Put your best offer out:

[Scooterfletcher]

Flaherty

Crochet

Fedde

Kopech

sevirino

Alonso

Canha

Just some names we may make offers for soon so figured…..Lets see what people are thinking for their Best offer on these guys

[Playing Catch]

This isn't what I would do, per se, but rather what I think it would take to get them...

Flaherty - (Lara, Wichrowski, and two teenagers)

Crochet - (Misiorowski, EBJ, Manuel Rodriguez, and a teenager)

Fedde - (Mike Boeve, Yujanyer Herrera, KC Hunt)

Kopech - (Rob Zastryzny, Tayden Hall)

Severino - (Yujanyer Herrera, Jose Anderson)

Alonso - (Cooper Pratt, Brett Wichrowski, Shane Smith)

Canha - (Ryan Birchard, Luis Pena)

[Madhawk23]

4 hours ago, Playing Catch said:

This isn't what I would do, per se, but rather what I think it would take to get them...

Flaherty - (Lara, Wichrowski, and two teenagers) - Not sure if I'd do this for just 2-3 months of Flaherty

Crochet - (Misiorowski, EBJ, Manuel Rodriguez, and a teenager) - It would be hard to stomach getting rid of Mis, but I might actually do this deal, considering that we'd still have two more years of Crochet after this season.  Something tells me though that we probably would have to substitute someone better in for EBJ, as I don't know how much value he has right now?  Might have to be more of a Mis, Boeve, M Rod and teenager package? 

Fedde - (Mike Boeve, Yujanyer Herrera, KC Hunt) - I don't think I do this deal. I know Fedde has been good so far this year, but his track record before this season has not been great.  Just feels like a lot to give up for a guy that could return to mediocrity after the trade.  

Kopech - (Rob Zastryzny, Tayden Hall) - Sign me up for this deal all day/everyday.  For that reason alone, I'm guessing the White Sox would ask for a better prospect than Hall coming back in return.  

Severino - (Yujanyer Herrera, Jose Anderson) - Boy, it would be hard to give up two really exciting teenagers for a guy like Severino.  Maybe one of these guys, but not sure I'd do both?  

Alonso - (Cooper Pratt, Brett Wichrowski, Shane Smith) - With Rhys, Bauers and Black - I don't think we're going to be interested here.  

Canha - (Ryan Birchard, Luis Pena) - I'm in love with Luis Pena, and I also don't know if we really need more OF's on this roster right now....so I'll say no to this deal.  

Added my thoughts in BOLD above.  

[Madhawk23]

Since we just saw him pitch well against us last night (not to mention, having a fantastic season thus far), how about Tyler Anderson.  What does everyone think it would take to get him (looks to be under control through next season).  How about:

• Either Mitchell or Sal
• Wichorowski
• Shane Smith

Is this too little on our end?  Too much?  Adding a guy like Anderson into our rotation the next 1.5 years here would be awfully enticing.  

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

Added my thoughts in BOLD above.  

I'm not trading Pratt and if I'm trading Misirowski, it'll be for a guy who is not just an ace, but who can pitch this whole season.

I like Crochet, but in 8 years since his Sr year, ~300 IP, 88 IP this year.

I like Crochet, but the Brewers are conservative with young arms. I just can't see that type of a trade for him. But, we'll see. 

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

Since we just saw him pitch well against us last night (not to mention, having a fantastic season thus far), how about Tyler Anderson.  What does everyone think it would take to get him (looks to be under control through next season).  How about:

• Either Mitchell or Sal
• Wichorowski
• Shane Smith

Is this too little on our end?  Too much?  Adding a guy like Anderson into our rotation the next 1.5 years here would be awfully enticing.  

I like Anderson...I don't know about that trade, I haven't watched Wichorowski, I've been busier the last few months than normal, so...I don't know how good he is. Seems like some on here are talking about him as a future #3 or even better. 

I like Sal a lot also. Guys like him, Turang, they're just winners. They do little things that may not show up in the box score or they have more value to us than I think a team like LAA would value them at. 

[wiguy94]

3 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

Since we just saw him pitch well against us last night (not to mention, having a fantastic season thus far), how about Tyler Anderson.  What does everyone think it would take to get him (looks to be under control through next season).  How about:

• Either Mitchell or Sal
• Wichorowski
• Shane Smith

Is this too little on our end?  Too much?  Adding a guy like Anderson into our rotation the next 1.5 years here would be awfully enticing.  

His peripherals are horrible. Hard pass. He looked good last night against a Brewers offense that has been stinking it up for over a month now. I don't understand your apprehension towards Fedde but then willing to give up Sal/Mitchell, Wichrowski, and Shane Smith for a 34 year old Tyler Anderson.

