Packers 2025 offseason

[GAME05]

I keep thinking about how the Packers were a good running team last year yet were ranked 23rd in run blocking. And now we're going in with a healthy Morgan and a 2nd Rounder who had a terrific run-blocking grade. Jenkins at C can't hurt, either. Maybe it's a ho-hum thing but it feels like improving the run blocking to even middle of the pack could mean a significant improvement to the offense overall.

[CheezWizHed]

On 5/4/2025 at 8:19 AM, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Was reading about Nick Chubb and a clickhole led me to Emmanuel Wilson...had no idea he ran for 500 yards last year at nearly 5 a pop. 

Yeah, he was no slouch last year. I think he benefited from people backing off run D a bit when Jacobs left, but Wilson did a great job.  I don't recall any cheap runs/games that padded his states either. 

Many people talk about how Lloyd will impact the team, but I don't think it is a gimmie that he gets a tone of backup reps. Catching the ball might be where Lloyd has the biggest differentiator from Jacobs, Wilson, and Brooks.

[BrewerFan]

On 5/5/2025 at 12:41 PM, CheezWizHed said:

Yeah, he was no slouch last year. I think he benefited from people backing off run D a bit when Jacobs left, but Wilson did a great job.  I don't recall any cheap runs/games that padded his states either. 

Many people talk about how Lloyd will impact the team, but I don't think it is a gimmie that he gets a tone of backup reps. Catching the ball might be where Lloyd has the biggest differentiator from Jacobs, Wilson, and Brooks.

I think Lloyd is going to have a bigger role than you may be anticipating(assuming he can handle it). This was a 3rd rd RB who many believed was the best back in the draft. I'm glad we had 2 3rd rd picks as I'm not confident Hopper bucks the trend, but I think Lloyd does. And some of it should be as a 3rd down back...but also just in our overall run game.

MLF has run the zone blocking scheme since he got into the league. It's what he came up in, it's what he ran in Tennessee(if you saw his Bussin' with the Boys pod you'll hear him talk about it)...but last year, without the type of back who can get to the edge, they ran mostly gap. 

And that...as I've said since we cut Jones, that takes away a MASSIVE portion of the playbook. It was a great job by MLF to adjust to his personnel, but he also spoke pretty glowingly about getting Lloyd back last year...before the appendectomy put him back on the shelf when he was set to come back and the Packers lost an appeal to be able to activate him. 

He spoke at length about the "dynamic ability" and how he adds a different element to the team. Again, that offense HAS...and it's certainly changed, but it has been built off that outside zone movement. Get everyone moving one way, and you either give the back the ball and he hits his landmark and reads the cutback lanes OR you pull it out and you have the LBs flowing the opposite way as you have guys on 3-4 different levels coming across. It also set up those deep shots to...Watson, hopefully it'll do the same with Golden, or you can just dump it down to Kraft. 

It's just that type of back adds just another layer. Just as Golden can change the way defenses have to rotate over to help protect against his deep speed(as did/does Watson if/when he gets healthy). 

 

I think Wilson just takes snaps from Jacobs. Jacobs getting that many carries probably isn't ideal and Wilson is a really good back with quick feet and he's big. If you can get Lloyd 12-15 snaps a game, Wilson 10-12 and Jacobs 25-30...on average, it can keep them fresh. 

Same with Musgraves....who has certainly dealt with the injury bug, but he has a different type of skill set as compared to Kraft. I'm excited about all the things they'll be able to do with this team. 

 

Though NONE are more important than 
1-CATCHING THE BALL-We were the 2nd worst last year among WRs and it was even worse weighted for impact. 3rd and 5 and you drop a 6 yard dig or 3rd down and you drop a ball in the endzone. 
https://www.fanduel.com/research/nfl-teams-with-the-most-dropped-passes-this-season?utm_source=chatgpt.com

2023-We weren't great, but we were closer to average and they weren't as consequential. I think the key player on this team will be Wicks. A little corny, but he got the nickname "3rd down and Wicks," as a rookie and then fell apart. 
2-Getting Josh Myers out of here, Elgton Jenkins. Basically replacing Myers with Banks. Love gave up a LOT of pressures up the middle.

