Red Sox at Brewers; Tuesday, May 27 @ 6:40 p.m.: Aaron Civale (9.00 ERA, 10.79 FIP) vs. TBD

[folly412]

.500 for the first time since 19-19 on May 7.  Now for a real streak!

[ClearWaterWI]

From Zero to Hero…way to go Yelly!

[Bulldogboy]

Ashby pitching well is newsworthy 

[BruisedCrew]

15 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Where do they rank if you take out the high scoring games for all teams?

I’m not going to try to figure that out but most low scoring teams don’t have games of 14 and 17 runs. 

The more important thing is that those games were all early in the season and over the ,last 5 weeks the offense has been undeniably one of the worst in MLB. 

[LouisEly]

4 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I’m not going to try to figure that out but most low scoring teams don’t have games of 14 and 17 runs. 

The more important thing is that those games were all early in the season and over the ,last 6 weeks the offense has been undeniably one of the worst in MLB. 

The A's are right ahead of the Brewers.  They've had four games with 10 or more runs.  (The Brewers have three.)

The Mets are right ahead of the A's.  They had a 19-run game against WAS.

The Giants are right ahead of the Mets.  They had a 14-run game and four other 10-run games.

The Mariners are right ahead of the Giants.  They had a 14-run game and a 13-run game.

The Nationals are right behind the Brewers.  They've had five games with 10 or more runs.  (The Brewers have three).

[Playing Catch]

9 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I’m not going to try to figure that out but most low scoring teams don’t have games of 14 and 17 runs. 

The more important thing is that those games were all early in the season and over the ,last 5 weeks the offense has been undeniably one of the worst in MLB. 

This conversation is giving me deja vu from last year.

[Playing Catch]

That was a great win.

Anyone else see Murphy's post-game presser on Brewers Live?

Someone needs to give him a different term for warming up relievers without putting them in the game. Holy cow.

[edfunderburk]

2 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Anyone else see Murphy's post-game presser on Brewers Live? Someone needs to give him a different term for warming up relievers without putting them in the game. Holy cow.

I completely agree but wasn’t sure how to reference that topic on this board 😂

[Playing Catch]

2 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I completely agree but wasn’t sure how to reference that topic on this board 😂

I mean, he said it like 3 separate times!! 

Just hilarious.

[Jim French Stepstool]

I hope all of you who complain about them never having "breather" type wins are happy. A nice, comfortable  four-run spread.

Have to admit, with Koenig in the pen, Alexander as a mopper-upper, Hall & Ashby coming back & Hudson trying to get right at AAA, I didn't see the sense in picking up Rob Z. But so far so good; he's been terrific.

[Oxy]

If it was raining would Murph still use the same term?

[Oxy]

3 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I hope all of you who complain about them never having "breather" type wins are happy. A nice, comfortable  four-run spread.

Have to admit, with Koenig in the pen, Alexander as a mopper-upper, Hall & Ashby coming back & Hudson trying to get right at AAA, I didn't see the sense in picking up Rob Z. But so far so good; he's been terrific.

I agree...but just from reading between the tea leaves it seems like Rob Z might give to the bullpen what Willy Adames gave to the dugout last year, which could make it an invaluable re-acquisition.

[sveumrules]

34 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

The more important thing is that those games were all early in the season and over the ,last 5 weeks the offense has been undeniably one of the worst in MLB. 

They scored 5-2-5-7-7-6 runs over their last six games in April. 32 runs over a six game stretch is 5.33 R/G, well above the MLB average of 4.31 R/G. The offense didn't really turn putrid until May so coming up on four weeks.

These things tend to go up and down throughout the season. In April they scored the 4th most runs per game and went 16 W - 11 L. So far in May they've scored the 2nd fewest runs per game and still managed to go 12 W - 13 L to this point, pretty remarkable really.

I don't think anyone believes the Brewers have a Top Four offense in baseball, though plenty seem to believe they do in fact have a Bottom Two offense in baseball. 

I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle so I'd expect them to perform better in aggregate over the remaining 106 games than they have over the last 25.

