World Series thread

[thebruce44]

1 hour ago, Brewluver said:

I agree with you ALL 100 % about the ghost runner !!! (it's stupid, and I wasn't the one to bring it up)

My argument is that the GAME should have started at 3pm LA time

(so the rest of the flippin country can watch it).

No one has yet to argue with me that 3am is ridiculous.

As someone who lives in LA near Dodgers stadium, 3pm during the workday is horrendous for local fans.

I get it, you like to go to bed at 11 and get your 7-8 hours. And I have young kids who couldn't stay up past 8. But we do have the technology to record and rewatch, so just go to bed and watch it in the morning if that's what works best for you.

[tmwiese55]

3 hours ago, Brewluver said:

I agree with you ALL 100 % about the ghost runner !!! (it's stupid, and I wasn't the one to bring it up)

My argument is that the GAME should have started at 3pm LA time

(so the rest of the flippin country can watch it).

No one has yet to argue with me that 3am is ridiculous.

Have a WS weekday game start at 3 pm  is basically as weird or odd as it ending at 2AM.    Especially since the 2AM is a freak occurrence rather than planned.

I would easily argue that 3AM is not ridiculous because you simply cannot plan on the once in 15 year like occurrence that a game will go 18 innings.  One simply has to realize the world does not resolve around them and their preferences and that one's own preferences are not automatically better than others.

For the once in 15-20 years to stomp ones feet about 3AM being ridiculous you'd have all the other games where everyone goes "***, why is this game on in the middle of the afternoon? that is ridiculous".  And the answer would be, "hey once in a few hundred games it goes like 18 innings so we're making our plans on the 1% chance that happens."  That is actually more ridiculous IMO because you're planning it with such poor logic

And couldn't one say "awww poor WI fans having to stay up a bit late". The LA people are already being flexible or compromised enough to have it be at 5 local.   Just think how many Brewers fans have complained the last few years that our playoff games were in the day and how inconvenient it is, now you're demanding the WS be in the middle of day since in this case it benefits you.

ETA: FYI if LA Country alone was its own state it would be the 11th largest state by population. But yea, F those guys

[homer]

3pm Pacific time is weird. 5 or 6 makes way more sense. 7pm is nuts.

[Brewluver]

My prediction -

Ohtani 4

Jays  3

[homer]

Vlad Jr might be my favorite non Brewer.

[Brewluver]

12 minutes ago, homer said:

Vlad Jr might be my favorite non Brewer.

You still up ??

[homer]

59 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

You still up ??

no

[Underachiever]

How does Roberts still pitch Treinen?

[yourout]

Blue Jays are certainly swinging the bats better than the Brewers did. 

Granted that's an extraordinarily low bar.

[adambr2]

5 minutes ago, yourout said:

Blue Jays are certainly swinging the bats better than the Brewers did. 

Granted that's an extraordinarily low bar.

It’s definitely probably not accurate for us to assume that we would have beaten the Jays, which I think many fans were.

[Brewluver]

Unfortunately ............

Fox's broadcast of Game 4 of the World Series tonight was outpaced by ABC's "Dancing with the Stars".

Pretty sad day for MLB

[Recovering Chicagoan]

42 minutes ago, Brewluver said:

Unfortunately ............

Fox's broadcast of Game 4 of the World Series tonight was outpaced by ABC's "Dancing with the Stars".

Pretty sad day for MLB

I guess I'm not surprised. I just saw a stat where the WS viewership is down from last year here in the U.S. (but way up in Japan and Canada, for obvious reasons).

[Frisbee Slider]

10 hours ago, Brewluver said:

Fox's broadcast of Game 4 of the World Series tonight was outpaced by ABC's "Dancing with the Stars".

The Blue Jays do not have enough stars whereas the Dodgers have too many? 🤷‍♂️🙂

[OldSchoolSnapper]

10 hours ago, Brewluver said:

Unfortunately ............

Fox's broadcast of Game 4 of the World Series tonight was outpaced by ABC's "Dancing with the Stars".

Pretty sad day for MLB

Baseball is by far the most hyperlocal of the major sports. The vast, vast majority of fans can't name anyone outside a handful of guys who don't play for their favorite team. Compare that with football where a ton of fans could name close to every starting QB in the league and all the best skill players. I guess I'm not surprised that a Canadian team playing the Dodgers is a bore for most of the country. The largest markets of NY and CHI likely are diametrically opposed to watching anyway.