3-Competition. Everywhere you look there is competition. Milt Hendrickson was talking about how they viewed Oliver as potential Off-Ball LB. They wanted to start him out on the edge as a pass rush specialist, but they think he can ALSO lineup as LB and play the run. Obviously a STs stud. And you go back and watch him and he looked REALLY good at reading and hitting the hole hard. 

 

Just feels like we don't need ONE guy to step up, we need to play better as a unit. Fewer weak links(Myers) and then just avoid mistakes and that should help Love and Love needs to also just not fall into bad habits and play better himself. 

We HAVE seen him play at an elite level and we've seen him play at a good level. Top 2-3? Top 5 the last 10 weeks of '23. 
And then....top ~12-14 in 2024. 

 

A lot resting on his shoulders this year. All the pieces, a great offensive mind. The defense seems like it should be good enough to be a top 10 D and Rodgers only had that 2-3 times in GB...if that. 

 

Gonna be fun. Already working on my 53 man...WAAAY before we even have an idea how anyone else looks!

 

[CheezWizHed]

1 hour ago, BrewerFan said:

I think Lloyd is going to have a bigger role than you may be anticipating(assuming he can handle it). This was a 3rd rd RB who many believed was the best back in the draft. I'm glad we had 2 3rd rd picks as I'm not confident Hopper bucks the trend, but I think Lloyd does. And some of it should be as a 3rd down back...but also just in our overall run game.

Just to be clear, I was comparing Lloyd's impact in terms of "team improvement" from 2024.  Lloyd might take snaps away from Wilson, but will he have a bigger impact than '24 Wilson did?  

I don't see Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd, and Brooks putting up significantly more rushing yards than Jacobs, Wilson, and Brooks did last year. We don't plan to rush more times than we did last year and it would be challenging to be more efficient than last year (maybe Brooks, but he didn't have many rushes anyway).  Lloyd might win more snaps, but Wilson was very efficient with his snaps last year so having a bigger impact will be a challenge.

The passing game could be one where Lloyd has a bigger impact. We didn't have much of a check-down or RB screen production last year. 

[Sixtolezcano]

GB offense ran an average of 62 plays per game in 2024.

Your estimate of the number of plays going to Lloyd, Wilson and Jacobs = 47-57 plays per game.

Remaining number of plays going to the rest of the offensive playmakers (7 to 8 of Reed, Doubs, Wicks, Golden, Williams, Kraft, Musgrave, Sims, Heath and Melton PLUS Love) = 5-15 plays per game.

OK

5 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I think Lloyd is going to have a bigger role than you may be anticipating(assuming he can handle it). This was a 3rd rd RB who many believed was the best back in the draft. I'm glad we had 2 3rd rd picks as I'm not confident Hopper bucks the trend, but I think Lloyd does. And some of it should be as a 3rd down back...but also just in our overall run game.

MLF has run the zone blocking scheme since he got into the league. It's what he came up in, it's what he ran in Tennessee(if you saw his Bussin' with the Boys pod you'll hear him talk about it)...but last year, without the type of back who can get to the edge, they ran mostly gap. 

And that...as I've said since we cut Jones, that takes away a MASSIVE portion of the playbook. It was a great job by MLF to adjust to his personnel, but he also spoke pretty glowingly about getting Lloyd back last year...before the appendectomy put him back on the shelf when he was set to come back and the Packers lost an appeal to be able to activate him. 

He spoke at length about the "dynamic ability" and how he adds a different element to the team. Again, that offense HAS...and it's certainly changed, but it has been built off that outside zone movement. Get everyone moving one way, and you either give the back the ball and he hits his landmark and reads the cutback lanes OR you pull it out and you have the LBs flowing the opposite way as you have guys on 3-4 different levels coming across. It also set up those deep shots to...Watson, hopefully it'll do the same with Golden, or you can just dump it down to Kraft. 

