Under the Radar (3B, 2B, SS) Targets

[nate82]

56 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

My GOD.....this has to go down as one of the worst free agent signings/contracts in MLB history, right?  Maybe THE worst?  The guy hit 34 bombs in 2019 (his last year in Washington).  In the first FIVE years of his $240M contract with the Angels, he's hit a total of 22!  I mean, it's remarkable how bad that contract his been for the Angels.  Their owner might has well have taken $240M in cash and thrown it right into a blazing fire.  

Since 2021 he has only played a total of 205 games and has only 863 PA’s over that span.  For a full season it is about 600 PA’s.  That gives the Angels about a season and two months over four seasons worth of PA’s.

[snoogans8056]

On 2/10/2025 at 7:11 PM, markedman5 said:

I saw that Keith Law was pretty down on Boeve’s ability to play 3rd base…..

I had thought he was ok to average there but if Law is right that kind of changes the outlook for him.

Boeve always kind of struck me as a Lyle Overbay. That's fine at 1B.

[NOMAAM]

Still have hopes for Wilken.  Hopefully it’s a mental block from taking that pitch off the face.  Pratt is also already in AA.  Would be nice to add DeJong though.  To bridge the gap.

[yoshii8]

Down to Dejong, Iglesias or a trade. I think both guys would be an upgrade to Monasterio and Dunn.

[brewmann04]

the Brewers need to add Go get De Jong  

[Scooterfletcher]

1 hour ago, yoshii8 said:

Down to Dejong, Iglesias or a trade. I think both guys would be an upgrade to Monasterio and Dunn.

I would add Brett Baty via trade and Justin Turner in more of a 3b/1b/dh role.

[Underachiever]

I’m not a De Jong fan. How do you view him vs what Josh Donaldson offered two years ago? I was a little excited about that signing. 

[Lloyd330]

Do nothing and just move on . No point to adding any of the remaining FA. There is a reason why they are still out there. 

[brewerfan82]

At this point, I think you see what you've got in Ortiz/Turang/Durbin as the starters (and keep an eye on how the advanced prospects progress), but I'd love to see a veteran with defensive flexibility come in to back them up, mix and match vs. lefties/righties, and provide insurance if anyone completely flops. If there's a clear hole at the deadline, but the team is looking strong otherwise, use the money not spent during the offseason to make a move.

But for now, I think our old buddy Luis Urias might actually be a good fit. He's also one of the youngest free agents going into his age 28 season.

vs. RHP 2022-24:

vs. LHP 2022-24:

vs. RHP 2024:

vs. LHP 2024:

[brewerfan82]

For a little more context/conversation fodder, here are the splits for the remaining FAs that FanGraphs has listed for 2B/3B/SS:

vs. RHP 2022-24:

vs. LHP 2022-24:

[MVP2110]

2 hours ago, brewerfan82 said:

For a little more context/conversation fodder, here are the splits for the remaining FAs that FanGraphs has listed for 2B/3B/SS:

vs. RHP 2022-24:

vs. LHP 2022-24:

Luis Urias would make some sense as a utility hitter. He's had an OPS+ above 100 3 of the last 4 years and he's a capable defender at 2b & 3b

[Austin Tatious]

Instead of DeJong I hope we can swing a trade for somebody. 

[bigred]

On 2/12/2025 at 2:07 PM, snoogans8056 said:

Boeve always kind of struck me as a Lyle Overbay. That's fine at 1B.

Now that you say that, comparing him to Overbay is probably pretty accurate. 

[bigred]

20 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I would add Brett Baty via trade and Justin Turner in more of a 3b/1b/dh role.

I completely forgot Turner is still available. I'd be fine with him on a 1 yr deal, but even at his age, he'll probably want more than MA is willing to pay. 

[bigred]

On 2/13/2025 at 1:33 PM, Underachiever said:

I’m not a De Jong fan. How do you view him vs what Josh Donaldson offered two years ago? I was a little excited about that signing. 

What He'd "offer" would be being much better than Monasterio or Dunn. That's all we'd need him to be. 

[brewerfan82]

43 minutes ago, bigred said:

What He'd "offer" he would be being much better than Monasterio or Dunn. That's all we'd need him to be. 

I think he'd be an upgrade, but it's debatable that he'd be much better than those guys.

DeJong 2025 ZiPS projection:

Dunn 2025 ZiPS projection:

Monasterio 2025 ZiPS projection:

2022-24:

[bigred]

21 minutes ago, brewerfan82 said:

I think he'd be an upgrade, but it's debatable that he'd be much better than those guys.

