Lucroy to Cleveland - LUCROY HAS VETOED THE TRADE

[splitterpfj]

Anybody mind updating the thread for where these guys rank in the Cleveland system and MLB in general? Sure it's already been done, but this thread is moving quickly and I'm trying to make sense of the trade without reading 17 pages!

 

I saw Fangraphs had Mejia at #12 in Cleveland prior to this season. Granted, he's been dominant this season, but that was still surprising to see.

 

I think there are other trades the board has liked (don't we usually have a collective agreement on smaller deals?), and while I'm usually optimistic about these deals, the return here does seem pretty disappointing. But, I'm still at the point where I'll assume Stearns has a better idea of the market and the expected productivity of these players.

 

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=cle

 

6, 12, and 22, with a fringe arm added on - which is very similar to what Cleveland got for Sabathia at the time. Gosh, I wish the Brewers had pushed for the best deal they could get and stuff.

[dlk9s]

I saw Fangraphs had Mejia at #12 in Cleveland prior to this season. Granted, he's been dominant this season, but that was still surprising to see.

 

Not that any of it matters, but MLB.com has him at #5.

[Boomer5]

Where do we rank the new guys in our top 30 now?

[MilwaukeesBest]

Man, any second Hauricourt should be tweeting the Brewers are talking to the Indians involving catcher Johnathan Lucroy.

[MilwaukeesBest]

Per Haudricort, Luc veto'd the trade.

 

Wow.

[brewtank34]

For the fact that we did not get any impact pitching out if this....unacceptable

[FVBrewerFan]

Seems like everyone is taking their frustrations out on Stearns, instead of directing them at the market. Lucroy SHOULD be worth more? No, doesn't work that way. A bat is a luxury down the stretch, pitching is a necessity.

 

I will also pile on the BA rankings that everyone is obsessed with. Those rankings are mostly based on the past. Fun to read, has some value but it is not gospel. Frankly, Stearns has already proven he can identify minor league talent.

[splitterpfj]

If you insist on using someone's list to judge the trade ...

 

Cleveland prospects were 6, 12, and 22 in their system, plus a fringe arm. Sabathia brought Milwaukee's 1, 11, and 24 and a fringe arm.

[trwi7]

Haudricourt just tweeted that Lucroy vetoed the trade.

[berniebrewer4life]

That gomez trade was panned until people realized Hader was a potential stud.

 

At the time the focus was all about phillips and santana

 

Btw, lucroy was never a top 100 prospect himself, which says all you need to know about relying on what number a player is at any point in time.

 

Shoot, I remember discussions on this board about how Angel Salome was the next coming of Carlton Fisk and how it's an outrage that Lucroy.could possibly start over him in AA.

[berniego17]

According to Hadricourt, Lucroy has exercised his no-trade clause.

[Eye Black]

Per Haudricort, Luc veto'd the trade.

 

Wow.

"Deja vu all over again."

[MillerParkSouth]

Unbelievable. Guess he didn't want to play for a contender that much after all. What a disaster.

[Noche]

Omg

[trwi7]

Guess playing for a contender isn't that important like he whined about in the offseason.

[jjgott]

Luc must not think that the Cavs win removed the stink from Cleveland.

[sfl2hnq17]

Well, a lot of people got their wish. Lucroy vetoed this trade. If we don't do any better, there a lot of people who should eat crow. It takes two to trade and if that Cleveland trade was the best that was offered, what could he do? He could've done much, much worse than what Cleveland offered (looking at you Mets).

[yfinn6]

Huh. Interesting turn of events. Now what?!

[Mr Southpaw]

It is officially unacceptable.

[jerichoholicninja]

[sarcasm]Lucroy vetoed because he doesn't think the return was enough. A real team player that guy.[/sarcasm]

[BadgerFan]

Well...for all of those complaining about this deal, you might just get your wish.

 

There must have been a lot of contract negotiations with Lucroy going on at the same time.

[Nader Raider Tim]

Almost went on a profanity laced tirade, then I realized I'm on the kinder gentler Brewerfan.net.

 

Alls I have to say is wowza.

[jjgott]

Lucroy probably figured the Indians prefer Yan Gomes and would be traded again in the offseason. That, or they wouldn't agree to a renegotiation of his contract.

[QuevedosTongue]

[sarcasm]Lucroy vetoed because he doesn't think the return was enough. A real team player that guy.[/sarcasm]

 

That is my favorite post on this thread.

[narwhalattack]

Well, so much for Mejia.