Brewers (Harrison) vs Rays (Martinez): 3/30/26, 6:40pm

[adambr2]

3-1 with the top of the order coming up and he swings at a pitch way outside. Thanks, Blake.

[yourout]

Tough pitches.

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

I'm not sure what just happened... Murph just got worked by Cash somehow.

Can’t win ‘em all, but that was not a well managed bottom of the 9th by Murphy.

[BarremlensTSSC]

Well that was disappointing.  9th could have been handled better imo, but you literally can't win 'em all.

[yourout]

3 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

I'm not sure what just happened... Murph just got worked by Cash somehow.

Yeah that wasn't really stellar work by Murph

[BarremlensTSSC]

Just now, adambr2 said:

Can’t win ‘em all, but that was not a well managed bottom of the 9th by Murphy.

Took the words right out of my mouth (and I didn't see them until i posted almost the exact same thing).

[adambr2]

Disappointing result, but I will take Harrison’s debut as a strong moral victory. He looks legit.

[Sugarrayray]

Does anyone have a clue why Murph opted to use Perk against a righty instead of the lefty by pinch hitting for Mitchell? Perk is far better from the right side. Furthermore Mitchell can’t hit…..I am beyond perplexed.

[edfunderburk]

Disappointing loss

9th inning walk in a tie game comes around to score 

Mitchell with an awful at bat ending in a strike out

Harrison looked great 

Missed our injured RH bats tonight 

 

[adambr2]

Just now, Sugarrayray said:

Does anyone have a clue why Murph opted to use Perk against a righty instead of the lefty by pinch hitting for Mitchell? Perk is far better from the right side. Furthermore Mitchell can’t hit…..I am beyond perplexed.

I hope they ask him. No counters for Seymour in the 9th despite numerous options was pretty baffling.

[folly412]

Not having our big right-handed bats hurt.  They were just marching lefties out of their pen.  Wonder if Ortiz is banged up that he didn't pinch hit.

[wallus]

5 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

3-1 with the top of the order coming up and he swings at a pitch way outside. Thanks, Blake.

The count was 2-2

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, wallus said:

The count was 2-2

Ah, Gameday lied to me then.

[Sugarrayray]

I think the Ortiz thing makes a little more sense. Murphy just flat out doesn’t trust him to make good swing decisions. He had an at-bat yesterday that was just atrocious. He has been off to a better start this year though. I wonder if Murph intentionally just gave him a hard day off.

The Perk thing is just beyond frustrating though. If you are gonna trust him to pinch hit, you put him in the situation he has a better chance to succeed at 100 times out of 100. 
 

Lastly, if he knew he wasn’t going to pinch hit for those lads, he shouldn’t have stacked 3 lefties in a row like that. Very poorly done.

[Sugarrayray]

Just now, adambr2 said:

Ah, Gameday lied to me then.

There was a challenge that at-bat and it got overturned; Gameday probably stumbled over that.

[wallus]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

Ah, Gameday lied to me then.

I figured you weren't watching the game. Tampa challenged the pitch and it just nipped the zone to make it 2-2

[wiguy94]

Interesting decisions in the bottom of the 9th letting Mitchell and Hamilton face a LHP. Admittedly his best pitch is his changeup and not like the bench RHH options were super inspiring

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Tough day for the offense. Some hard hit balls find gloves, only managed to put together one real inning, Rays got the big clutch hit against Megill.

That 2-1 pitch to Perkins kind of illustrates the issue with ABS. Who the heck actually knows if that pitch was a strike. The umpire says no. The box says yes. It's probably within the system margin of error, and so now we defer to the robot instead of the human. Even had the roles been reversed, I'd feel the same. It just forces the question of what you're gaining with this system. I don't think it was designed for pitches like that, where a seam clips a computer-modeled corner. It's just a little bit uncanny valley for me, but you can't really fight it, I guess. Us Luddites are losing everywhere, so why should baseball be any different? I was too optimistic about the challenge system, I think.

