Tarik Skubal

[Mr Southpaw]

Whoever the Brewers think has more potential between Burke and Ficsher.  Trade the other. their skill sets are too similar to keep all.

[KCBrewerfan34]

I just think Dodgers will outbid us in a Skubal auction. We really need a really good 6th or 7th inning reliever. I’m assuming Yordan won’t be available. 

[Mr Southpaw]

Pina, Jett and Burke

for

Skubal and Grayson Grinsell

[TURBO]

If this is the real Sproat, do we even need to send a ridiculous package to Detroit for Skubal?

The Miz, Harrison and Woody (if he can stay healthy) is a pretty special top 3, then you have Henderson and Sproat to round off the top 5.

Is Skubal really our biggest need anymore?

Given the fact that we'd have Skubal for what, 3-4 months, is it really worth it to give away the farm?

I'm hesitant given what has been happening with our starting pitching as of late.  Woody and Sproat really change things if this continues.

[TURBO]

Gosh, have you guys been watching what Fischer has been doing?  He's just destroying AA pitching, hasn't missed a beat since leaving the T-Rats, AT ALL!

If he cuts down on those Ks, say to even 30%, we have something pretty special in the making.  He may not have a position at the moment (I think he can still be a decent 3B), but trading that bat for a player that is on our roster for 4 months seems crazy to me.

[Jopal78]

39 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Gosh, have you guys been watching what Fischer has been doing?  He's just destroying AA pitching, hasn't missed a beat since leaving the T-Rats, AT ALL!

If he cuts down on those Ks, say to even 30%, we have something pretty special in the making.  He may not have a position at the moment (I think he can still be a decent 3B), but trading that bat for a player that is on our roster for 4 months seems crazy to me.

Way off topic but Fischer is at about a 44% K rate now. Could he cut that down to 30% without changing his power game to do so? Maybe.

But at 30% he’d still Russell Branyan 2.0.

[endaround]

18 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Way off topic but Fischer is at about a 44% K rate now. Could he cut that down to 30% without changing his power game to do so? Maybe.

But at 30% he’d still Russell Branyan 2.0.

Or you know, Spencer Jones. 

[nate82]

2 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

Way off topic but Fischer is at about a 44% K rate now. Could he cut that down to 30% without changing his power game to do so? Maybe.

But at 30% he’d still Russell Branyan 2.0.

Where are you getting 44% K rate for Fischer?  

Fangraphs has him at 33.9% between AA and A+.  The only way you can get close to 44% is if you are doing it by AB's and that is not how you calculate K%.  You have to take the total of PA's not AB's.

Fangraphs:

Baseball Savant:

[Jopal78]

1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Where are you getting 44% K rate for Fischer?  

Fangraphs has him at 33.9% between AA and A+.  The only way you can get close to 44% is if you are doing it by AB's and that is not how you calculate K%.  You have to take the total of PA's not AB's.

Fangraphs:

Baseball Savant:

Yes, I’m aware. Calculate the stats myself. Looked at wrong column. The point remains, the challenge is to get the strike outs under control as the quality of opposing pitching increases while not conceding power
 

FWIW. Hiura struck out 25.2%

[TURBO]

29 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

FWIW. Hiura struck out 25.2%

I'm not so sure I trust your ciphering anymore...

:)

[BrewerFan]

On 6/30/2026 at 12:27 PM, rickh150 said:

For me, it’s about Skubal pitching meaningful games in October. And it’s thinkable to trade one good prospect like Pena when realizing there are no glaring open spots for him in the infield with all the other gobs of young talent.
If that is all that it takes and we can get him from July 17- Playoffs, I think I do it. And most Brewers fans would be glad to risk it for a change.

Pena for Skubal would be needlessly overpaying.

Also, who is he blocked by? 

He's in HiA. Next year, if there's a next year, Turang will have 2 years left, he'll be in AA. 
The following year, he'll be in AAA, Turang will have a year left.

You can trade Turang or keep Turang.... and play Pena as a utlity player before sliding him over to 2B. Or he could play 3B. But I'm pretty sure the top 20 prospect isn't going to be blocked. 

[wntrtxn21]

5 hours ago, endaround said:

Or you know, Spencer Jones. 

