Brewers roster moves

[markedman5]

 

[markedman5]

 

[wildcat2237]

Good riddance on Bauers. 

I was a bit bummed re Rob Zas. I figured Hoby would be gone and Jared Koenig and Zas would take that spot. 

I guess the roster crunch is pretty serious. 

[patrickgpe]

Wilson was decent and Zas had his moments. It’s going to be an interesting offseason. I think the Rhys decision is really hurting what can be done

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Well, there's no roster crunch now!  40 man roster now at 36.  Surprised they did not include Milner in the cuts.  Maybe they are working a trade.  Hard to believe they have room for Ashby, Koenig, Hudson, and Milner (assuming DL is in the rotation).

[liveforoctober]

I'm assuming there is a big financial crunch until the Adames situation is resolved. They just offered him and he will turn it down ... but the Brewers can't really assign that money elsewhere until he is gone. So I think we are in a bit of a holding pattern to spend anything until that happens, hopefully sooner than later.

Until then, need to scrape a few dollars together to sign a few options if they come up ... which might explain a few of these recent moves.

[Team Canada]

4 hours ago, liveforoctober said:

but the Brewers can't really assign that money elsewhere until he is gone

That doesn't make sense to me at all. Everyone knows he's not going to accept the QO.

[SeaBass]

10 hours ago, Team Canada said:

That doesn't make sense to me at all. Everyone knows he's not going to accept the QO.

Admittedly I don't know about any finer nuances of the QO rules (I did a brief review on MLB's website) but if a player that has a QO on the table were to get injured in a car accident to the point he felt that would affect his market he could end up accepting the offer. Can't rule out "life" happening during the time between the offer being made and the last date for the player to decline, which I believe is around Nov 19th.

As far as I'm aware the team can't rescind the QO once it's been offered. I could be wrong.

But yes, for all intents and purposes Adames is going to decline the offer.

[brewmann04]

hoby is the next to fall 

[brewmann04]

I  will be stunned if Willy signs back here.

[young guns]

1 hour ago, SeaBass said:

Admittedly I don't know about any finer nuances of the QO rules (I did a brief review on MLB's website) but if a player that has a QO on the table were to get injured in a car accident to the point he felt that would affect his market he could end up accepting the offer. Can't rule out "life" happening during the time between the offer being made and the last date for the player to decline, which I believe is around Nov 19th.

As far as I'm aware the team can't rescind the QO once it's been offered. I could be wrong.

But yes, for all intents and purposes Adames is going to decline the offer.

That is an interesting point which I wondered about myself.  What would happen if something life altering happened before he officially declines.  Are there any protections is place in those instances or is the team outta luck?

[CheezWizHed]

12 minutes ago, young guns said:

That is an interesting point which I wondered about myself.  What would happen if something life altering happened before he officially declines.  Are there any protections is place in those instances or is the team outta luck?

I've never seen anything concrete about insurance the club has for player injuries, but I'd assume they had some protection that way.

[SeaBass]

21 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

I've never seen anything concrete about insurance the club has for player injuries, but I'd assume they had some protection that way.

But I don't think you can take out insurance on a player that isn't currently on your team. He is technically a free agent, isn't he?

Maybe they can since there's a binding offer out there. I don't think insurance providers would say no honestly. They have to weather less than 20 days of a person's clean health.

[jay87shot]

None of these cuts are big deals to me, I would have thought we could have gotten something for Wilson, Zas, Rae, or Herget. Even if it was some cash considerations or international money. My guess is that the market is overflowing with similar guys from around the league so giving up something doesn't make a lot of sense. 

[CheezWizHed]

11 hours ago, SeaBass said:

But I don't think you can take out insurance on a player that isn't currently on your team. He is technically a free agent, isn't he?

Maybe they can since there's a binding offer out there. I don't think insurance providers would say no honestly. They have to weather less than 20 days of a person's clean health.

I'm no expert, but the QO is a legally binding contract on the Brewers' part (i.e. they can't rescind it anymore) and I'd assume they could be insured for loss on it... though even if they can doesn't mean they do. 

[SeaBass]

8 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

I'm no expert, but the QO is a legally binding contract on the Brewers' part (i.e. they can't rescind it anymore) and I'd assume they could be insured for loss on it... though even if they can doesn't mean they do. 

Yeah, I pretty much got there on my own halfway through writing that reply. I would think insurance companies would be more than happy to collect a premium payment on that wager and only have to sweat out a 3 week waiting period for a player that is expected to decline the QO.

[jay87shot]

10 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

I'm no expert, but the QO is a legally binding contract on the Brewers' part (i.e. they can't rescind it anymore) and I'd assume they could be insured for loss on it... though even if they can doesn't mean they do. 

We can't rescind it but we don't have to pay anything unless he accpets, with the 99.9% chance he declines the QO it really shouldn't be playing into our finances. 

[CheezWizHed]

2 hours ago, jay87shot said:

We can't rescind it but we don't have to pay anything unless he accpets, with the 99.9% chance he declines the QO it really shouldn't be playing into our finances. 

Yes, but that wasn't the point. The question was whether or not we could get insurance on it.  If a company has a liability (even a short term one or low chance one), I believe it could be insured.