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2017 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-5


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If I had to pick five players that I would bet on to become All-Stars from this draft I would include Hiura. The arm is not a concern for me since the guy is a future 2nd baseman. I think he is going to be a major league extra base hitting machine.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?
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Baseball America:

 

Scouts rank UC Irvine’s Keston Hiura among the top college bats in this year’s draft class. The numbers also assert that he is the best. Hiura produced at a rate, as measured by park-adjusted weighted runs created plus (wRC+), that surpasses all Division I batters.
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Brilliant selection, as I would have expected under Stearns.

 

For those complaining that he doesn't have a position, that's because of his elbow injury this season, which is also why we will be getting the (arguably) best hitter in the draft class at #9 for underslot. It's not because he's a DH/1B-only guy.

 

You take a guy who is ranked lower because of something that ultimately won't matter (his likely TJ surgery), and then use the $ to get another elite guy at our next pick.

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?

Projected to sign for less than slot value which in the case of the Brewers is $4,570,000. So if he signs for under that slot value they can allocate the money towards other selections.

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?

 

All picks are assigned a slot value. If you sign a guy for underslot or less than the value of the slot where he was taken, you can use that saved money on picks later in case a top talent falls further than expected.

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I love this pick---Looks like he has an awesome well developed hit tool and will play middle infield. I'd much rather have this than roll the dice on a high school arm. Great pick
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If you followed the draft thread this spring you should know how much I like Hiura. This is a great pick. Go with the legit tool, Hiura's bat, and worry about where he plays defensively lately. Great, great pick.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?

 

Read the thread "Signing Bonus Tracker" in this forum

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?
Each pick has a slot value for signing bonuses. Players can cut deals with teams so they can get drafted higher. Signing for underslot leaves the team with a bigger portion of their bonus pool which allows them to spread it out more throughout the draft.
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I don't want to over do it here (probably too late), but Hiura looks like a perfect #2 hole hitter in a potent lineup. I think they found a guy who could be a key piece to a very good offensive lineup.
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Go with the legit tool, Hiura's bat, and worry about where he plays defensively lately.

This sentiment plus the "best college hitter"/second baseman thing makes it feel like a combination of the Prince Fielder and Rickie Weeks picks to me. Hopefully it works out similarly.

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?

Projected to sign for less than slot value which in the case of the Brewers is $4,570,000. So if he signs for under that slot value they can allocate the money towards other selections.

 

thank you!

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Sorry for my ignorance, but what does underslot mean?

 

All picks are assigned a slot value. If you sign a guy for underslot or less than the value of the slot where he was taken, you can use that saved money on picks later in case a top talent falls further than expected.

 

thank you!

"I'm sick of runnin' from these wimps!" Ajax - The WARRIORS
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I was hoping for a pitcher but they are such high risk so not too upset. If he goes underslot and that allows us to sign someone later, this will be a great move.

 

Is there a Harold Reynolds filter on my TV? I cant listen to that guy.

 

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Not a fan. Victor Roache fell to us due to injury. Turned out not a good selection. This pick has to net us a better 2nd-10th rd selection above the 2nd or 3rd slot pick value. Like the '14 draft picks
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Roache destroyed his wrist which killed his swing. Not same thing.... he still played & was best hitter in college baseball with his injury

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I've been following this stuff casually, piggybacking on all the smart commentary in this thread. Having taken everything in, Hiura wasn't in the front of my mind -- but looking at him now, he just seems like an obviously good fit for what we need. Maybe I'm just being a homer, but the pick feels right. Two important things: (a) the numbers make pretty clear that the analytics guys are happy, and (b) Patrick loves the pick. That's enough to sell me.

 

I wonder if the organization has developed a firm position of avoiding pitchers in the first round. IIRC many analytic types don't like placing big bets on young pitchers, so it would make sense. I've always hated hs pitchers in the draft, but what do I know?

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I'm now curious which players will slip to the Brewers' next pick. I can't imagine Rogers or Hall falling that far.

Based on the discussion from the previous draft thread (and tip from colbyjack) I think we are banking on Heliot Ramos being available at #34.

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