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Don't expect this to be a real active thread this year, but I thought I'd make it for in-season moves. Trade deadline, maybe a PS signing... a trade rumor(unlikely we'd trade more picks, but possible). 

Clearly the Packers are not very motivated to win now... so don't expect any big moves!


But seriously, Malik Willis. The Bengals have apparently inquired about him. I think he's just about the ideal backup for the Packers at this point. Mobile, been in the system a full year now, can help you get by a couple games with his legs. He's not a starter caliber QB IMO, but... the Bengals are desperate with Burrow out.

I don't think he'd actually get the Bengals there, but they're kinda all in on this season as well, Trey Hendrickson has a 1 year deal, then he's a FA. 9-8 could be good enough to make the playoffs in the AFC, but the most optimistic you could be, Burrows misses 10 games and I think 3 are winnable. 

 

Anyway, with all that's hanging on this season, would you rather have a 3rd rd pick (hypothetically) or a more known commodity to go with this suffocating defense and great run game?

 

Otherwise, what would it take to trade him?

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6 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Don't expect this to be a real active thread this year, but I thought I'd make it for in-season moves. Trade deadline, maybe a PS signing... a trade rumor(unlikely we'd trade more picks, but possible). 

Clearly the Packers are not very motivated to win now... so don't expect any big moves!


But seriously, Malik Willis. The Bengals have apparently inquired about him. I think he's just about the ideal backup for the Packers at this point. Mobile, been in the system a full year now, can help you get by a couple games with his legs. He's not a starter caliber QB IMO, but... the Bengals are desperate with Burrow out.

I don't think he'd actually get the Bengals there, but they're kinda all in on this season as well, Trey Hendrickson has a 1 year deal, then he's a FA. 9-8 could be good enough to make the playoffs in the AFC, but the most optimistic you could be, Burrows misses 10 games and I think 3 are winnable. 

 

Anyway, with all that's hanging on this season, would you rather have a 3rd rd pick (hypothetically) or a more known commodity to go with this suffocating defense and great run game?

 

Otherwise, what would it take to trade him?

It would probably take a 2nd rounder for the Packers to give him up and I don't see the Bengals doing that. Maybe if the Packers feel good about Clayton Tune they would take a 3rd but I doubt it. Willis has a lot of value for a SB contender.

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Willis screams career backup. It's very possible some team try to make him a starter, but I really don't see that going well for them. Any athlete in his shoes would want to play, but there's something to be said for carving out a long career as a backup QB. 

I don't think anything is worth it on the Packers side. He's a great fill-in for a concussion or a few weeks. He could be the difference between retaining HFA or slipping into a WC.

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With the quality of the run game in general and the defense combined with the 17 game season. You need to hold onto the competent back-up QB unless it's a crazy draft pick offer. 

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2 hours ago, GAME05 said:

I'd be all for a trade but is Willis really that much of an upgrade over Jake Browning?

No, probably not... though, he can move and I don't know how mobile Browning is(I don't think I can remember one Browning game since Washington played Alabama). 

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Browning started 7 games in 2023, had a 98.4 rating and the Bengals were 4-3 in those games.  He's probably a better backup than Willis, and that's not a knock on Willis at all since I personally consider him to be a fine backup.  The Bengals are probably only looking for someone to backup Browning, and as a result was only willing to offer a sixth round pick (if the reports are true).  Considering the Packers are short on draft picks next year, I think it was reasonable for them to approach Green Bay, even though it does seem to be a low-ball offer.

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Also rumor that a couple teams inquired about Quay Walker... but the Packers are working on an extension. 

Saints and Dolphins both inquired and offered a 4th and 5th respectively. 

 

Turning down a 4th from a bad team tells you a lot of their feelings on Quay. I'd say higher than the average fan, but it feels like right now the average fan loves every player on this defense...

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This is a year to push the chips in and not "out".  Willis I might consider if there is a vet they could find as a backup. But I'm guessing it is more press and less reality. 

  • Sidenote: I keep getting FB posts on my feed with Willis quotes about turning down a $20M contract the Bengals to stay with the Packers... talk about fake news... that would be tampering and impossible as he is already under contract.  Stupid FB bots...

Trading Walker - absolutely not. I'd rather lose him to FA and get the comp pick than trade him mid-season.  The comp is most likely a 4th or 5th anyway... 

But we have a really, really good chance to be a Super Bowl winner this year.  Don't mess with it!

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4 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

This is a year to push the chips in and not "out".  Willis I might consider if there is a vet they could find as a backup. But I'm guessing it is more press and less reality. 

