Dumbledore is gay!

[sbrylski]

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I'm a moderate Harry Potter reader - I have read all but #7, seen just one movie (Emma Watson will convince me to see the rest)...anyway...

 

Big shocker to me.

[trwi7]

(Emma Watson will convince me to see the rest)...anyway...

You're such a perv.

 

Just kidding. That's the only reason I would be able to watch Harry Potter for more than 2 minutes.

 

[sbrylski]

Hey, she's almost 18...

 

I'm not that old, she's in my range starting next year...

 

But yeah, I'm probably a perv...

[logan82]

Count me amongst the pervs if all it takes to be a perv is to say a girl is good loking.

[JoeHova]

So Dumbledore joins Gandalf. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[endaround]

And of course Obi-wan

[TooLiveBrew]

Don't even step on that one, end!

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

and of course the TMNT

[bork]

Who? Am I the only person who hasn't gotten into these types of movies (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc). Haven't seen or read any of them.

[hawing]

Bork, it's not just you. Since high school I've tried off and on to develop an interest in the genre - all to no avail. I've accepted that it's just not for me.

[trwi7]

Who? Am I the only person who hasn't gotten into these types of movies (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc). Haven't seen or read any of them.

 

I said in my post that I haven't read any of the books and would only keep the movie on to see Emma Watson.

[Thurston Fluff]

Is there some sort of point to outing a fictional character? I think sometimes characters motivations/personalities in books are better left open ended. It leaves the reader leeway to create his own backstory. Knowing the author's intent isn't always the best way to gain meaning from a story. To me it's like the lyrics of a song or poetry. Take for instance "The Wall by Pink Floyd" was way more meaningful to me before I found out the song was actually derived as a way of portraying the feeling Waters got playing big stadiums. It seemed petty vs the grand meaning I got out of it originally.

[RyDogg66]

Is there some sort of point to outing a fictional character? I think sometimes characters motivations/personalities in books are better left open ended. It leaves the reader leeway to create his own backstory. Knowing the author's intent isn't always the best way to gain meaning from a story. To me it's like the lyrics of a song or poetry. Take for instance "The Wall by Pink Floyd" was way more meaningful to me before I found out the song was actually derived as a way of portraying the feeling Waters got playing big stadiums. It seemed petty vs the grand meaning I got out of it originally.

I dont know, maybe to further develop the character? Nobody ever gets upset when someone reveals that a fictional character gets married at the end of a book or movie, or that a fictional character likes fish and hates peanut butter. Or that the fictional character is scared of the dark, or that they have a foot fetish. But if you 'out' a fictional character, plenty of people will say it is unneeded. My legal assistant came into work today just fuming that Dumbledore was revealed as gay and she said she refuses to believe it and that the author can say or write what she wants, but that doesnt make is so.

Well, actually, if they are the author it kind of does.

 

People say there were 7 books that the author could have 'outed' Dumbledore in, but she never did. Now, I havent read any of the books or seen any of the movies, but I understand that this series is about little kids and demons/wizards/dark lords, etc. Where in there do they get into the other characters sexuality? I doubt they do much. Maybe whenever we introduce a new character, we have to start identifying them as a raging heterosexual, or homosexual?

[Thurston Fluff]

I dont know, maybe to further develop the character?

 

Develope it further for what? The series ended. I don't have a problem with him being gay. I wouldn't have if she had him come out in the book. That would have made some amount of sense. It would even have made a nice way for her to get the point across she claims to have been trying to make with Dumbledor's sexuality. That point is somewhat muted if she wasn't firm enough in her convictions to chance the last book's standing in the series, or indeed the series as a whole, by such information. If she wrote the books with the idea of his sexuality in place to help her create the story and develope the character great. With the popularity of the series and her stature in the genre she had a chance to make a statement but failed.

 

To me it's less about the story line or charcter development than it is getting a little more publicity now that there are no more books to drive sales. What does it do for the story after the fact other than keep an old story in the limelight?

[bjkrautk]

All I know is that there's about 6 books worth of discussions about/between Harry and Dumbledore that are past-due to be reinterpreted out of context.

 

(e.g. Dumbledore's 'flaming' familiar, a phoenix)

[RyDogg66]

I didnt read the books. Is there a lot of/any talk of sexuality in the books? Was she just supposed to have this guy talking to Harry Potter about some curse, and then say, see ya Harry, and by the way, Im gay.

[Principessa21]

I dont know, maybe to further develop the character?

 

Develope it further for what? The series ended. I don't have a problem with him being gay. I wouldn't have if she had him come out in the book. That would have made some amount of sense. It would even have made a nice way for her to get the point across she claims to have been trying to make with Dumbledor's sexuality. That point is somewhat muted if she wasn't firm enough in her convictions to chance the last book's standing in the series, or indeed the series as a whole, by such information. If she wrote the books with the idea of his sexuality in place to help her create the story and develope the character great. With the popularity of the series and her stature in the genre she had a chance to make a statement but failed.

 

To me it's less about the story line or charcter development than it is getting a little more publicity now that there are no more books to drive sales. What does it do for the story after the fact other than keep an old story in the limelight?

Rowling has stated that there was character information she had to cut from the books, and this is one of the reasons why she is writing the encyclopedia. I don't think it's book sales since she already has a gazillion dollars, the story is going to be popular for awhile, and everyone who cares about Harry Potter already owns the books.

 

I've read the books religiously since the second one, and I can honestly say I had no idea. It'll be fun to look for clues when I reread but "the relevation" really doesn't matter when it comes to any of the plots and is just some additional info for the fans.

[BrewCrewForever]

Who? Am I the only person who hasn't gotten into these types of movies (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc). Haven't seen or read any of them.

No your not. I have not seen any or read any of the Harry Potter or Lord of The Rings stuff.

[logan82]

There were really no overt references to anybody's sexuality. Most of the stuff dealt with teenage crushes and other things that worked within the story. For all we know all the teachers at Hogwarts are gay. It never really came up because it wasn't imortant to the story.

[Thurston Fluff]

Rowling has stated that there was character information she had to cut from the books, and this is one of the reasons why she is writing the encyclopedia. I don't think it's book sales since she already has a gazillion dollars, the story is going to be popular for awhile, and everyone who cares about Harry Potter already owns the books.

 

Molitor was rich before he went to Toronto. Barry Bonds was rich before he got his one year contract. A-Rod is expected to opt out of his contract in large part becuase he can get more money if he does. Rich players like Scott Boras because he drains every last penny out of teams. They all have money and want more why should Rowling be any differant? Her book releases coincided with the movie releases for maximum exposure. Those things are nmo coincidental and I don't think this sort of thing is either. Even Gazillionaires like to have more money.

I don't think it's just about money though. It's the limelight, being relevant along with promoting the movie that's coming out. Juicy snippets like that will no doubt boost the encyclopedia sales when it comes out. I don't blame her for it. This is her lifes work and she should be able to cash in every last dollar she can. Commercialism is real and she is no more immune to it than anyone else who's relied on it for their fortune. It's commercially viable to have new information. It's commercially viable to be somewhat controversial at this point. Oterhwise the story gets old. If it's not relevant to the story why bother? If it was relevant why wasn't it in the book? She may have ultruistic reasons for the encyclopedia or outing Dumbldore but it's hard to overlook the financial incentive she has to make such statements now considering the timing of it.

[burniebrewer]

Who? Am I the only person who hasn't gotten into these types of movies (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc). Haven't seen or read any of them.

For the longest time, I thought Harry Potter was a series of stories for kids in the 8-13 range.