White Sox (Nastrini) vs Brewers (Peralta): 6/2/24, 1:10pm

[edfunderburk]

1 minute ago, igor67 said:

I think this is a classic problem where people often think of an ace as a top 10-15 pitcher in the league. 

Are you suggesting otherwise?

Do you think each team’s #1 starter is an ace?

I believe there are probably only 15-18 aces MAX in the league & some teams have a couple of them (like we did last season)

[Brewcrew82]

6 minutes ago, brewers888 said:

He is not a number two on most playoff caliber teams. I still like Freddy but I liked him better when we had two better starters. Having him as our unquestioned ace with the rest of the rotation being 4s and 5s is not a great situation.

He was the number 2 most of last year when our pitching was the best in baseball. He's at minimum a top 25 pitcher which is right where you want a #2 to be. 

[igor67]

I don't have an opinion as much as mixing and matching the term ace and then using 1/2/3 terminology leads to versions of this discussion over and over.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Nastrini looks like a young guy with potential to me. Good stuff, inconsistent command. Being able to hit the bottom of the zone with fastballs is a good skill.

I wouldn't be surprised if he put up a quality start.

Well, Bauers needed that hit.

[edfunderburk]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

He was the number 2 most of last year when our pitching was the best in baseball. He's at minimum a top 25 pitcher which is right where you want a #2 to be. 

He’s not pitching as well this season as he did last season 

He is a good - not great - MLB pitcher

Depending on the team - he could be a 1, 2, or 3

Sadly, he’s not an ace on a team with mediocre starting pitching 

[trwi7]

18 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Who are you referring to as an innings eater?

We signed several oft-injured pitchers 

Miley

[kevinisaname]

Chourio bomb! Let's sweep these guys!

[Bulldogboy]

Jackson says let me play please.

[edfunderburk]

So happy for Jackson Chourio

He needed that as much as the Brewers did today

[igor67]

I guess Jackson just needed to see that AAA pitching!

[edfunderburk]

1 minute ago, trwi7 said:

Miley

I would categorize Miley as a player coach with veteran savvy - often injured & anything but an innings eater 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

First pitch, no-doubter with a great swing. Love to see that.

 

[yourout]

Nice inning. 

Get out the brissels

[willie key]

Is peralta even going to make it to five innings today

[yourout]

4 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

First pitch, no-doubter with a great swing. Love to see that.

 

That was one of his best swings I have seen. 

Very under control.

[yourout]

Just now, willie key said:

Is peralta even going to make it to five innings today

Maybe. But not much more.

[Brewcrew82]

11 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

He’s not pitching as well this season as he did last season 

He is a good - not great - MLB pitcher

Depending on the team - he could be a 1, 2, or 3

Sadly, he’s not an ace on a team with mediocre starting pitching 

What? He's pitching the same....

Freddy Peralta last season: 3.86 ERA/3.85 FIP/88 ERA-/30.9 K%/7.9 BB%

Freddy Peralta this season: 3.61 ERA/3.39 FIP/90 ERA-/32.5 K%/7.9 BB%

[82brewcrew82]

15 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

He was the number 2 most of last year when our pitching was the best in baseball. He's at minimum a top 25 pitcher which is right where you want a #2 to be. 

The rotation was much deeper last year top to bottom and the bullpen was crazy good, both contributing to that success.    Given a traditional five man rotation, 2 to 4 is the middle by definition.  Being an upper mid rotation pitcher, well, I don''t think we are saying anything all that different but whatever.

[Pugger]

What is the meaning behind the "eyeglasses" gesture the guys do after base hits?

[82brewcrew82]

Its fun to think about this offense if Jackson starts doing what we all know he can do.

[edfunderburk]

3 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

What? He's pitching the same....

Freddy Peralta last season: 3.86 ERA/3.85 FIP/88 ERA-/30.9 K%/7.9 BB%

Freddy Peralta this season: 3.61 ERA/3.39 FIP/90 ERA-/32.5 K%/7.9 BB%

Okay - that’s good to know

I think you’re helping confirm that he’s a mid-rotation pitcher 😉

I thought he was better last season but I was wrong 

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

What? He's pitching the same....If anything, he's been better. Coming into today:

Freddy Peralta last season: 3.86 ERA/3.85 FIP/30.9 K%/7.9 BB%

Freddy Peralta this season: 3.61 ERA/3.39 FIP 32.5 K%/7.9 BB%

 

When you factor in league adjusted stats it's pretty identical to last season, but he's pitching way better than he was at this point last season.

Freddy through 11 starts last year - 105 ERA-, 107 FIP-, 101 xFIP-

Freddy through 11 starts this year - 90 ERA, 86 FIP-, 80 xFIP-

[Jastro]

Freddy also was tipping his pitches for a period of time last year iirc

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

I largely agree with the critiques of the rotation. We know it isn't very good. Obviously, I'd rather have last year's rotation in a vacuum.

That said, I'd rather have this year's team. It isn't so much that I think the roster is better as I just prefer this brand of baseball. It's nice to watch guys who can hit. It's nice not to be terrified every defensive half inning. I'm having way more FUN this year than in a long time. Probably the most fun since 2018, when we were all about Yelich, Cain, and bullpen. That team is my favorite Brewer club of all time, even though I think the 2011 Crew was probably more talented overall. Hopefully this team manages to win a few more October games than those two.

[82brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

I largely agree with the critiques of the rotation. We know it isn't very good. Obviously, I'd rather have last year's rotation in a vacuum.

That said, I'd rather have this year's team. It isn't so much that I think the roster is better as I just prefer this brand of baseball. It's nice to watch guys who can hit. It's nice not to be terrified every defensive half inning. I'm having way more FUN this year than in a long time. Probably the most fun since 2018, when we were all about Yelich, Cain, and bullpen. That team is my favorite Brewer club of all time, even though I think the 2011 Crew was probably more talented overall. Hopefully this team manages to win a few more October games than those two.

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