It's just that type of back adds just another layer. Just as Golden can change the way defenses have to rotate over to help protect against his deep speed(as did/does Watson if/when he gets healthy). 

 

I think Wilson just takes snaps from Jacobs. Jacobs getting that many carries probably isn't ideal and Wilson is a really good back with quick feet and he's big. If you can get Lloyd 12-15 snaps a game, Wilson 10-12 and Jacobs 25-30...on average, it can keep them fresh. 

Same with Musgraves....who has certainly dealt with the injury bug, but he has a different type of skill set as compared to Kraft. I'm excited about all the things they'll be able to do with this team. 

 

Though NONE are more important than 
1-CATCHING THE BALL-We were the 2nd worst last year among WRs and it was even worse weighted for impact. 3rd and 5 and you drop a 6 yard dig or 3rd down and you drop a ball in the endzone. 
https://www.fanduel.com/research/nfl-teams-with-the-most-dropped-passes-this-season?utm_source=chatgpt.com

2023-We weren't great, but we were closer to average and they weren't as consequential. I think the key player on this team will be Wicks. A little corny, but he got the nickname "3rd down and Wicks," as a rookie and then fell apart. 
2-Getting Josh Myers out of here, Elgton Jenkins. Basically replacing Myers with Banks. Love gave up a LOT of pressures up the middle.

3-Competition. Everywhere you look there is competition. Milt Hendrickson was talking about how they viewed Oliver as potential Off-Ball LB. They wanted to start him out on the edge as a pass rush specialist, but they think he can ALSO lineup as LB and play the run. Obviously a STs stud. And you go back and watch him and he looked REALLY good at reading and hitting the hole hard. 

 

Just feels like we don't need ONE guy to step up, we need to play better as a unit. Fewer weak links(Myers) and then just avoid mistakes and that should help Love and Love needs to also just not fall into bad habits and play better himself. 

We HAVE seen him play at an elite level and we've seen him play at a good level. Top 2-3? Top 5 the last 10 weeks of '23. 
And then....top ~12-14 in 2024. 

 

A lot resting on his shoulders this year. All the pieces, a great offensive mind. The defense seems like it should be good enough to be a top 10 D and Rodgers only had that 2-3 times in GB...if that. 

 

Gonna be fun. Already working on my 53 man...WAAAY before we even have an idea how anyone else looks!

 

 

[CheezWizHed]

41 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

GB offense ran an average of 62 plays per game in 2024.

Your estimate of the number of plays going to Lloyd, Wilson and Jacobs = 47-57 plays per game.

Remaining number of plays going to the rest of the offensive playmakers (7 to 8 of Reed, Doubs, Wicks, Golden, Williams, Kraft, Musgrave, Sims, Heath and Melton PLUS Love) = 5-15 plays per game.

OK

 

I'm guessing "snaps" doesn't mean "carries".  You need RBs in the game during passing plays too. 

Just for comparison: Ave Carries and Pass Targets per game in 2024:

• Jacobs 17.7, 2.5
• Wilson 6.0, 0.8
• Brooks 2.4, 0.9

[Sixtolezcano]

2 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

I'm guessing "snaps" doesn't mean "carries".  You need RBs in the game during passing plays too. 

Agreed, I was including carries and passes to RBs. however only 5-15 plays to the list of receivers mentioned doesn’t seem like a whole lot if you include incomplete passes as well.

[CheezWizHed]

1 minute ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Agreed, I was including carries and passes to RBs. however only 5-15 plays to the list of receivers mentioned doesn’t seem like a whole lot if you include incomplete passes as well.

BrewerFan said "snaps" so I'm guessing that includes those RBs in the game on passing plays that go to WR and TEs also (i.e pass block or outlet routes).  They need to be in the game for that too. 