Then again, if we go back to May 18th (first game after the four shutouts in five games) they have scored 5-5-5-4-8-5-1-6-3-5 runs for 47 runs in their last ten games during which they've gone 7 W - 3 L . . . so maybe it's already begun and the true putrid stretch was really only like 2.5 weeks from May 1st until 17th (& the four March games of course).

[bm1090]

9 hits in the last 5 games for Yelich. Average up 26 points in 5 games. Easier to do when you’re sitting at .184 but maybe he’s found something.

[SomewhereInTime]

2 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

I’m not going to try to figure that out but most low scoring teams don’t have games of 14 and 17 runs. 

The more important thing is that those games were all early in the season and over the ,last 5 weeks the offense has been undeniably one of the worst in MLB. 

It was a rhetorical question.  Many teams have outliers.  I watched the red sox the other day score 13 runs in the bottom of the 8th.  I think at least 7 runs off a position player.  It all averages out.

[wiguy94]

3 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Believe it or not, the Brewers are in the top half of the league in runs scored.  It's a league-wide issue.

Our perspective is warped because the Cubs are #1 in runs/game and it's not even close.

I think the perspective is more so warped because the Brewers actual hitting is more like a bottom 6 offense in baseball. Their 87 wRC+ (after tonight) is 25th in MLB and well below league average. It's not an enjoyable team to watch at the plate. They don't hit for power, they don't hit for average, they aren't great at getting on base. They don't hit the ball hard or barrel it. 30th in Avg EV and barrel rate. 28th in hard hit rate. 27th in xwOBA as a team. The only thing they do at an above average rate offensively is run the bases. Even runs per game they are below the league mean runs per game which shows that there's a big talent drop off from the teams at the top of the league.

[HarryDoyle]

I knew all along Yeli would come through in the end!!!

[StearnsFTW]

11 hours ago, LouisEly said:

The A's are right ahead of the Brewers.  They've had four games with 10 or more runs.  (The Brewers have three.)

The Mets are right ahead of the A's.  They had a 19-run game against WAS.

The Giants are right ahead of the Mets.  They had a 14-run game and four other 10-run games.

The Mariners are right ahead of the Giants.  They had a 14-run game and a 13-run game.

The Nationals are right behind the Brewers.  They've had five games with 10 or more runs.  (The Brewers have three).

It's almost as if he's TRYING to be negative.

[BruisedCrew]

8 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

It was a rhetorical question.  Many teams have outliers.  I watched the red sox the other day score 13 runs in the bottom of the 8th.  I think at least 7 runs off a position player.  It all averages out.

Of course I know that almost all teams have occasional outlier scoring outbursts, and that all teams go through hot and cold stretches. But the Brewers having outbursts of 11, 14, and 17 runs in their first 24 games had an outsized impact on their runs per game average. 

Through those 24 games they were tied for third in MLB with 125 runs (5.2 per game). But their average in the other 21 of those 24 games was just 3.95 runs per game which was probably a much more accurate reflection of the offense. I doubt if many other teams had their RPG impacted that much by 3 games. It's noy just the number of games scoring 10 runs or more. It's scoring 12 runs more than 10 runs per game.

Of course the impact of those games gets diluted as more games are played. And I recognize that the offense in the last 5 weeks has had a truly putrid stretch along with periods of mere mediocrity. So, I agree that the offense will probably fall somewhere between the elite levels of the first 3 weeks and the horrific levels of the last 5.

But ,if the goal is for the team to be better than slightly below average, I don't think this offense is going to cut it. Maybe the slightly elevated run production in the last ten days is a sign of a turnaroud.  Or maybe it's a reflection of facing some of the worst teams in MLB.

[hawing]

Five days late, but my observation on this game and how it ended:

Remember the early April 2018 game when STL hit back to back home runs to lead off the game and Yelich and Braun hit back to back home runs to tie and then win it?

The vibes in the park after this May 27 game reminded me immediately of the vibes that night.  (That's good.)