[brewers888]

This might be an unpopular opinion but I am not willing to pay a high price for any of those guys. Bauer would be cheap and is as good as any of these guys and we can sign him tomorrow. If we refuse to go in that direction and I don't know why we would be when we were in on Aroldis Champman last season then go with what we have or whatever we can get for someone like Wiemer and EBJ.

This organization has things going right for now and the future so why trade away really good prospects for short term gains. If Crochet had a longer track record as a starter I would consider a big offer for him but he has only been a starter this season so I definitely would not pay what it will cost to get him. 

 

[BrewerFan]

6 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

His peripherals are horrible. Hard pass. He looked good last night against a Brewers offense that has been stinking it up for over a month now. I don't understand your apprehension towards Fedde but then willing to give up Sal/Mitchell, Wichrowski, and Shane Smith for a 34 year old Tyler Anderson.

Yujanyer Herrera is a 20 year old with electric stuff, Boeve has thrived in AA a year after being drafted and Hunt is a...pretty damn interesting arm and Anderson has a stronger track record. 

Fedde was in Korea last year, 5+ERAs every other year. Anderson has an ERA in the last ~3 seasons overall and has been pretty damn solid and you're giving up less. That'd be my guess, but I don't know. Seems like a lot to give up for Anderson as well, but...I'm still a bit in the dark as to how good this Wichrowski is. I'm not giving up on Mitchell, but a toddler making a house with popsicle sticks has more structural integrity than Mitchell through his first couple years, so...that seems like a good reason to include him(though same could have been said for Molly at one point looking back). 

None of these guys really thrill me and we love our prospects. But I like a few of them. Anderson with our defense...would be alright. 

[Playing Catch]

I don't really like any of the "big" names on this year's FA list. Or at least, I don't like them enough to part with the prospect capital I believe it would require to land them. I see the Brewers adding a couple of pretty boring SPs, using a few prospects that are running out of options, or are coming up on minor league free agency.

[wiguy94]

25 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Yujanyer Herrera is a 20 year old with electric stuff, Boeve has thrived in AA a year after being drafted and Hunt is a...pretty damn interesting arm and Anderson has a stronger track record. 

Fedde was in Korea last year, 5+ERAs every other year. Anderson has an ERA in the last ~3 seasons overall and has been pretty damn solid and you're giving up less. That'd be my guess, but I don't know. Seems like a lot to give up for Anderson as well, but...I'm still a bit in the dark as to how good this Wichrowski is. I'm not giving up on Mitchell, but a toddler making a house with popsicle sticks has more structural integrity than Mitchell through his first couple years, so...that seems like a good reason to include him(though same could have been said for Molly at one point looking back). 

None of these guys really thrill me and we love our prospects. But I like a few of them. Anderson with our defense...would be alright. 

In what world is giving up Sal/Mitchell, Wichrowski, and Shane Smith giving up less than Herrera, Hunt, and Boeve. Saying Herrera has electric stuff makes me think you don’t know who he is. KC Hunt is at best comparable to a guy like Shane Smith so if you think KC Hunt is pretty damn interesting I don’t know how you wouldn’t think the same of Smith who is 3 months older and pitching extremely well in AA.
 

Anderson’s track record isn’t good. He’s had two good seasons in his career and one was in 2016. He's the biggest FIP overperformer among qualified pitchers, his xFIP and SIERA are both over 5, he’s making 2 times as much money as Fedde. Giving up a haul for him just for him to regress in Milwaukee while being our third most expensive player on the roster would be such a bad move.

 

[BrewerFan]

31 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

In what world is giving up Sal/Mitchell, Wichrowski, and Shane Smith giving up less than Herrera, Hunt, and Boeve. Saying Herrera has electric stuff makes me think you don’t know who he is.

In the world where this is an opinion there sport. But yeah, it's WILD to like the kid who's 20, throwing 97 striking out 14+ per 9!

 

LOL...dude, when did you become the Police of who can favor what trades or prospects? Call your ass down!

33 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Anderson’s track record isn’t good.

Oh...no, you're right. Fedde is basically Bob Gibson though, right?

But walk me through this, he's had 2 good seasons(1 more than Fedde has had) and one of them was in 2016.

Cool. So then the 4 WAR this year and the 3.9 two years ago....which one of those was a good season? He's had just the two and one was 2016, so...one of these isn't good.

 

Stop gatekeeping what packages we're allowed to like...

[wiguy94]

21 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

In the world where this is an opinion there sport. But yeah, it's WILD to like the kid who's 20, throwing 97 striking out 14+ per 9!

 

LOL...dude, when did you become the Police of who can favor what trades or prospects? Call your ass down!

Oh...no, you're right. Fedde is basically Bob Gibson though, right?

But walk me through this, he's had 2 good seasons(1 more than Fedde has had) and one of them was in 2016.