Those snaps I listed where the RB was the focus of the play came up to 30 snaps per game, so just under 50% of the 62 average. 

[docduany]

Sounds like Jaire & the Packers have kissed and made up.

[CheezWizHed]

On 5/7/2025 at 7:49 PM, docduany said:

Sounds like Jaire & the Packers have kissed and made up.

If he remains happy and healthy (two big "IFs"), that would be the biggest offseason addition we could've made.

[OldHeidelberg]

11 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

If he remains happy and healthy (two big "IFs"), that would be the biggest offseason addition we could've made.

Yes, when you look at the WR's in our division a healthy Jaire could easily be the difference between a division title or yet another 7 seed. I would think converting 4.25 million of salary to $250k active roster bonuses would be a fair compromise but it wouldn't surprise me if that packers want double that number. Up until now the recent talk of him returning has been mostly speculation but Peter Schragers report on his conversation with MLF seems to give it more legs. Sounds like he will be back. 

[Brian]

Packers Star Elgton Jenkins Involved In Strip Club Dispute, Cops Called To Mitigate.

https://www.tmz.com/2025/05/10/packers-elgton-jenkins-involved-in-strip-club-dispute-cops/

 

[BrewerFan]

On 5/7/2025 at 2:03 PM, Sixtolezcano said:

GB offense ran an average of 62 plays per game in 2024.

Your estimate of the number of plays going to Lloyd, Wilson and Jacobs = 47-57 plays per game.

Remaining number of plays going to the rest of the offensive playmakers (7 to 8 of Reed, Doubs, Wicks, Golden, Williams, Kraft, Musgrave, Sims, Heath and Melton PLUS Love) = 5-15 plays per game.

OK

 

My estimate was of absolutely no such thing.

My estimate was how many SNAPS they were going to play;

On 5/7/2025 at 2:03 PM, Sixtolezcano said:

I think Wilson just takes snaps from Jacobs. Jacobs getting that many carries probably isn't ideal and Wilson is a really good back with quick feet and he's big. If you can get Lloyd 12-15 snaps a game, Wilson 10-12 and Jacobs 25-30...on average, it can keep them fresh. 

Josh Jacobs played 721 snaps last year. He...did not have 721 carries. 

Snaps a game is not the same as touches a game. In fact, I expect you'll see some formations with Savion Williams and Josh Jacobs in the backfield together. Safe to say they won't both touch the ball that play, right?

Or Lloyd and Jacobs. 

In fact, you'll definitely have plays where you have 3 WRs, 1 TD and 1 RB or 12 formation which...is very possibly going to be MLF's preferred formation on early downs in his players are healthy. 

That'd mean that you'd have...hypothetically, Jacobs, Kraft, Musgrave, Wicks and Golden out there. 

Obviously nobody would expect all of them to get a touch on that play.  

 

On 5/7/2025 at 2:53 PM, Sixtolezcano said:

Agreed, I was including carries and passes to RBs. however only 5-15 plays to the list of receivers mentioned doesn’t seem like a whole lot if you include incomplete passes as well.

I'm very confused here. Why would you only have 5-15 plays to the list of receivers mentioned(or just ALL Packers receivers, TEs as a whole)? How about play-action passes? You'd need a RB on the field for that, no?

Even including empty sets...which the Packers ran just 31 of last year, I don't think I can recall a single one in which there was no RB on the field. What they'd often do...and they did this a BIT more when they had Aaron Jones, there was still a RB on the field.  

 

That...doesn't really make sense. Again, Josh Jacobs...who I don't think will be asked to shoulder quite as much of the load last year. He played 721 spans last year. He had...a little over 300 careers. 319 I believe as well as another nearly 40 touches via the passing game. I do not believe that was by design given LaFleur's comments;

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Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur has expressed a strong interest in incorporating running back MarShawn Lloyd alongside veteran Josh Jacobs in the team's offensive strategy. LaFleur envisions a "platoon" system, aiming to utilize multiple running backs to maintain player freshness and exploit diverse skill sets.

