Mike Cameron

[StearnsFTW]

Scutaro would be absolutely perfect. Good shortstop you can stick in the 2 hole, assuming he can OBP around .350.

 

That lineup you wrote out is my dream at this point, but I seriously doubt we can take on all that payroll. You could get the Red Sox to eat some salary, but then you'd have to give up prospects we don't really have to spare.

 

It'll be interesting to see what Doug does. I'd much rather have Scutaro than Cameron personally, but both would be sweet.

[Warning Track Power]

Just brought this up in the other thread... but... Marco Scutaro and Mike Cameron? I could be wrong, but they're both bench players for the Red Sox now. Maybe that would be a possible deal? I guess I don't know what the Red Sox would want, though. The prospects are becoming thin.

Cameron $7.25MM

Scutaro $5MM + $1.5MM buyout

$4MM to cover some salary

for

Betancourt $4MM + $2MM buyout from KC

 

Not sure if the Red Sox are looking to shed some salary but Cameron and Scutaro equal $12.25MM + $4MM for Betancourt $4MM, they gain $4MM in salary relief. May be worth exploring because Betancourt will be gone after this season and likely so will Cameron and Scutaro from the Red Sox.

 

[Hate those Rodents]

Boston maybe would be interested in Hawkins and Gomez for Cameron and Scutaro. Would that be enough salary savings for them to make a two for two trade is the big question.

[trwi7]

Melvin was on WSSP today and said he "didn't anticipate" going after Cameron.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Melvin was on WSSP today and said he "didn't anticipate" going after Cameron.

In Melvin speak, that means the trade for him will be done within a week. But, in all seriousness, I don't see any chance of us getting Cameron.

[ramssuperbowl99]

Hmmm. Going into the year I was worried about the possible Carlos Gomez black hole going into 2011. Rick Ankiel going to Washington pretty much put the FA market away, and I was thinking I'd have to settle for another year of awesome defense, 3 pitch strikeouts, and annoying bunting from Gomez.

Then I checked on Dickerson more in depth. Bill James, the eternal optimist, projects 300 PAs and a .271/.363/.422 triple slash line, adding up to a wOBA of .354. For the record, that's higher than the Boston Red Sox or New York Yankees team wOBA and a huge upgrade over the Brewers 2010 staff (even with Jim Edmonds incredible line). And would rank tied for 4th among team CF wOBA.

As for our SS problem, as bad as Betancourt is, he projects to produce about as well as Escobar. Would I rather have Edgar Renteria? Sure. Would the 2 marginal wins Renteria provide be huge? Yep. Will our SS be worse than last year? I doubt it.

[LennyBrisco]

I believe on MLBTR recently on of the guys was saying the red soxs were looking or a let handed relief pitcher. Maybe ship Stetter to Boston for cameron.

[Hate those Rodents]

I believe on MLBTR recently on of the guys was saying the red soxs were looking or a let handed relief pitcher. Maybe ship Stetter to Boston for cameron.

This is true. I know they were looking to get Masterson back from Cleveland but were rebuffed.

 

 

[Matt Breen]

I wouldn't be surprised if Scutaro and Cameron could be had for cheap - assuming you took on their contracts. The Sox would probably love to clear $14 million in dead weight. I guess the key is how much more money are the Brewers willing to take on.

[danzig6767]

I wouldn't be surprised if Scutaro and Cameron could be had for cheap - assuming you took on their contracts. The Sox would probably love to clear $14 million in dead weight. I guess the key is how much more money are the Brewers willing to take on.

I could see the Red Sox maybe being willing to shed the contract for Cameron, but after Boston's injury plagued season last year and the bank vault of revenues they have, i can't see any reason they'd be willing to get rid of both, especially Scutaro.

 

The 5 million Scutaro will make this year is near pocket change to Epstein, so why trade a guy like Scutaro who can provide a great option at 2nd/SS in case of any injury and he can give starters at those spots days off to rest without having to put in a cheap scrub type of backup infielder.

 

If Boston had to live in the financial world that many teams have to live in, having a high quality backup infielder who makes 5 million dollars simply wouldn't be feasible, but Boston lives in a near Yankees like financial world. I'd keep Scutaro if i was Epstein unless an offer was made that filled a more pressing need for this years team, not a prospect. Sure prospects matter for a team like Boston, but when they have a need, this offseason clearly showed that Theo can just open the Boston checkbook to fill the need.

[CheezWizHed]

Cameron's age worries me a bit to go for him. If he were a FA and could be signed on the cheap, maybe. But to trade much for him, I'm not too keen on that.

 

But the Scutaro comment made me really interested... Any comments on his defense?

