World Series thread

[Team Canada]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

It would have been so easy to write off our series if they had also mopped the floor with Toronto. 

I never had any assumptions that we'd beat the AL team, but this has pretty much wiped out the notion that everyone should just bow before LA and they can't possibly be stopped. 

I think the Dodgers are better than us. I think the Phillies were too. But it's very clear to me that we just played a God-awful series. 

You could argue it's just the Blue Jays that are the difference, but I think Snell's WS outings aren't near what he did against the Brewers. Yamamoto was equally as brilliant. 
Still, credit to Toronto for putting together quality at bats, which the Brewers were unable to do.

[Brian]

6 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Yeah, it’s really disappointing. Nitpicking on Murphy here, because he’s obviously a good manager, but I could have done without the whole “us average Joes against Goliath” mentality. It’s not productive to say that the Dodgers probably barely know anyone on our roster. Did we just miracle our way to 97 wins?

The Dodgers are obviously superbly talented but not infallible. Learn from it and be ready to play next year. It was obviously still a far better outcome than losing to the Cubs.

To get swept is what bothered me the most, we were hardly competitive but the Dodgers at the end of season and playoffs, swept the Mariners, swept the Reds, won 2 of 3 vs the Phillies then swept the Brewers but now having trouble with Blue Jays. 

Brewers pitching completely broke down, our hitting broke down also vs the Dodgers.  Brewers 14 hits, Dodgers 32 hits was the whole story of that series.  Brewers broke down in every single category after the Cubs series, the so-called "let-down effect" I think.  It happens in the NFL, NBA, MLB. 

[BrewerFan]

On 10/28/2025 at 1:14 AM, sobomp3 said:

If there were ever a point to be made for a ghost runner, this is it. Nobody likes these games other than old school/die hard fans and that contingent left the building 10 years ago. Sheesh. 

Are you kidding me? "die hard fans" and "that contingent left the building 10 years ago?"

No....they didn't.

 

The Manfred runner is fine in the regular season, it should NOT be deciding the WORLD SERIES. That's... ridiculous. 0-3 you can 1,2,3 inning and you can win the game. 

 

[BrewerFan]

28 minutes ago, Brian said:

Brewers pitching completely broke down and our hitting broke down vs the Dodgers.

.... no, it did not. 

Our pitching stood up just fine vs the Dodgers. 

[adambr2]

34 minutes ago, Brian said:

To get swept is what bothered me the most, we were hardly competitive but the Dodgers at the end of season and playoffs, swept the Mariners, swept the Reds, won 2 of 3 vs the Phillies then swept the Brewers but now having trouble with Blue Jays. 

Brewers pitching completely broke down, our hitting broke down also vs the Dodgers.  Brewers 14 hits, Dodgers 32 hits was the whole story of that series.  Brewers broke down in every single category after the Cubs series, the so-called "let-down effect" I think.  It happens in the NFL, NBA, MLB. 

I struggle to understand why people lump our pitching in with our hitting as to why we lost the NLCS. Our pitching wasn’t perfect, it could have been better against a really elite lineup, but you can win an NLCS with the pitching we had. They kept us in every single game. Some guys had great individual performances and others did not.

Our hitting problems were a significantly greater contributor to losing this series. We did not just hit badly, it was historically badly. The performances were woeful across the board except for maybe 1-2 guys.

You hate to just pin it on one group but when you literally needed to pitch 4 shutouts to win the series, the hitting really was the full stop reason for our unsightly exit.

 

[Brian]

29 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

.... no, it did not. 

Our pitching stood up just fine vs the Dodgers. 

Giving up 32 hits in 34 innings isn't that impressive. Also, I did not count walks. 

[adambr2]

9 minutes ago, Brian said:

Giving up 32 hits in 34 innings isn't that impressive. Also, I did not count walks. 

It is a lot more impressive than scoring 4 total runs in 4 games.

We allowed 3.75 runs per game in the NLCS — the Jays are currently averaging 3.6 runs allowed per game.

The fact that we got soundly swept while the Jays are up 3-2 has nothing to do with the insignificant difference between those numbers and everything to do with the fact that the Blue Jays are hitting and we did not.

 

[Brian]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

our hitting broke down also vs the Dodgers.

You seemed to ignore that 1/2 of the problem I commented on/posted was our hitting. There wasn't only one issue. 

[adambr2]

7 minutes ago, Brian said:

You seemed to ignore that 1/2 of the problem I commented on/posted was our hitting. There wasn't only one issue. 

There was only one issue. It was the hitting. That was the problem. Not half of it. 

[BrewerFan]

On 10/28/2025 at 3:41 PM, owbc said:

You might be the only baseball fan on the planet with that opinion 🤣

The Manfred runner is almost universally despised by baseball fans but has perhaps gained some reluctant acceptance as a necessary evil in the regular season. Almost nobody actually likes it though. 