So some plays they'll be on the field at the same time. 

Others they'll just be rotating to keep guys healthy down the stretch run, something Jacobs had quite a few more touches last year than any year in his career outside of 2022.

2024-358 touches
2022-393 touches

303 touches as a 22 year old was the next most. I'm guessing while he'd be the 4 minute back and still get the bulk of the touches, they'd want to limit the number of touches.

 

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Despite a rookie season limited by injuries, Lloyd has shown promise during minicamp sessions, impressing coaches with his agility and versatility. His performance suggests he could quickly ascend the depth chart, potentially securing the No. 2 running back position behind Jacobs. 

The Packers' approach reflects a broader offensive philosophy under LaFleur, emphasizing the use of multiple running backs to adapt to various game situations and to keep defenses off balance. By integrating Lloyd's dynamic abilities with Jacobs' established prowess, Green Bay aims to enhance its offensive versatility and effectiveness.

 

So...again, the idea would be to keep everyone fresh. 

 

On 5/7/2025 at 2:03 PM, Sixtolezcano said:

Your estimate of the number of plays going to Lloyd, Wilson and Jacobs = 47-57 plays per game.

No. I do not think the Packers will run or throw the ball to the RB 57 times a game.

That Eagles who run with their QB and had the best RB in the NFL in a historic year didn't run the ball 47-57 times a game(including receptions by their WR). 

 

Take how many snaps the Packers run on offense, and adjust slightly for each back and that's how many plays I believe they'll be on the field. Not getting the ball. 

[BrewerFan]

On 5/7/2025 at 10:19 AM, CheezWizHed said:

Just to be clear, I was comparing Lloyd's impact in terms of "team improvement" from 2024.  Lloyd might take snaps away from Wilson, but will he have a bigger impact than '24 Wilson did?  

I don't see Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd, and Brooks putting up significantly more rushing yards than Jacobs, Wilson, and Brooks did last year. We don't plan to rush more times than we did last year and it would be challenging to be more efficient than last year (maybe Brooks, but he didn't have many rushes anyway).  Lloyd might win more snaps, but Wilson was very efficient with his snaps last year so having a bigger impact will be a challenge.

The passing game could be one where Lloyd has a bigger impact. We didn't have much of a check-down or RB screen production last year. 

Well...I'm not just looking at it as total numbers of yards, I'm looking at the way the Backs styles mix and how efficient, not just how many yards they run for.

The  offensive line could look a LOT different. 

LT-Walker was a very poor run block. I think they'll try Belton out at OT and RG. Morgan will do the same. I think if Walker gets beaten out, they might just move Tom over to LT and Belton COULD win the job at RT or RG. 

LG-Jenkins fell off last year, but Brooks is a very good run blocking LG.

C-Myers out, Jenkins in should be a huge upgrade.

RG-Sean Rhyan was a terrible pass blocker the year before, but then kinda flipped last year. He was very good at pass blocking but the 86th ranked run blocker for a Guard. 

RT-He's good.

So we upgraded at LG, C and RT is already very good.
You have last years 1st rd pick and this years 2nd rd pick who will be competing for the two weakest spots on the OL, LT, RG.

So our OL wasn't a very good run blocking OL last year and they've made investments in the position.

On top of THAT, John Fitzpatrick, another Georgia Bulldog is a 6'7, 265LB TE who is a stud in run blocking.

But more than that, I think all three backs are a little different. Jacobs is a battering ram, but for context, his average yards before contact last year was worse than it was during his time in Oakland. He was getting hit after 2 yards(2.2 in Oakland...which isn't a big difference, but one of the big talking points was that our OL would be so much better than Oakland's).

And again, they ran almost entirely gap scheme last year because they didn't really have someone capable of running that outside zone. Jones, when he was here and we ran that outside zone, he was able to get the edge and he was going for 3.4-3.5 yards before contact and averaging 5+ Yards Per Carry.

