White Sox (Nastrini) vs Brewers (Peralta): 6/2/24, 1:10pm

[willie key]

Freddy is just nonsense this year

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

2021 - 22nd in fWAR

2022 - injured

2023 - 29th in fWAR

2024 - 28th in fWAR

A top 30 SP is only mid-rotation if there were 10 teams in the MLB

Freddy's at least a #2 starter. Not a bonafide ace like a Burnes, but certainly more than "mid-rotation". 

[wiguy94]

Just now, edfunderburk said:

He looks like Tobias Myers today

It's one freaking game. If Contreras goes 0-5 at the plate today is he suddenly an average starting C?

[kevinisaname]

I thought Adames and Contreras had the day off?

[kevinisaname]

Ugh, why wasn't Turang running?

[82brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, wiguy94 said:

It's one freaking game. If Contreras goes 0-5 at the plate today is he suddenly an average starting C?

No, but he could probably use  day off.

[wiguy94]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

Freddy's at least a #2 starter. Not a bonafide ace, but certainly more than "mid-rotation". 

He's just not an ace. Lacks the consistency and inning eating to be an ace, but man people need to actually look at other MLB rotations if they think Freddy is a mid-rotation SP.

[BruisedCrew]

Should have been more concerned with Peralta than the lineup. 

[brewers888]

2 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

They did sign an innings eater.  He got hurt.

Junis? That was a signing I was not in favor of.

[edfunderburk]

3 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

They did sign an innings eater.  He got hurt.

Who are you referring to as an innings eater?

We signed several oft-injured pitchers 

[brewers888]

3 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

It's one freaking game. If Contreras goes 0-5 at the plate today is he suddenly an average starting C?

If its against the Phillies thats one thing but the last thing this team needs is a short start with the best team in the league next up.

[edfunderburk]

4 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

It's one freaking game. If Contreras goes 0-5 at the plate today is he suddenly an average starting C?

Have you watched Freddy all year?

He’s had as many poor games as good games. 

[brewers888]

Just shows how lucky we were to have a top three of Burnes-Woodruff-Freddy. Its a shame we did nothing to improve the lineup when we had a great rotation.

[82brewcrew82]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Freddy's at least a #2 starter. Not a bonafide ace like a Burnes, but certainly more than "mid-rotation". 

Is mid-rotation not a 2/3 type starter?

[brewers888]

Just now, edfunderburk said:

Have you watched Freddy all year?

He’s had as many poor games as good games. 

Freddy is a good pitcher but when its him and four bottom of the rotation arms we need him to be better.

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Is mid-rotation not a 2/3 type starter?

#2 AT LEAST. That's definitely more than mid-rotation. He's not a 3 starter. 

[yourout]

Wonder how many 3 games sweeps there are in the MLB in a normal season?

[brewers888]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

#2 AT LEAST. That's more than mid-rotation. 

He is not a number two on most playoff caliber teams. I still like Freddy but I liked him better when we had two better starters. Having him as our unquestioned ace with the rest of the rotation being 4s and 5s is not a great situation.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Freddy is not as consistent as elite aces. That's all. I'd put him in the next tier of guys, and that's great. As our number 3 starter, he was fantastic. As our number 1, he's a downgrade compared to what we are used to.

Long way to go today. 

 

 

[igor67]

I think this is a classic problem where people often think of an ace as a top 10-15 pitcher in the league. 

[brewers888]

Just now, yourout said:

Wonder how many 3 games sweeps there are in the MLB in a normal season?

Winning the series should always be the goal but you really want to sweep a team likely to lose 110 plus games.

[Oxy]

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[edfunderburk]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

He's not a 3 starter. 

He was last year & it fit him & the team much better than being a #1 starter in 2024

[wiguy94]

5 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Is mid-rotation not a 2/3 type starter?

Nobody calls a #2 SP mid rotation 

[82brewcrew82]

Just now, igor67 said:

I think this is a classic problem where people often think of an ace as a top 10-15 pitcher in the league. 

Because that is what an ace is.  Just because there are 30 teams doesn't mean there are 30 aces and that doesn't mean some teams don't have more than one ace.  Freddy is a good pitcher, no question.  I just believe he is an upper tier mid-rotation starter.  On team with a good rotation he'd be a 2/3.  That doesn't make him a bad pitcher.