Trading Walker - absolutely not. I'd rather lose him to FA and get the comp pick than trade him mid-season.  The comp is most likely a 4th or 5th anyway... 

But we have a really, really good chance to be a Super Bowl winner this year.  Don't mess with it!

On that, Jason Wilde says they're close to a contract extension.

They've had an offer on the table for the last week and per Wilde, Elgton Jenkins, telegraphing what may be an extension, asked Wilde... out of nowhere "you looking for Quay?" And then proceeded to call Quay over.

Wilde said the contract SOUNDS like it's close, but... that's it.

I don't think you can trade Walker away. 

Doubs, Walker, Rhyan... I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, but they're gone and in 2027, we'll likely get a 3rd, 4th and a 5th I'm just guessing, plus perhaps a couple of 6th or 7th rd picks. 

I think everything right now is about the next 3 years before Parson's cap hit jumps to 60M and Love's takes a big jump as well. Love will be restructured and I'm sure Parson's will as well short of anything... unfortunate happening, but his cap hits are very low the next 3 years relative to his contract, so.... it's 3 all in years. 

 

So that's the difference between Thompson and Gutekunst. Gutekunst is willing to POSSIBLY be bad in 4 years to go for it right now... and Thompson just wanted to give the Packers a chance every year and never get in cap trouble. The cap is so much larger you can navigate it more easily now.


But how good the Packers are in 4 years will depend soo much on picking the right players to extend and then really drafting well with the picks we do have the next 2 years. We've seen teams(the Rams) who managed to stay competitive without 1st Rd picks because they kept hitting on their later picks. 

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    Sidenote: I keep getting FB posts on my feed with Willis quotes about turning down a $20M contract the Bengals to stay with the Packers... talk about fake news... that would be tampering and impossible as he is already under contract.  Stupid FB bots...

Facebook is just a cess pool is entirely made up News across the board on everything. Every topic... 

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5 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

Facebook Social Media is just a cess pool is entirely made up News across the board on everything. Every topic... 

Fixed that for you. 😉 Alas... it is the easiest way to keep in touch with long distance friends.

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11 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Fixed that for you. 😉 Alas... it is the easiest way to keep in touch with long distance friends.

True... don't mean to be unfair to META... they're all awful. 

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Packers moves.

-This team has some holes but also a LOT of talent. They've also failed to really play at a high level week after week. Youth can't be an excuse any longer. Nobody cares if they're the youngest team. Not when you trade multiple 1sts for the "final piece." 

Some moves I've seen thrown around. 

 

1-Asante Samuel Jr(FA), the extremely talented young CB who looked like he was on his way to becoming a star, but then dealt with injuries, he was just cleared to play. 

If you got him now, give him 3 weeks or so to get ready to play. He could be a real difference maker and he won't cost much, but there will likely be multiple teams interested and the Chargers would probably be the favorite. 

2-Quinnen Williams. DT Jets
-I saw a rumor the Packers were interested. Jets want a 2nd Rd pick. 
He's not a run stuffer. He's MORE of a Devonte Wyatt type DT. He's an All Pro caliber player and he's expensive. So... there's that. He's one of the best DT's in the league and it's hard for me to envision the Packers being able(more like willing ) to spend at least one day 2 pick+ the large AAV for another defensive player... but he would make this DL the best pass rushing DL in the league. Hypothetically, being able to line up with Gary, Wyatt, Williams, LVN and Parsons roaming around, that create havoc. If our defense was struggling and we were one impact player away, I'd gladly make this trade. But maybe you buck the trend, make a strong area(pass rush) stronger and try and win like the Giants with Eli did.

3-Denzel Ward CB Browns-
I don't see the appeal that others do. He's highly paid and he plays with THE best front 7 in the NFL and he's struggled. The rumor is a day 2 pick for him as well. I'd personally pass. 

4-Riq Woolen CB Seattle-
He's another freak. Seattle doesn't overthink it, they see a guy like DK or Woolen in the 3rd or 4th, they take them. Like Metcalf, I didn't think Woolen would be quite agile enough to be a star... which he was for a stretch. He's struggled lately. At 6'4 with great ball skills, he could be a HUGE upgrade and is a pending FA. 

I'd guess a 5th rd pick. If you want to play Cover 2 most of the time, a long corner with his ball skills would be a damn good option. In Man, he's been good as well knocking WRs off their routes. 

5-Mark Andrews
A pass catching TE to replace Tucker Kraft(or to be our #1). I think this is less likely with the ACFN still up for grabs and Baltimore still somehow alive despite a 1-5 start, but at 3-5 with 2 games left against Pitt, they're still well within striking distance.