I was at the 15 inning Det-Sea ALDS game a few weeks ago. For that elimination game to be ended by the Manfred runner would have been an absolute travesty. Every single fan stayed to the end and I think that one was a 5 hour game. 

I'm good with it for the 162 game schedule. I actually like it. 

The idea that they should use it for the playoffs is... kinda silly to me. 

In the regular season, I don't want the guy who started two games ago to have to come in and pitch, but that's the whole point of the playoffs. You do whatever you can to win. 

I'm also confused how it'd "hurt viewership," to not have one. Especially in the context that people had to stop watching the game in the 14th inning .

So... they got 5 extra innings of viewership. How was that hurt by not starting with the "ghost runner" on 2nd?

 

 

Those types of games are epic, all-time greats. And I would have hated to be a Brewers fan, that stress would have broken me, but just watching two teams go after it for 18 innings was great. 

[BrewerFan]

30 minutes ago, Brian said:

Giving up 32 hits in 34 innings isn't that impressive. Also, I did not count walks. 

Ok, I'm looking at RUNS scored. The best offense in Baseball scored 2, 5, 3 ,5 runs in a 4 game series.

That is not the "Brewers pitching completely broke down."

 

11 minutes ago, Brian said:

You seemed to ignore that 1/2 of the problem I commented on/posted was our hitting. There wasn't only one issue. 

Yeah... because the other half of the comment, NOBODY is disagreeing with. 

It's the claim the pitching was terrible that people or to use your words "completely broke down," that we're disagreeing with. 

 

[Brian]

Brewers finished the year the way they started it vs. the Yankees.  What ever happened to torpedo bats anyway? 

[BrewerFan]

12 minutes ago, Brian said:

Brewers finished the year the way they started it vs. the Yankees.  What ever happened to torpedo bats anyway? 

No, they did not. They gave up more runs in one game vs the Yankees than in the entire series vs the Dodgers.

They gave up 4, 20, 12 and 11 ERs the first four games(vs 15 total in the 4 games vs the Dodgers).

They also scored 15 runs in those 4 games. `

And nothing happened to the "torpedo" bats. Some players used them. Some didn't. 

[Brian]

It just goes to show ya, it's always something, if it's not one thing it's another. 

[MrTPlush]

10 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

It would have been so easy to write off our series if they had also mopped the floor with Toronto. 

I never had any assumptions that we'd beat the AL team, but this has pretty much wiped out the notion that everyone should just bow before LA and they can't possibly be stopped. 

I think the Dodgers are better than us. I think the Phillies were too. But it's very clear to me that we just played a God-awful series. 

I don’t really see the parallel between us and the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays are a Goliath themselves, sporting a Top 5 payroll and are loaded with mega talents. They also had the best record in the AL while fighting off two big markets to win their division.

Their Top 2 players? A $150mil FA signing that is 35 and a player with a half a billion dollar contract. One that helped carry them to an ALCS win and the other carrying them in the World Series. They can pay 3 starters $19mil+ a year in their 30s and get the luxury of one injured and one just needing to pitch in relief in the postseason. I wouldn’t bow down to the Dodgers either if we had a $250mil+ payroll.

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

In retrospect, the Brewers' best hitters were onnthe verge of tearing a hamstring at any moment (Chourio) and flat out sucked (Yelich, Turang).  A huge reason for the anemic Brewer offense from Game 3 of the NLDS on was that 3 of the top 4 hitters in most of their lineups werent the same hitters that fueled their offense most kf the regular season.

When a handful of game stretch that stinks can end your season, these things really stand out.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

27 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

I don’t really see the parallel between us and the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays are a Goliath themselves, sporting a Top 5 payroll and are loaded with mega talents. They also had the best record in the AL while fighting off two big markets to win their division.

Their Top 2 players? A $150mil FA signing that is 35 and a player with a half a billion dollar contract. One that helped carry them to an ALCS win and the other carrying them in the World Series. They can pay 3 starters $19mil+ a year in their 30s and get the luxury of one injured and one just needing to pitch in relief in the postseason. I wouldn’t bow down to the Dodgers either if we had a $250mil+ payroll.

 

I'm not saying the Brewers are better than any of the final 4 teams. But I don't think we got swept because of our payroll which has been the persistent narrative. We played like crap and got rocked. The Jays barely got by Seattle. I think all these teams are somewhat close to one another, but as soon as the money team wins that becomes the only possible reason why they did, which I think is bunk. 

[Jimbo]

On 10/28/2025 at 10:36 AM, Brewluver said:

These late WS games are not good for the brand, or their viewership.