Cool. So then the 4 WAR this year and the 3.9 two years ago....which one of those was a good season? He's had just the two and one was 2016, so...one of these isn't good.

 

Stop gatekeeping what packages we're allowed to like...

Now I’m really convinced you have zero clue who Herrera is saying he throws 97 lmaooooooooooooo

[BrewerFan]

28 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Now I’m really convinced you have zero clue who Herrera is saying he throws 97 lmaooooooooooooo

Quote

Herrera’s fastball sits in the 93-95 range and has reached up to 97. He can use it up in the zone, or run it in on the hands of right-handers at times. Metrics have been hard to come by for the pitch, but it seems to have a decent shape to it, with the previously mentioned mid-90s velocity.

I'm gonna take @Smichaelis9word for it...and ya still need to relax sport.

 

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

I'm gonna take @Smichaelis9word for it...and ya still need to relax sport.

 

Reached up to 97 doesn't mean he throws 97. Wichrowski touched 99/100 in the spring. That doesn't mean he throws 99/100. 

[Team Canada]

Both of you can calm down the typical internet outrage and condescension. Just enjoy having a debate about ideas.

[Spencer Michaelis]

7 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

I'm gonna take @Smichaelis9word for it...and ya still need to relax sport.

 

Yeah, I obviously think Yujanyer is a pretty fun arm, but the 97 is a rare occurrence. I'd probably describe him as throwing 93-95. Obviously that's somewhat a case of semantics, but I do think if you're describing a pitcher, you probably want to use his average velocity. Or you can say "he's been up to 97" or something.

It's a small thing and really not too big of a deal, but I do think it can be a little misleading to describe a guy who's touched 97 as "throwing 97".

FTR, even though nobody asked, I'm not sure I'd make that Fedde trade if I had it in front of me, though I would consider it. I don't think I'd have much interest at all in the Anderson deal. I don't hate the idea of Anderson on this team, having the Brewers defense behind him. But I'd only do it if it stays relatively cheap in terms of the prospect capital. 

[BrewerFan]

Just now, Smichaelis9 said:

Yeah, I obviously think Yujanyer is a pretty fun arm, but the 97 is a rare occurrence. I'd probably describe him as throwing 93-95. Obviously that's somewhat a case of semantics, but I do think if you're describing a pitcher, you probably want to use his average velocity. Or you can say "he's been up to 97" or something.

It's a small thing and really not too big of a deal, but I do think it can be a little misleading to describe a guy who's touched 97 as "throwing 97".

FTR, even though nobody asked, I'm not sure I'd make that Fedde trade if I had it in front of me, though I would consider it. I don't think I'd have much interest at all in the Anderson deal. I don't hate the idea of Anderson on this team, having the Brewers defense behind him. But I'd only do it if it stays relatively cheap in terms of the prospect capital. 

Yeah...that's fair. He's also 20 and there's room to grow. The point was...he's a 20-year-old with a projectable arm and I can understand why someone wouldn't like that deal...and to be honest, it's just more annoying when people are running around gatekeeping trade proposal as if ANYTHING said on this board is going to make even the slightest bit of difference in the real world. 

 

Up to 97 mean he can throw 97. And he's again, 20 and has a big league frame. But it's really not that important, I'd agree on that. 

 

[jay87shot]

Flaherty- Brett Wichrowski and Juan Baez.

Someone will give a lot more than this

Crochet- Tyler Black, Brett Wichrowski, Juan Baez, Alexander Cornielle, we get a ptbnl based on how many innings Crochet pitches and injury concerns.

I love Crochet but would want some form of safety valve if he gets hurt.

Fedde- Luis Lara, Harold Chirino, and Jadher Arienamo

Sox get a higher end prospect and 2 extra pieces.

Kopech- Harold Chirino and Chris Roller/Brewer Hicklen, Sox get a good arm and OF'er to give a chance this year.

Sevirino- Juan Baez and Mark Manfredi. Two solid young talents for 1/2 year of Severino

Alonso- Weimer and Aaron Ashby, not super interested in him

Canha- nothing/pass rather let Black play.

[homer]

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Move on, please.

[MilwaukeeBeers]

Yujanyer reminds me a lot of Luis Ortiz before he ate his way out of the system. 

[Scooterfletcher]

I sort of feel like this years squad shouldn’t move anybody and have more of a “see what happens “ playoffs.   But if we can get Severino for a couple 40 man roster crunches forthcoming, that’d be my aim…

 

Wiemer and something for Severino and something makes sense to me.

[bigred]

19 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Reached up to 97 doesn't mean he throws 97. Wichrowski touched 99/100 in the spring. That doesn't mean he throws 

Since he's already touched that before,  it also means he's still capable of throwing 97mph now, too.