Jones in a very small big league sample, is whiffing at a 43% rate (34 Ks - 80 PAs)

[igor67]

I haven't seen anyone suggest the K rate isn't a caution. No one has advocated he replace Made as the best prospect in the game. I have seen a lot of pseudo-Straw man implications that people who think Fischer is a big time prospect whose power makes him worth protecting are some how ignoring that. The in game power this fast is pretty darn special. Brock Wilken is a decent point of comparison. He was definitely a bat first significant Power prospect. Things looked on the rebound last year coming back from the injury, but still a year older then Fischer is this year and repeating AA he managed 18 HRs in 344PAs, and towards the end of that season he crossed the 1000 minor league PA mark. Fischer currently has 24 HRs this year in only 286 PAs. If you use only his HR rate in AA to try and be fair he'd have 34 HRs in those same 344 PAs. Yes the K rate is definitely higher, but Fischer also has a measly 373 career minor league PAs, so he really hasn't even had much time to try and adjust an approach that has him hitting HRs like he's Bonds.

[nate82]

The K rate is concerning but the number of HR's he is hitting is crazy.  His K rate suggests he should be doing worse but when he is making contact he is making it count.  In A+ about 54% of hits went for extra base hits and in his short time in AA all but one of his hits has been extra base hits.  Adding it all up 38 of his hits so far in A and AA have been for extra base hits or just about 58% of all of hits have been for extra base hits.

Is this sustainable with this high of a K rate?  Probably not but the power is there and I'm not even sure we have seen the best of Fischer yet or the worst.  The sample size is just too small right now to say what he is.

[Playing Catch]

I thought I saw that Fischer was asked about the K-rate, and he basically said that the Brewers want him to wait for struggle before making adjustments. I think that as a prospect, the hope is that he's Kyle Schwarberesque. But Schwarber didn't crest 30% until his first season in the big leagues and has consistently been south of that mark in MLB.

I think Fisher's approach MUST change. But I trust the Brewers' process. They've had success coaching at the MLB level with guys that seem unfinished, as prospects. Not with Hiura, of course, but each player's development path is unique. Turang and Mitchell have evolved. Chourio has improved his approach.

I think the Brewers, as a club, believe the game will show players they need to change and adjust. Right now, Fisher doesn't need to change a thing. But he will.

With that said, most of the qualified hitters that are currently posting +30% K-rates, are good players, although guys like Goodman, Cruz, or Mitchell have defensive profiles that are much friendlier to fringey hitting profiles making them more likely to become qualified in the first place.

[BrewerFan]

On 7/1/2026 at 9:59 AM, TURBO said:

If this is the real Sproat, do we even need to send a ridiculous package to Detroit for Skubal?

The Miz, Harrison and Woody (if he can stay healthy) is a pretty special top 3, then you have Henderson and Sproat to round off the top 5.

Is Skubal really our biggest need anymore?

Given the fact that we'd have Skubal for what, 3-4 months, is it really worth it to give away the farm?

I'm hesitant given what has been happening with our starting pitching as of late.  Woody and Sproat really change things if this continues.

Skubal was never our biggest "need," nor is BP help.

BUT... in lieu of another bat, you take a strength and make it overwhelming. The Dodgers could have beaten us with a mediocre offense last year... and they had Betts, Ohtani, Freeman, Smith, Muncy... now the best player on the team we played in the NLDS. 

As for the REAL Sproat, I am as bullish as anyone. I've said I'd rather trade Henderson and... understandably whoever it was that replied to me said they didn't even think it was close. One has struggled while the other has been remarkably consistent... and consistently good. 
But I don't think you can count on any true consistently dominant version of Sproat. I'd be more than happy for him to step into the Chad Patrick role and just give us a dominant pen(when he's on, or because he only has to pitch to 3-6 batters. 

Skubal/Misiorowski/Harrison/Woodruff->Ashby->Sproat->Uribe->Megill. That's more than we need, but that's a helluva formula in the post-season and probably more than we need. But that would be an ideal setup. 

 

End of the day, it's going to come down to our core. We cannot win if Turang, Contreras, Yelich, Chourio, Vauhgn, Bauers... and Frelick are all contributing(I'm a bit reticent to add Mitchell, as I don't trust him, but he's been getting it done). 

I just don't see who will be available you could slide in there. Taylor Ward?

He'll likely be more expensive than he should be....
.283/.364/.464 and .827 OPS vs LHP
You play matchup's perhaps? 

It's difficult as I think this team is REALLY good, but they're lacking and the two most obvious area's we need to improve, SS/3B.. we have so many players on their way up... it's hard to trade for a position where you have 7-8 prospects either up or in the pipeline and there's really no other position where there's a substantial upgrade. 

