Mets at Brewers; Saturday, August 9 @ 6:10 p.m.: Tobias Myers (4.30 ERA) vs. TBD

[Joseph Zarr]

2 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

In fairness to the BF community, do you think a majority of posters are reasonable? I feel like we’ve gotten better as this season has progressed.

It is understandably frustrating to be constrained by making the playoffs but rarely having a championship caliber roster. This year feels different. In any case, what the Brewers have achieved in recent years id remarkable.

Well I don't equate complaining in game threads to anything, really. We all get emotional and over-reactive in games. I know I do. I am more talking expressly to the ongoing tired narrative literally every off-season and every Trade Deadline. We are abundantly obviously in the Golden Era of Brewers baseball and the vast majority of fans act like petulant children because the Brewers don't spend like the a different Market en lieu of embracing and appreciating what we very much do have with this Brewers organization: a group of really really awesome people. Murphy has said this on numerous occasions. We see it in real time. THAT deserves to be celebrated - and consistently so while we have it. Everything else is just noise. Anyhow, this is merely my opinion, of course. But, I was amazed after watching him in this interview I legitimately found myself mentally preparing for the off-season of negativity!😅

[Frisbee Slider]

1 minute ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I was amazed after watching him in this interview I legitimately found myself mentally preparing for the off-season of negativity!

Excellent points. And yes, there are plenty of fans that will never understand why we don’t purchase a ‘needle mover’

The Brewers payroll may never be similar to the Dodgers. Some of the frustration is likely at ‘the system’ that restricts how much the Brewers can spend in comparison to other markets. 

If Milwaukee wins a championship, it probably goes a long way to satisfying fans. All the same, today is the best day in history to be a Brewers fan.

[gregmag]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Well I don't equate complaining in game threads to anything, really. We all get emotional and over-reactive in games. I know I do. I am more talking expressly to the ongoing tired narrative literally every off-season and every Trade Deadline. We are abundantly obviously in the Golden Era of Brewers baseball and the vast majority of fans act like petulant children because the Brewers don't spend like the a different Market en lieu of embracing and appreciating what we very much do have with this Brewers organization: a group of really really awesome people. Murphy has said this on numerous occasions. We see it in real time. THAT deserves to be celebrated - and consistently so while we have it. Everything else is just noise. Anyhow, this is merely my opinion, of course. But, I was amazed after watching him in this interview I legitimately found myself mentally preparing for the off-season of negativity!😅

I’m fully on board with your annoyance at this narrative, but where are you getting “vast majority”?  I’d say the offseason-deadline kvetchers are a loud minority. Of course, there are a lot more people who reasonably say “I don’t agree with this move” or “I wish we had shored up that position,” but I don’t get the sense you’re talking about those more measured criticisms.

[Joseph Zarr]

14 minutes ago, gregmag said:

I’m fully on board with your annoyance at this narrative, but where are you getting “vast majority”?  I’d say the offseason-deadline kvetchers are a loud minority. Of course, there are a lot more people who reasonably say “I don’t agree with this move” or “I wish we had shored up that position,” but I don’t get the sense you’re talking about those more measured criticisms.

I want to be clear: I'm not referring to anything on our BF forums. I routinely see such comments on twitter - saw them repeatedly in the early part of this season and all this past off-season. - and I admit that completely flavors my thinking. Now, I don't post or comment on twitter I just use it for access to post links for my ML reports. But when I see the hive mind and it  includes complaints from bigger accounts from other Wisco teams - Frank Madden does it; Aaron Nagler most definitely does it; Andy Herman does it etc.. Now, twitter is very much a virtual reality. And I am alcoved in my farm valley so certainly don't have a pulse on the greater state of Wisconsin any longer. BUT, I am pretty sure Spencer sees this negativity routinely taking questions for the BF pod. We've joked about it before, at least and I'm not saying he thinks what I think here. From my vantage point, the only thing unique about the present state of things, and holy heck is it unique, quelling this dialogue is the Brewers are playing the best baseball in all the MLB.

Anywho, I don't really want to belabor this any longer. Big game today. That's all that matters. I apologize for side tracking the thread. Let's hope Tobes has the goods.. 