DeJong 2025 ZiPS projection:

Dunn 2025 ZiPS projection:

Monasterio 2025 ZiPS projection:

2022-24:

DeJong has a much more proven track record than both of them. So that alone, would make me more comfortable, than having the other 2 platooning back and forth. 

[brewerfan82]

5 minutes ago, bigred said:

DeJong has a much more proven track record than both of them. So that alone, would make me more comfortable, than having the other 2 platooning back and forth. 

Definitely, but I think at this point we're hoping these three take the reigns anyways. If he comes cheap, happy to have him over what we have now for the veteran leadership and experience, but I'm not losing sleep over missing out on a 31 year old DeJong that can't get on base at a .280 clip and is barely, if at all, an upgrade over younger players already in the system.

Joey Ortiz 2025 ZiPS projection:

Brice Turang 2025 ZiPS projection:

Caleb Durbin 2025 ZiPS projection:

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

6 minutes ago, brewerfan82 said:

Definitely, but I think at this point we're hoping these three take the reigns anyways. If he comes cheap, happy to have him over what we have now for the veteran leadership and experience, but I'm not losing sleep over missing out on a 31 year old DeJong that can't get on base at a .280 clip and is barely, if at all, an upgrade over younger players already in the system.

Joey Ortiz 2025 ZiPS projection:

Brice Turang 2025 ZiPS projection:

Caleb Durbin 2025 ZiPS projection:

I can tell you right now that this board would very quickly grow weary of DeJong's huge K% and inability to get on base. Yes, he hits dingers at a pretty solid rate, especially for a middle infielder. But I think it is pretty obvious at this point that the design of this roster is keyed not only on run prevention defensively, but also on speed and getting on base, two aspects of DeJong's game that are pretty non-existent at this point in his career.

[bigred]

9 hours ago, brewerfan82 said:

Definitely, but I think at this point we're hoping these three take the reigns anyways. If he comes cheap, happy to have him over what we have now for the veteran leadership and experience, but I'm not losing sleep over missing out on a 31 year old DeJong that can't get on base at a .280 clip and is barely, if at all, an upgrade over younger players already in the system.

Joey Ortiz 2025 ZiPS projection:

Brice Turang 2025 ZiPS projection:

Caleb Durbin 2025 ZiPS projection:

Agreed. Definitely shouldn't overpay him, but his veteran presence and power would help a lot. 

[wallus]

It's not so much that the above guys are available, it's the fact that so many of them are available at this point. You would think they would sign pretty soon.

[tmwiese55]

1 hour ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

I can tell you right now that this board would very quickly grow weary of DeJong's huge K% and inability to get on base. Yes, he hits dingers at a pretty solid rate, especially for a middle infielder. But I think it is pretty obvious at this point that the design of this roster is keyed not only on run prevention defensively, but also on speed and getting on base, two aspects of DeJong's game that are pretty non-existent at this point in his career.

Generally true.  But batting 8/9 in the lineup for near league min and doing that is or at least should be a lot more tolerable. Especially as he pops out an occasional 2-3 run HR to basically win a game a few times a month.   I guess I'm just saying if I'm going to have a poor/weak hitter in one spot I at least hope you get occasionally lucky with the power. As opposed to the other 3 options right now who seem to be very light on power while also being a low chance they'll be all that great at BA/OBP either.    I still hope they find a trade instead but if we do nothing else I take Dejong as best we can do.  

IMO much different than what Hoskins did for a chunk this year in the middle or a year or two back when Adames was doing it in the 4/5 hole.  8/9 in the order for almost no money, well it is what it is.  In years past we had 2-3 bad hitters at the bottom of the order and still won.

[MVP2110]

I'd pass on DeJong, he hasn't had an OPS+ over 100 since 2018. The only guy that truly intruiges me is Urias. The rest are just fodder and I'd rather see what the young guys have instead. If Dunn/Durbin can't handle it then they can trade for another IF at the deadline

[bigred]

6 hours ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

I can tell you right now that this board would very quickly grow weary of DeJong's huge K% and inability to get on base. Yes, he hits dingers at a pretty solid rate, especially for a middle infielder. But I think it is pretty obvious at this point that the design of this roster is keyed not only on run prevention defensively, but also on speed and getting on base, two aspects of DeJong's game that are pretty non-existent at this point in his career.

Hitting dingers and knocking in RBI's is exactly what we need to replace what we lost from last year. Sign him asap please! 

[Scooterfletcher]

1 hour ago, bigred said:

Hitting dingers and knocking in RBI's is exactly what we need to replace what we lost from last year. Sign him asap please! 

Why would Baty for someone like Tyler Woessener and EBJ be a deal people here would be upset with?