Imagine the SB ending at 1:30am with a work-day starting @ 7:00am

People are calling this one of the greatest WS games ever.  I'm curious to the viewership numbers after the 12th inning, if it would rival an NHL game or even an indoor soccer playoff game.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound?

 

[MrTPlush]

26 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I'm not saying the Brewers are better than any of the final 4 teams. But I don't think we got swept because of our payroll which has been the persistent narrative. We played like crap and got rocked. The Jays barely got by Seattle. I think all these teams are somewhat close to one another, but as soon as the money team wins that becomes the only possible reason why they did, which I think is bunk. 

Our offense definitely was terrible, even outside of the fact LA pitched lights out. I don’t think we beat them even if our hitting had been a little more human. But yah, we didn’t do ourselves favors.

How much of a money issue you want to make it I suppose is in the eye of the beholder. We were probably doomed the second Woodruff was injured, because we didn’t have the depth. Yelich becoming useless was a crippling factor. We invest and take risks on 2-3 players max…and we simply need them to show up and perform or our odds to win a high level series is doomed. Teams like the Dodgers and Blue Jays can take risks on multiple players every offseason like Woodruff. One of those teams likely goes and throws 3 years at him this offseason. Half those big contracts can be injured or not show up and yet they will still win these 7 game series. Its is hard to win when you depend on Joey Ortiz and Isaac Collin’s to pick up the slack when your top guys are cold. Dodgers and Blue Jays never have to look to a Joey Ortiz to get a big hit.

It’s not that they will always win or we have zero chance…but our margin of error is basically zero. We are running a 400M and the Dodgers are running a 100M.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

5 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

Dodgers and Blue Jays never have to look to a Joey Ortiz to get a big hit.

 

It sure felt like Ortiz was up an awful lot in huge situations, too. 

Pretty funny that for all the payroll hang-wringing, it was our highest-paid guy that laid the biggest egg.

[Brian]

38 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Pretty funny that for all the payroll hang-wringing, it was our highest-paid guy that laid the biggest egg.

LOL not only Yelich, Also: Rhys Hoskins took the Brewers to the cleaners in 2025.  Hoskins could be the biggest slip up of Matt Arnolds career. 

[Team Canada]

Fun WS stat:

 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

21 hours ago, owbc said:

Calgary and Edmonton are separate markets are far as I'm concerned. They are 3 hours apart from each other. If they are the same, then the Brewers are Chicago's third baseball team. 

The other thing with Calgary is that it's Coors Light. 3500 ft. above sea level. That's not Mexico City, but it's not nothing either. I don't think MLB would ever consider Calgary or Edmonton. Vancouver just makes way more sense. It's a massive market, has a lot of pro sports experience (MLS, NHL, and NBA), and is a natural travel partner and rival for Seattle, which helps reduce the overall footprint of the league and unfair distance situation they find themselves in. Of course, I'd imagine someplace like Raleigh or Nashville would probably be ahead of Vancouver too, maybe even Monterrey, which is HUGE (5.3 million) and would make MLB the first country to expand major North American pro sports into Latin America.

As for the series, the Blue Jays can hit. They've mid in-roads into the Dodgers bullpen, and that's made all the difference.

[SeaBass]

17 hours ago, owbc said:

I don't think Oilers/Flames fans would agree. Maybe I'm wrong and they would all embrace an "Alberta" baseball team, but they would have to pick one city to put the team in so half the fans will associate that team with the "enemy" city in the hockey world.  

I mean, in the grand scheme of things this really isn't that important because it's probably very unlikely Canada would get a 3rd team (and I think Montreal would be the landslide favorite to be awarded the 2nd team if that even happens) but this makes no sense at all.

The entire country is backing the Blue Jays right now, are people in Edmonton going to go to literal war with Calgary over the right to be true Blue Jays fans? Is it really that big of a stretch to think that maybe a baseball team located just 300 miles away might be one you decide to root for instead of the one that's 2,124 miles away? Toronto has a hockey team too and I'm guessing the Leafs aren't many Alberta residents' favorite team either.

I just don't think these are the reasons it wouldn't be an Alberta team, there would be other, better reasons that it wouldn't. Vancouver, from what people have already said on this topic, feels like an objectively more attractive option. I still think Montreal, if the city backs it financially and commits to building a stadium, would be MLB's preferred choice.

In the end it's all about money and what ownership group MLB finds most attractive. It could simply be none of the above.

[Brewluver]

2 hours ago, Jimbo said:

People are calling this one of the greatest WS games ever.  I'm curious to the viewership numbers after the 12th inning, if it would rival an NHL game or even an indoor soccer playoff game.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it make a sound?

 

I think social media has changed things some.

In the past I couldn't say "screw it, I'll watch the highlights in the am on you tube"