[duewizard]

1 hour ago, Joseph Zarr said:

 It legitimately never ceases to amaze me how much people love to complain

Agreed. Honestly the whole trade deadline business drove me away from the site for a while. One would think the team was 30-60

[JCREW]

36 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

...what we very much do have with this Brewers organization: a group of really really awesome people. Murphy has said this on numerous occasions. We see it in real time. THAT deserves to be celebrated - and consistently so while we have it. 

Good people who are good to each other and work hard... It's the new moneyball market inefficiency. That might also be true beyond baseball...

[Joseph Zarr]

4 minutes ago, JCREW said:

Good people who are good to each other and work hard... It's the new moneyball market inefficiency. That might also be true beyond baseball...

I certainly hope so.

[Frisbee Slider]

7 minutes ago, JCREW said:

Good people who are good to each other and work hard... It's the new moneyball market inefficiency. That might also be true beyond baseball...

Harder for big markets to replicate, I think

[JCREW]

1 minute ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Harder for big markets to replicate, I think

Not to stray too far from baseball, but I was talking with a few guys who had recently retired. They both worked for part of their careers in small, family-owned businesses, and for large, NYSE-traded megacorporations. 

Both noted how the smaller organizations did a much better job of finding good people and committing to those people, while the megacorps were just driven by the quarterly earnings report at the expense of people. 

I don't know that the Brewers and Dodgers are as different as a small business and a megacorporation, but having good people probably helps MKE draw in a few extra fans at the margins, where the Dodgers will always have the casual millions of Angelinos who will throw money at tickets, regardless of the makeup of the team. 

[Frisbee Slider]

Less media and fan pressure in Milwaukee. I assume New York is less patient with underperformance.

[BruisedCrew]

25 minutes ago, duewizard said:

Agreed. Honestly the whole trade deadline business drove me away from the site for a while. One would think the team was 30-60

If the team was 30-60 nobody would care about the trade deadline.

But when you see other playoff contenders beefing up their rosters it’s frustrating to see the Brewers largely standing pat. 

Maybe Miller coming off the IL can provide some help, but I think it is totally legitimate to be disappointed that the Brewers couldn’t beef up the left side of the infield, even if it’s with a veteran utility player. 

I guess we’ll see how the team holds up through the upcoming 19 games in 18 days stretch. A little more depth might have helped. 

[Frisbee Slider]

2 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

But when you see other playoff contenders beefing up their rosters it’s frustrating to see the Brewers largely standing pat. 

Most of the higher profile additions from other teams seem to have not yet made a difference 🤷‍♂️

 

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Most of the higher profile additions from other teams seem to have not yet made a difference 🤷‍♂️

 

As is often the case, which is why I hate trading top prospects for rentals.

[Bulldogboy]

Shelby Miller has had a very strange career arc. This being his third time as a Brewer here's hoping that he is ready to make an impact this time. We could use him for sure.

[HarryDoyle]

Myers is already sweating like a pig.

[adambr2]

1 hour ago, BruisedCrew said:

If the team was 30-60 nobody would care about the trade deadline.

But when you see other playoff contenders beefing up their rosters it’s frustrating to see the Brewers largely standing pat. 

Maybe Miller coming off the IL can provide some help, but I think it is totally legitimate to be disappointed that the Brewers couldn’t beef up the left side of the infield, even if it’s with a veteran utility player. 

I guess we’ll see how the team holds up through the upcoming 19 games in 18 days stretch. A little more depth might have helped. 

Who? Seems like we did what almost every team does, a minor move here and a minor move there. The team who made the biggest move was Seattle and they got squat out of it so far.

[jason21nl]

I feel like Contreras is trying to pull everything.  

[Bulldogboy]

Alonso is a monster. Dangerous cat.

[folly412]

Tobias pulling a Houser.  

[kevinisaname]

What's the puke counter at? They showed one, but I thought they said he puked more.

[kevinisaname]

Tobias is not looking so great in the 2nd.

[HarryDoyle]

Myers needs to put his sweat drenched jersey on again.

[adambr2]

Just now, kevinisaname said:

Tobias is not looking so great in the 2nd.

Not great. Another poor umpire with a tight zone isn’t helping.

[willie key]

This game could be over here

[kevinisaname]

God, they're talking about how terrible the Mets have been constantly. Stop trying to jinx them, lol.