Dodgers (Flaherty) vs Brewers (Myers): 8/15/24, 1:10pm

[Brewcrew82]

Okay, Mitchell actually hit that one on a rope. Unbelievable.

[Sixtolezcano]

1 minute ago, Marc Newfield of Dreams said:

Pat Murphy is not good at this.

But they’re in first place!

[Brewcrew82]

What a terrible end to that AB by Contreras. 

[Nola Beery]

"high cheese" = "sucker pitch"

 

[Bulldogboy]

Contreras basically said I want to be out. Please and thank you. 

[Brian]

2 minutes ago, Marc Newfield of Dreams said:

Pat Murphy is not good at this.

I'm sure he pulled him because he had 93 pitches. Last thing we need is another arm injury.

[Brewcrew82]

Kopech dominating upon joining the Dodgers was the most predictable outcome ever. 

[Nola Beery]

Let's get Peguero the win! (Then we can all forget about all the inherited runners he lets score.)  

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

Just now, Brian said:

I'm sure he pulled him because he had 93 pitches. Last thing we need is another arm injury.

It's not the decision to pull Myers. It's the decision to bring Peguero on in a situation where he has failed all year.

[Sixtolezcano]

32 minutes ago, willie key said:

The most talented skilled player of all time.  

Babe Ruth has something to say about that.

[ClearWaterWI]

1, 2, 3…terrible bottom of the 6th for the Brewers. 

[Nola Beery]

Is this the last of Elvis Peguero?

 

[Brewcrew82]

Peguero is the least inspiring pitcher with a near sub 3 ERA ever.

[Sixtolezcano]

4 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Contreras basically said I want to be out. Please and thank you. 

Billy can’t lay off those pitches above his head.

[wiguy94]

Pat Murphy when it comes to putting a RP in leverage spots against RHH whose numbers are the following against RHH - .262/.373/.374, 17% K-rate, 14% BB-rate, 1.62 WHIP.

[brewfanmn]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Here comes Peguero with runners on. What could go wrong?

Not that I would read into these numbers at all, but he's actually been quite good this season with runners on base, and better than with the bases empty.

Empty: 18% K, 11% BB, 1.4 HR/9, 5.44 FIP, 4.50 xFIP (.293 BABIP)

Men on: 22% K, 12% BB, 0.3 HR/9, 3.25 FIP, 3.82 xFIP (.329 BABIP)

This seems like a pretty silly narrative.

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, Marc Newfield of Dreams said:

It's not the decision to pull Myers. It's the decision to bring Peguero on in a situation where he has failed all year.

Yupp. If you're pitching path involves Peguero potentially coming in mid 6th inning just let him start the inning.

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, brewfanmn said:

Not that I would read into these numbers at all, but he's actually been quite good this season with runners on base, and better than with the bases empty.

Empty: 18% K, 11% BB, 1.4 HR/9, 5.44 FIP, 4.50 xFIP (.293 BABIP)

Men on: 22% K, 12% BB, 0.3 HR/9, 3.25 FIP, 3.82 xFIP (.329 BABIP)

This seems like a pretty silly narrative.

Part of it is also bringing in Peguero specifically to face a RHP when he struggles against RHP. 

ERA/FIP is also misleading here because he's not responsible for the baserunners who do score. 

[wiguy94]

Just now, brewfanmn said:

Not that I would read into these numbers at all, but he's actually been quite good this season with runners on base, and better than with the bases empty.

Empty: 18% K, 11% BB, 1.4 HR/9, 5.44 FIP, 4.50 xFIP (.293 BABIP)

Men on: 22% K, 12% BB, 0.3 HR/9, 3.25 FIP, 3.82 xFIP (.329 BABIP)

This seems like a pretty silly narrative.

It's not a silly narrative. Peguero has allowed 64% of inherited runners to score this season and has been terrible against RHH this season yet Murphy continues to bring him in to face RHH with runners on base.

[brewfanmn]

6 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Part of it is also bringing in Peguero specifically to face a RHP when he struggles against RHP. 

ERA/FIP is also misleading here because he's not responsible for the baserunners who do score. 

Yeah, the righty thing carries a lot more weight with me than LOB%, which is widely known to be extremely fluky from year to year. The splits have been true for Peguero's whole career at least.

ERA would definitely be misleading which is why I didn't show it. FIP would not be misleading because it's only looking at the batters he faced.

[willie key]

This would really suck to lose this 4-3

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, brewfanmn said:

Yeah, the righty thing carries a lot more weight with me than LOB%, which is widely known to be extremely fluky from year to year.

ERA would definitely be misleading which is why I didn't show it. FIP would not be misleading because it's only looking at the batters he faced.

FIP doesn't take into account inherited runners same as ERA. 

Peguero allows 64% of inherited runners to score. 

[Brian]

Here we go this needs to be our inning.

[Brewcrew82]

Gary Sanchez has had some really great ABs lately.

[HarryDoyle]

12 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Peguero is the least inspiring pitcher with a near sub 3 ERA ever.

Because he drives up the ERAs of pitchers he relieves.