I'm not comparing Jacobs to Jones, there's a use for both of them and Jacobs just softening the defense up is extremely valuable, he was a workhorse...but again, it's that core staple of the run game, that outside zone that sets up so much of the offense.

So Jacobs is the workhorse...obviously. Wilson...IMO, has really good feet and underrated vision and speed, but the key is Lloyd. I think he can be that guy who can come in and be the change of pace. He's 5'8, 220, similar size to Jones but a bit bigger. More explosive athletically(testing anyway) and more elusive.

I could see it looking more like the 49ers when they had a number of RBs and they would run Deebo at RB at times, a role Savion Williams should be able to handle...of occasion at 6'4 230(maybe Patterson is a better comp as a rookie while he hopefully develops into a more well rounded WR).

They were a really good run team last year but I think they can get more efficient. Both of the players they drafted, most importantly Belton, he ran a hybrid scheme at NC State where they ran a lot of zone blocking, but also gap.

It doesn't happen in a vacuum though. I think it's a given our passing game is better next year. It has to be if we're going to more of a threat and competitive vs the best teams. Wicks more than doubled his drop rate, Reed's went from 3% to 12%, Doubs doubled, Kraft went from 0 to 7.1%.

So that's why I think our run game should be better. Less men in the box, we WON'T be the worst in the league in drops(I'd hope) and both of those build off each other.

It starts up front though and we've invested in our OL, we've invested in RB, WR, TE and just paid our QB. So whatever it takes to keep the chains moving as that was a weakness as well.

 

Tampa Bay last year was a more efficient team in the run game and they converted over 50% of their 3rd down whereas the Packers were well behind him at 4.7 YPC(they were at 5.2 YPC) and we converted 39% of our 3rd downs. That is a team without a running QB or a Barkley type RB, so...that's the team I'm using as an example....

[BrewerFan]

On 5/8/2025 at 8:50 PM, CheezWizHed said:

If he remains happy and healthy (two big "IFs"), that would be the biggest offseason addition we could've made.

Getting a happy and healthy Jaire back would be...akin to the Packers getting back a healthy and dominant Brandon Woodruff. It doesn't just impact him, it would slide everyone down a bit and take pressure off so many other players.

On another note, anyone hear even rumors that Jaire was upset this off-season? This seemed like it was almost exclusively the Packers who were not pleased with the arangement.

Gute made the comments, pretty clearly expressing frustration in Jaire(we later heard from Demovsky more about it, though I don't know how much he hears vs guesses about).

There were rumros there was a trade worked out, but Jaire wouldn't take a pay cut(makes sense). And the same was true for coming back to GB.

But though all of this, he was shown working out with X and Jordan Love was talking about him campaigning for him to be back...and he just seems like a bit of an odd dude, maybe he won't play through injury like others will, but he always seemed like a pretty good clubhouse guy. Even when he made himself the captain in Carolina, it seemed innocent(ridiculous) but...fairly innocent. 'I think coach forgot I was from Carolina, so I just went out there.'

 

Perhaps I'm missing something though. I'm sure he wasn't pleased to hear the Packers wanted to get rid of him but weren't willing to just let the guy leave as a FA so he could sign on somewhere else, wanted him to take a cut, publicly questioned his toughness and made the whole thing drag out...and despite that, far as I know, he's been...pretty mature about it.

 

***This also makes me think they HAD to have missed out on some CB targets. A bad FA class, I thought a great draft class, but nobody tested. I'm guessing you'll see every CB who can at the combine testing next year. At least the 40 and then their vertical and one of the agility. Johnson and Morrison were projected top 10 picks...

 

[HarryDoyle]

Packers at Bears Saturday December 20, meaning since they play on the Saturday before Christmas they probably will play on Christmas Day again.

[HarryDoyle]

Packers host the Eagles week 10 on Monday night. And after all the talk of playing the Steelers in Dublin, it will actually be the Vikings instead.