I would have guessed that DWTS would outpace it. It's a show with a far more diverse audience.

[Frisbee Slider]

Dancing with the Stars has a salary cap and competitive balance

[igor67]

It's too bad because 30 years ago this Series has all the drama potential of an all time classic.

[jw5511986]

11 hours ago, Brewluver said:

Unfortunately ............

Fox's broadcast of Game 4 of the World Series tonight was outpaced by ABC's "Dancing with the Stars".

Pretty sad day for MLB

Alright well it was the Halloween episode of DWTS though.

[SeaBass]

17 hours ago, owbc said:

The Manfred runner is almost universally despised by baseball fans but has perhaps gained some reluctant acceptance as a necessary evil in the regular season. Almost nobody actually likes it though. 

I don't think this is true. I love the ghost runner in extras. I think it adds pressure and excitement. It used to be if there were a few scoreless innings in extras it wasn't odd at all. Now if you don't score that ghost runner, especially if you're not the home team, you're thinking you're going to lose. Even if you only score 1 run you know that the other team has a really good chance to tie or even win.

That said, it absolutely makes sense that old school extra innings rules be used in the postseason. When it's for all the marbles expediting an ending to the game really isn't what the game, or the series, is about at that point. The war of attrition impacts the series regardless of which team actually wins that individual game unless it's a game 7 or series clincher.

I could see the ghost runner rule being adopted in the playoffs in the future though. Give fans enough time to become used to the "new" rule and they'll eventually start thinking it's silly that MLB is adhering to an old "archaic" rule like playing extra innings to infinity. I'm not saying I want that, I'm just saying I could see it happening.

[Team Canada]

1 hour ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Baseball is by far the most hyperlocal of the major sports. The vast, vast majority of fans can't name anyone outside a handful of guys who don't play for their favorite team. Compare that with football where a ton of fans could name close to every starting QB in the league and all the best skill players. I guess I'm not surprised that a Canadian team playing the Dodgers is a bore for most of the country. The largest markets of NY and CHI likely are diametrically opposed to watching anyway.

I would have guessed that DWTS would outpace it. It's a show with a far more diverse audience.

Right. One, a popular national show is going to do better than the World Series which stretches over 4-7 games, unlike the Super Bowl, which is a single game. Also, interest is going to drop to some extent as fans' teams drop out.

Overall viewership of the postseason was way up:

"Through the League Championship Series, MLB Postseason viewership is averaging 4.48 million viewers in the United States, making it the most-watched Postseason since 2017 and an increase of +13% over last year."

[OldSchoolSnapper]

4 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

Right. One, a popular national show is going to do better than the World Series which stretches over 4-7 games, unlike the Super Bowl, which is a single game. Also, interest is going to drop to some extent as fans' teams drop out.

Overall viewership of the postseason was way up:

"Through the League Championship Series, MLB Postseason viewership is averaging 4.48 million viewers in the United States, making it the most-watched Postseason since 2017 and an increase of +13% over last year."

And to the point of hyperlocal-ness...this was the Cubs first year back in for some time and they played 8 games, which I'm sure contributed heavily to that 13%. They were likely the second-largest viewership in the entire postseason.

[Brewluver]

1 hour ago, Frisbee Slider said:

The Blue Jays do not have enough stars whereas the Dodgers have too many? 🤷‍♂️🙂

That is very good.

Didn't even think of the Jays naming the series that, (it would be so true).

[Brewluver]

41 minutes ago, jw5511986 said:

Alright well it was the Halloween episode of DWTS though.

So it was pretty good huh? 😉

[tmwiese55]

And to compare this year vs last year in the USA is a bit pointless. Last year was the dream scenario of LA/NYY.  Any other matchup was going to be down

 

[Brewluver]

17 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

Overall viewership of the postseason was way up:

Just NOT the World Series.

I think you were right, as teams drop out, their fans lose interest.

[owbc]

1 hour ago, tmwiese55 said:

And to compare this year vs last year in the USA is a bit pointless. Last year was the dream scenario of LA/NYY.  Any other matchup was going to be down

 

Yeah when you add in Canada and Japan these were the highest watched World Series games since game 7 in 2016. 

It's nice to see the Blue Jays' popularity finally getting some credit. Many Americans don't realize how popular they are in Canada. They are #1 in MLB in regular season TV viewership -- higher than the Yankees. Yes, all their games are broadcast nationally, but you still need to have people interested in baseball to get those eyes on the screen. Manfred even mentioned the possibility of another Canadian team in the future.