[Kricket755]

I would love a Cameron/Scutaro deal as much as anyone, but under that scenario, who is everyone filling into Boston's lineup at shortstop? Lowrie? As far as I know, Scutaro is the guy in Boston.

[804Sox]

I would love a Cameron/Scutaro deal as much as anyone, but under that scenario, who is everyone filling into Boston's lineup at shortstop? Lowrie? As far as I know, Scutaro is the guy in Boston.

true. I think Scutaro will likely start the year at SS with Lowrie as the Utility player, but wouldn't be surprised to see the roles reversed by midseason. I think the Cameron is more valuable to the Sox than you give him credit for too. Crawford, Drew, and Ortiz all have pretty poor splits against LHP and I could see Cameron getting lots of ABs there (along with D-Mac). Plus, Drew and Ells have potential durability issues (see: 2010)

 

I think Scutaro and Cameron would be a great fit for the Brewers, but unfortunately they fit nicely with the Sox too, who have the unfair ability to invest 13 mil in two bench/platoon players . . . It's possible both could be had cheaply by midseason, though, if Kalish/Reddick comes up to Boston permanently and Navarro is looking good in AAA

[cadillacjosh]

I just honestly don't know what Boston needs from us. But I'd love Camboogie back in the lineup.

[Thurston Fluff]

He's 37 and missed a good portion of last season with injury. While I thought he did a nice job for us when here I can't help but think we got the best he had to offer then and won't come close to that again.

[danzig6767]

Melvin has pretty much ruled out adding a salary like Cameron makes. I heard Doug on the D-List and when asked about Cameron, he said there really wasn't room in the budget to add the 7 million Cameron makes.

[Mr Southpaw]

Boston looks to be dumping some salary. Anybody think they would take Gomez plus something for Cameron at about $4 million.

[logan82]

No, I don't. Wishful thinking.

[razzzorsharp]

http://eye-on-baseball.bl.../entry/22297882/27877688

 

Maybe the Red Sox would give around 5 million with him if they are planning on dumping him anyway (which I doubt).

[The Truth]

Boston looks to be dumping some salary. Anybody think they would take Gomez plus something for Cameron at about $4 million.

Personally, I'd rather have Gomez than Cameron. Cameron is just about done. Gomez is a much much better fielder & base-runner at this point and I'd rather take a gamble on Gomez getting his hitting together than hope and wish that Cameron can staty healthy for a season... Cameron as a #4 OF is a good value (not taking into account salary, just in terms of a roster) and Boston values him there

 

[RockCoCougars]

Boston looks to be dumping some salary. Anybody think they would take Gomez plus something for Cameron at about $4 million.

Personally, I'd rather have Gomez than Cameron. Cameron is just about done. Gomez is a much much better fielder & base-runner at this point and I'd rather take a gamble on Gomez getting his hitting together than hope and wish that Cameron can staty healthy for a season... Cameron as a #4 OF is a good value (not taking into account salary, just in terms of a roster) and Boston values him there

Exactly. I don't want to start a lengthy debate, but I've never understood the man love for Cameron on this board.

[Invader3K]

I still hold out some sliver of hope that this will be the season Gomez puts it all together, finally. This could very well be Cameron's last season, so I think this trade idea would be bad for the Crew.

[logan82]

Cameron at his playing level of 2-3 years ago would be a fantastic fit for our team right now. Cameron right now isn't a good fit.

[JohnBriggs12]

Boston looks to be dumping some salary. Anybody think they would take Gomez plus something for Cameron at about $4 million.

Personally, I'd rather have Gomez than Cameron. Cameron is just about done. Gomez is a much much better fielder & base-runner at this point and I'd rather take a gamble on Gomez getting his hitting together than hope and wish that Cameron can staty healthy for a season... Cameron as a #4 OF is a good value (not taking into account salary, just in terms of a roster) and Boston values him there

Exactly. I don't want to start a lengthy debate, but I've never understood the man love for Cameron on this board.

I'm with you. He may have added some clubhouse presence on what was a young team at the time. As long as he was somewhat productive that's of some value. But he's been overpaid for quite some time based on numbers. He looks to be just about done and this team is full of veterans in their prime. They don't need a 3rd geezer. They already have one graybeard (who may be done too) in Counsell and a well traveled guy in Kotsay.

[CheezWizHed]

I'd love having Cameron on this team, but as a 4th/5th OF (and meaning NO to Kotsay) at a reduced salary. (Braun, Gomez, Hart, Cameron, Boggs/Dickerson)

 

I'd think he would be a great locker room leader: Untuckem'! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif And he still has a pretty good chance at out-producing Gomez, Dickerson and Boggs...

 

ESPN reports that Boston is looking for LH RPs. Betancourt/Stetter for Cameron/Scutaro (Betancourt for salary reasons)? Probably a dream...