For people who think the Packers season is going bad... and I'm among them, it does help to look around from time to time. Baltimore started the season blowing out the Bills for 3 quarters, lost a 1 point game, lost 4 of their next 5, Lamar was out. Now getting healthy, they're in the race. I'd guess he stays put... and then joins the Chiefs to replace Kelce after this year as Baltimore has a young dynamic TE in Likely to replace him. 

6-T'Vondre Sweat DT Tennessee
Sweat would give the Packers a monster vs the run. 6'4 366 pounds. He's been a stud vs the run since day 1. He's also picked up 2 sacks this year, but I wouldn't expect much pass rush. At most, he'd be a guy who could collapse the pocket a bit, but his primary use would be to re-set the LOS and give Quay and Edge Cooper more free running lanes to make plays.

Run stuffers generally go cheap. He's 2nd year run stuffer who went 38th in the draft in 2024 and has exceeded expectations, but the new leadership may see a run stuffer as a waste on a team looking to pick in the top 4-8.

The BIGGER upside, DT no longer becomes a need in the immediate future. Wyatt, Wooden, Brooks, Brinson have all played very well(relative to expectations) and look like a good core moving forward. If you don't add a DT, you'll need to address that in the draft. So you can justify this pick and use of draft capital as he would have 2.5 years of team control. It would give you more time to develop Brinson... who has looked very good. And you could probably part ways with Stackhouse who... I don't really see making a positive impact on this team. 

3nd Rd pick+2027 5th for Sweat and a 2026 6th rd pick? 

7-Jackson Powers-Johnson, OL, Raiders
Hey, the last two are obvious.
The Packers OL sucks, Jackson Powers-Johnson played on the OL... he didn't suck last year. 
He's fallen out of favor. He'd give the Packers a big, physical center. You could move Jenkins back to OG, let Jordan Morgan focus on playing OT... and let Aaron Banks wait for a chance to play when healthy or... just wait until they eat a big cap hit after this season, admitting their mistake. ~25M cap hit, ~20M dead cap next year. So sunken money. 

Haven't a clue what it'd cost to get him, but again with limited resources, if they think he can start, it would be trading a pick for a player on a rookie deal who could step in right now. Again, you need to address OL in the draft. This would just be using that pick to get a cheap player with a couple more years of team control. 

8-David Njoku, TE, Browns
Another guy on an expiring deal and bad team... with a young player replacing him. He's TE 2 in Cleveland right now behind a rookie from Bowling Green and has said he wants to finish his career in Cleveland... and Cleveland is reportedly looking to add talent(Why the hell they're looking to add players when they'll be using the 43M cap credit to put toward cutting Deshaun Watson after this year and are a bad team is confusing to me, but the Browns are gonna...well, their uniforms are brought to you by dude wipes. That's how the Browns are won. Named "the Browns," sponsored by something to wipe your ass and they moved on from Baker Mayfield when he was hurt just so they could reset the QB market.

6th-7th rd pick

 

Others
Rasul Douglas-Bring back a familiar face. He's a ballhawk. He's also physical and he's on a 1 year deal for Miami. He could likely be had for a conditional 7th.

Alonte Taylor CB NO-Guy sounds like a slot CB to me. Also...not great this year, but the Saints don't have a very good front. They do play hard though. Dennis Allen may have been given Chicken Feces, but... at least the Chickens are trying hard. That's... really the minimum you should expect, but when competing for a top 5 pick, it's not bad). 

 

 

Conclusion-The Packers have 11 picks after trading away their next two 1st rd picks as well as a late 2027 pick. This is a Super Bowl or bust type of year, but I don't think they want to go into draft with 3-4 picks and without a 1st or 2nd rd pick. Especially with several FA's on their way out(though they could get some draft pick compensation as a result).  


 

 

IF you could get Woolen for a deal similar to the Titans recent trade of McCreary, I would do that. A 6th for Woolen and a 7th. Seattle has a lot of players to pay and he's struggled. These players are always traded for less than I think, so... mcCreary had been better, so a similar package makes sense. McCreary would have made more, but that ship has sailed. 

Sweat- I'd LOVE to add a young DT who can play the run like him... and who can collapse the pocket, helping the edge rushers and off ball LBers, but I wouldn't offer more than a 3rd. If you think he's the type of player you need to be able to get past run heavy teams like Philly and Det though...it may be worth it. 