[endaround]

Gute is just so bad with the personnel part of the job. "Hey we'll sign a workmanlike guard to a large contract and move our pro-bowl guard to center without discussing it with him!" 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45146047/sources-elgton-jenkins-skipping-packers-workouts-contract

[Fear The Chorizo]

44 minutes ago, endaround said:

Gute is just so bad with the personnel part of the job. "Hey we'll sign a workmanlike guard to a large contract and move our pro-bowl guard to center without discussing it with him!" 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45146047/sources-elgton-jenkins-skipping-packers-workouts-contract

The article mentions how frequently they talked with Jenkins about the position change.  This is about Jenkins' agent seeing cap space that can be thrown his clients way sooner than what his existing contract would get it to him and trying to get something done before training camp opens.

[OldHeidelberg]

On 5/13/2025 at 5:32 AM, HarryDoyle said:

Packers at Bears Saturday December 20, meaning since they play on the Saturday before Christmas they probably will play on Christmas Day again.

Nope, but we are in Detroit on Thanksgiving. The opening 5 day home stint with Lions and Wash should tell us a lot about the team. 

[patrickgpe]

My only gripe is that a bye before thanksgiving would have been nice. Other than that its nice to have national exposure and they have to play the games that have been assigned to them, so the order doesn't matter to me. 

Since the Lions play the Sunday before Thanksgiving also, the point above is kind of moot though. 

[CheezWizHed]

14 hours ago, endaround said:

Gute is just so bad with the personnel part of the job. "Hey we'll sign a workmanlike guard to a large contract and move our pro-bowl guard to center without discussing it with him!" 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45146047/sources-elgton-jenkins-skipping-packers-workouts-contract

Quite literally in the article you listed: "I think he's open to it," Stenavich said. "The conversations that we've had with him, yeah, he's got a lot of experience there and he was open to it, excited about it. So, ready to go."

Everything I've read, this is more about next year's cap number which is higher than all OL except three LTs.  Of course, nothing from Jenkins himself yet... 

1 hour ago, OldHeidelberg said:

Nope, but we are in Detroit on Thanksgiving. The opening 5 day home stint with Lions and Wash should tell us a lot about the team. 

They have one of the easiest first half schedules, but that is going to be a challenging first two games.  I do like that it gets a bit easier so that offense can gel.  The WR usage evolution should be interesting to watch from game 1 to game 17.  Who moves up and who moves down?

A couple other interesting tidbits not discussed much here:

• Jaire posted on Facebook "Back like I never left" and a few other 'positive Packer' posts with pictures (including one with him and MLF).  But nothing in the news media.  And yes, it looks like a legit FB account. 
• Hafley has discussed using more 3-4 fronts this year than last.  I do think our personnel fits that front better. Oliver and Moss fit better as 3-4 OLBs.  Walker and Cooper as MLBs.  LVN and Barryn can shift inside during obvious passing downs. 

 

[CheezWizHed]

Packer's release promo for their schedule reveal started to approach the level of the infamous Brewer's Dumb and Dumber video.  Not nearly as funny, but still showing a fun side of the team. 

 

[GAME05]

We should just eliminate Divisions and every NFC team plays the other NFC teams once per year. With a bye week there would only be one additional game to throw in either for a rivalry team or local AFC team. Far fewer issues with different strength-of-schedules that way plus no more sub-par teams making the playoffs due to being in a bad Division. Plus you add in what used to be a fun element of MLB where the SuperBowl teams are unfamiliar with each other, as well as the potential of differently evolving NFC and AFC playstyles.

[young guns]

Hate the week 5 bye.  I feel like byes should be more centralized in the schedule, and to be really fair the whole division should have the same bye week.  Could do something like byes rotate 1 nfc and 1 afc division each week of 8, 9, 10, and 11.

 

At least the home and away games are spread pretty evenly with no 3 game road trips.