Totally agree with the lack of PHers in the ninth. Letting Mitchell hit against the lefty and then going with Perkins over Lockridge against the righty was the weirdest possible platoon advantage.

 

[adambr2]

I know this probably flies in the face of sound logic, but I would given Quero a bat in the 9th.

[Sugarrayray]

1 minute ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Tough day for the offense. Some hard hit balls find gloves, only managed to put together one real inning, Rays got the big clutch hit against Megill.

That 2-1 pitch to Perkins kind of illustrates the issue with ABS. Who the heck actually knows if that pitch was a strike. The umpire says no. The box says yes. It's probably within the system margin of error, and so now we defer to the robot instead of the human. Even had the roles been reversed, I'd feel the same. It just forces the question of what you're gaining with this system. I don't think it was designed for pitches like that, where a seam clips a computer-modeled corner. It's just a little bit uncanny valley for me, but you can't really fight it, I guess. Us Luddites are losing everywhere, so why should baseball be any different? I was too optimistic about the challenge system, I think.

Totally agree with the lack of PHers in the ninth. Letting Mitchell hit against the lefty and then going with Perkins over Lockridge against the righty was the weirdest possible platoon advantage.

 

Power to us Luddites! 
 

RE the challenge system. I think the things is that for every pitch overturned like the one you mention, there’ll be about 15 obvious ones that were necessary, and hopefully throughout the LONG system, the good outweighs the bad quite a bit.

[Sugarrayray]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I know this probably flies in the face of sound logic, but I would given Quero a bat in the 9th.

Against the lefty sure!

[Jim French Stepstool]

I thought the strategy would've been:

Mitchell bunting (I don't care how far in the 3B was), then Ortiz for Hamilton. Or

Ortiz hits for Mitchell, and you can then roll the dice with Hamilton who is unlikely to hit into a DP & could very well get a 'line drive in the box score" infield hit. Either way I was not happy with Mitchell coming to the plate & not bunting.

Once you got to the Lockridge AB & they brought in the righty, I was fine with Perkins hitting for him. But then sometime during that AB Frelick needed to run.

I thought Harrison was pretty impressive.

[RobertCrawley]

5 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Tough day for the offense. Some hard hit balls find gloves, only managed to put together one real inning, Rays got the big clutch hit against Megill.

That 2-1 pitch to Perkins kind of illustrates the issue with ABS. Who the heck actually knows if that pitch was a strike. The umpire says no. The box says yes. It's probably within the system margin of error, and so now we defer to the robot instead of the human. Even had the roles been reversed, I'd feel the same. It just forces the question of what you're gaining with this system. I don't think it was designed for pitches like that, where a seam clips a computer-modeled corner. It's just a little bit uncanny valley for me, but you can't really fight it, I guess. Us Luddites are losing everywhere, so why should baseball be any different? I was too optimistic about the challenge system, I think.

Totally agree with the lack of PHers in the ninth. Letting Mitchell hit against the lefty and then going with Perkins over Lockridge against the righty was the weirdest possible platoon advantage.

 

Definitely a downside of a new ABS system. We look at the video replay as if it is infallible. I doubt very much that is the case. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

1 minute ago, Sugarrayray said:

Power to us Luddites! 
 

RE the challenge system. I think the things is that for every pitch overturned like the one you mention, there’ll be about 15 obvious ones that were necessary, and hopefully throughout the LONG system, the good outweighs the bad quite a bit.

I hope you're right. 

My nightmare scenario is everyone hoards their challenges for the final innings, and the pitches that get challenged are basically all 50-50, and you get a closing situation that's just fundamentally different from the rest of the game because now its functionally being umpired by a software entity. I don't think the system was designed that way--it's designed to correct obvious errors. But baseball also has a long history of aiming for every microscopic edge, and ruthless ABS challenge efficiency might well be something we converge toward. When we get close enough to that, full ABS will be the only option. I don't like that one bit, but I should probably start preparing for it.

 

[Bulldogboy]

Ortiz actually hitting and gets a day off. Murphy going to Murphy i guess. When he's 0-30 run him out there.