 

So, again, we're back to making a strength and overwhelmingly dominant strength... not that I'd pay, I don't even know if the Tigers trade him, the logic though, that's easy enough to understand. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

Bumping this one back up to the top - because even if the Tigers are now "just"  6.5 back in a bad division's standings, they'd still have 3 teams to climb over to win it...and they aren't winning an AL wildcard spot.

Skubal dominated last time out and will likely have two more starts before the trade deadline - I think if after his next start he looks like he did against the Angels and the Tigers aren't any closer in the division standings, the Brewers gotta make a serious play for him.  It's a rental, but adding him would come at a time when the Brewer rotation needs a horse - and he's pitching for a mega contract whenever the CBA gets sorted out.

It will be expensive, because I'm sure the Dodgers and other teams will be in the mix - but pairing a young MLB talent with a couple talented but blocked prospects....thinking along the lines of Henderson or Crow, Jett Williams, and a low minors flyer....does that get it done and would you make that trade?  I would, knowing both the quality and depth of the Brewers' system right now is going to force some difficult rostering decisions on that 40 man unless you plan on some selective thinning by trading them away.

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

The Tigers will be asking for a haul. If Pena isn't included would the following get it done?  Made, Fischer, Pratt, Lara and Drohan are off limits 

- Gasser or Sproat

- Hardin

- Adams or Bitonti

- Williams

-  Payne or Adamczewski

I dislike the cost but Skubal, Miz, Harrison and Drohan would be incredibly tough in the playoffs.

[Fear The Chorizo]

1 hour ago, BrewCrewBlueDevil said:

The Tigers will be asking for a haul. If Pena isn't included would the following get it done?  Made, Fischer, Pratt, Lara and Drohan are off limits 

- Gasser or Sproat

- Hardin

- Adams or Bitonti

- Williams

-  Payne or Adamczewski

I dislike the cost but Skubal, Miz, Harrison and Drohan would be incredibly tough in the playoffs.

No way I'm dealing Sproat - if you're thinking it would take some combination of that type of 5 players I think you're way overvaluing 2 months + playoffs of Skubal....and I think he is an arm worth overpaying for on a rental this particular year.....part of that calculus has to do with keeping him off your main postseason rival's roster but also giving the team it's best chance to win a WS the season before what feels like alot of uncertainty with how the financial and personnel control playing fields will be changing. 

[nate82]

I think the Cubs are going to overpay for Skubal.  Just a feeling.

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I think the Cubs are going to overpay for Skubal.  Just a feeling.

Do the Cubs even have enough to do an overpay for Skubal? 

[igor67]

It's weird to say this after so many years of commenting about this for other teams, but at a minimum you need to drive the price up for the Cubs or Dodgers.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, BrewCrewBlueDevil said:

The Tigers will be asking for a haul. If Pena isn't included would the following get it done?  Made, Fischer, Pratt, Lara and Drohan are off limits 

- Gasser or Sproat

- Hardin

- Adams or Bitonti

- Williams

-  Payne or Adamczewski

I dislike the cost but Skubal, Miz, Harrison and Drohan would be incredibly tough in the playoffs.

I think that's way too steep for 10 starts of even Skubal.

[nate82]

54 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Do the Cubs even have enough to do an overpay for Skubal? 

Yes they currently have three players in the top 100 according to MLB.  Rojas (63), Hartshorn (74) and Wiggins (88).  Would need to be a combination of the three above plus others.  Brewers could easily beat this but I prefer they don’t.

A Slubal trade would be the only major trade the Cubs would be able to do.  After their first three prospects and really Wiggins is not having a good year there is not much there for the Cubs to trade away.  

[Brewcrew82]

10 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Yes they currently have three players in the top 100 according to MLB.  Rojas (63), Hartshorn (74) and Wiggins (88).  Would need to be a combination of the three above plus others.  Brewers could easily beat this but I prefer they don’t.

A Slubal trade would be the only major trade the Cubs would be able to do.  After their first three prospects and really Wiggins is not having a good year there is not much there for the Cubs to trade away.  

Pipeline's list is outdated. Not much chance Wiggins is currently valued as a top 100 caliber prospect.

For Skubal, they'd have to start with Hartshorn who is really their only blue chip prospect.

Brewers or (more likely) the Dodgers can easily outbid that.