Jackson Powers-Johnson -Cheap rookie contract and he played well last year. With Jenkins likely gone next year and hopefully Banks... save money and upgrade this year. 

Last year however, as a Center, Powers-Johnson was one of the better Centers in the league as a pass blocker and a run blocker.

 

Moving Jenkins back to Guard, Powers-Johnson in at Center, that may be the trade that has the biggest impact. 

 

 

Any trade has to come with a better game plan on offense, a shift in ideology and more disciplined play, but this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl. They're also... more than capable of getting beaten by anybody and bowing out in the WC round. 

 

There is NO player out there that's going to make this team a Super Bowl players. We have the talent we need. Player for player, position for position, we're good enough save for some tweaks. That's what this is. None of these players are All Pro's(or aren't expected to be). But they could shore up some areas and when we figure our own problems out...could help. 

Just remember how bad the 2010 team looked early on when they fell to 6-6 or even the '23 team when we all thought we'd get a top 5 pick and instead put up nearly 50 on Dallas and was a FG away from beating SF.

 

So as far away as they look now... they're not. As great as they looked vs Detroit... they weren't that great either. They're the 3rd or 4th best team in the NFC(Philly, Det, LAR...4th I'd say) and within reach of any of those 3 and bad enough to get run off the field by any of them. 

 

@LouisElyyou had some guys you wanted to see. I'd just thrown out some of the names I'd seen on the block, some of whom were connected to the Packers others just...rumored to be traded. I wouldn't be trading a guy like Sweat, but new regime, terrible team, maybe they want their picks back. 

I hate trading more picks, but if a a 3rd, 6th and 7th would get us Sweat, Powers-Johnson and Woolen, I'll go full Rams and go for it. 

 

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A couple Packer-based sites have mentioned that someone at The Athletic is reporting the Packers are asking around about cornerbacks.

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2 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

So it looks like Gute is content to go the rest of the season with Valentine, Nixon and Hobbs as their cornerbacks. No Super Bowl this year.

I don't see any updates on someone signing Asante Samuel Jr yet... or do you know something Google doesn't?

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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3 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

I don't see any updates on someone signing Asante Samuel Jr yet... or do you know something Google doesn't?

I can't get excited about a guy coming off of spinal fusion surgery.

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7 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

So it looks like Gute is content to go the rest of the season with Valentine, Nixon and Hobbs as their cornerbacks. No Super Bowl this year.

If Kraft is done for the year, I don't see the Super Bowl happening anyway.

I thought DT was a bigger need.  Carolina ran for 163 yards - another CB wouldn't have helped that at all.

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6 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

If Kraft is done for the year, I don't see the Super Bowl happening anyway.

I thought DT was a bigger need.  Carolina ran for 163 yards - another CB wouldn't have helped that at all.

Green Bay has the #5 rushing defense in the NFL. DT isn't a need. They just need to get healthy.

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On 11/7/2025 at 5:19 PM, HarryDoyle said:

Green Bay has the #5 rushing defense in the NFL. DT isn't a need. They just need to get healthy.

When all it takes is to lose one player and the flood gates open... it means you need another player for depth. 

 

On 11/7/2025 at 5:11 PM, LouisEly said:

If Kraft is done for the year, I don't see the Super Bowl happening anyway.

I thought DT was a bigger need.  Carolina ran for 163 yards - another CB wouldn't have helped that at all.

I'm not sure who would've helped (or if Asante would or not), but we don't really have anyone who is high performing either.  Hobbs is looking like a washout.  At best, Nixon and Valentine are low-mid starters.  No harm in pushing them. Plus, depth is still pretty weak. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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On 11/7/2025 at 5:11 PM, LouisEly said:

If Kraft is done for the year, I don't see the Super Bowl happening anyway.

I thought DT was a bigger need.  Carolina ran for 163 yards - another CB wouldn't have helped that at all.

I've been Guty needs to be scouring practice squads for hidden talent. We're in a pretty bad draft situation with everything we gave up to get Parsons

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8 hours ago, yourout said:

I've been Guty needs to be scouring practice squads for hidden talent. We're in a pretty bad draft situation with everything we gave up to get Parsons

There are times I am convinced there has to be better CBs on practice squads somewhere.

Remember what Yoda said:

 

"Cubs lead to Cardinals. Cardinals lead to dislike. Dislike leads to hate. Hate leads to constipation."

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9 minutes ago, young guns said:

There are times I am convinced there has to be better CBs on practice squads somewhere.

Lightning struck once with Rasul Douglas...

I do see Corey Ballentine is still available.  Seems like an easy button with our lack of depth.  

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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