Salomon Torres to MIL, Kevin Roberts & Marino Salas to PIT / Latest: Torres WILL report.

[chuckiehacks]

JSOnline has a link to their Brewer Blog with the headline "Brewers trade for Pittsburgh's Torres" but there's no story linked.

 

edit: Here's the Rotoworld Link

[JohnBriggs12]

Saw the same thing.

[chuckiehacks]

rotoworld has it as Torres for Marino Salas and Kevin Roberts

[brewman04]

Yes i read Salas and Roberts going to the Bucs.

Not very sure this is a good deal for a 35 year old Rh when we already have Mota.

Think doug forced this issue

[Brian the Automator]

Neither prospect was on the Power 50. What a deal.

[TooLiveBrew]

Wow! If this is fo' reel, color me impressed.

[DuWayne Steurer]

So, is the plan to just have like, 14 crappy relievers on the team and hope maybe 7 or so turn out ok?

[twobrewers]

Hard not to like.

 

Torres was great in 2004 and 2005. And we give up spare change to get him.

 

Edit: Salas was a waiver wire pick-up as well. So well done on Doug on getting a free player - and trading him for value.

[PrinceFielder28]

What is Torres contract situation?

[Brian the Automator]

He was only crappy last year. The previous 3 years, he was lights out. This is probably one of the better Melvin robberies that I've seen.

[LUKE232323]

My first question would be, "why?"

 

My first comment would be, "he's 35 years old and was awful last season".

[PrinceFielder28]

didn't he close for awhile last year in Pittsburgh? Before Capps took over closer role

[chinabob99]

My first question would be, "why?"

 

My first comment would be, "he's 35 years old and was awful last season".

 

My answer would be: we desperately need relivers and we didn't have to give up anything for him.

 

My response would be, "Buy low, sell high"

[Brian the Automator]

He battled elbow issues last season. That might account for some of the poor performance.

[PilprinBuddha]

Another arm for the pen. Me thinks another trade is about to happen.

[Thurston Fluff]

Talk about selling low. He's had one bad year and they dump something every team looks for in July. Had they simply held onto him and he returned to anywhere near his norm they could have got actual players in return. Even if he didn't return to his norm they couldn't get much less could they?

[DuWayne Steurer]

He was only crappy last year. The previous 3 years, he was lights out. This is probably one of the better Melvin robberies that I've seen.

 

He was crappy last year, could it be coincidentally, after being used in 84, 78, and 94(!!) games the 3 previous years. Coupled with he's 35. Last year was an anomoly compared to the previous 3, but not all that uncommon for a guy his age to decline given his (over)usage. Kinda hard to *predict* a bounceback.

 

[twobrewers]

I agree with Brian. This is just stealing.

 

Contract situation:

07:$2.6M, 08:$3.2M, 09:$3.75M club option ($0.3M buyout)

[DuWayne Steurer]

Yugh. At this rate, the (mediocre) bullpen is going to end up costing more than the starting lineup.

[LUKE232323]

He's had essentially a combined 1.40 WHIP the last 6 seasons. How good/bad is that for a reliever?

[trwi7]

Good buy low move by Doug. If he has a good year this year then we can keep him next year for less than $4 million. If he isn't good then we can just decline his option.

[Brian the Automator]

Yugh. At this rate, the (mediocre) bullpen is going to end up costing more than the starting lineup.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, when you are lucky enough to have possibly 3 guys in the rotation making minimum wage. Torres is way cheap, if you look at what relievers are getting these days.

 

[sveumrules]

great pickup by melvin. veteran bullpen depth for two non factors in the prosepct department? sign me up.

 

36 is hardly old for a reliever, either. isn't shouse like 50?

[JohnBriggs12]

It's going to be one interesting spring sorting through that group in the pen.

 

Roberts may not have been in the Power 50 but his strikeout totals (more than one per inning in his career) and the fact he was a 5th round pick that showed improvement from 06 to 07 means he might have been overlooked.

 

What's troubling is that the Brewers don't ever seem able to develop a guy like Roberts who they invested a pretty high pick on just 2 years ago into a quality reliever. Who was the last Brewer drafted to have any success in a major league bullpen?

[DatHoser]

This is the type of trade that shows why the Crew has become contenders and the Pirates are muddled in mediocrity. We give up virtually nothing to get a guy who could help a lot in the pen.