Brewers Designate Dinelson Lamet, Pedro Severino For Assignment

[trwi7]

4 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

I believe is that the explanation is that Stearns took on the player so SD avoided playing the luxury tax. Stearns is no idiot. He isn't going to acquire a player he really wans and 2 days later realize that he has no room for him. 

So why were we not compensated for taking on money to help the Padres out?

And please don’t tell me Ruiz or Gasser was our compensation for doing it because I’m not buying it and even if it’s true, you don’t make this move now.

[Jim French Stepstool]

6 minutes ago, YelichPosse said:

Makes more sense - explained - but I selfishly still want to see Ruiz up and playing in center daily - see if he is a spark. 

My gut tells me you'll get your wish if he lights up Nashville in the next handful of days. Same can be said for Frelick.

[YelichPosse]

Just now, Jim French Stepstool said:

My gut tells me you'll get your wish if he lights up Nashville in the next handful of days. Same can be said for Frelick.

I’m trying to remain patient and stay excited about the emerging talent we have in AAA (it is very exciting) - I just hope there’s not a spark brought up too late ya know? 

[MVP2110]

I do get the feeling Ruiz will be up in short order(2 weeks or so). It's not uncommon for teams who acquire young players to send them to the minors first to get acclimated with the organization. 

[Playing Catch]

11 minutes ago, Oxy said:

If it was only about Ruiz and Gasser, it seems like this move could have been made in the offseason and we could have kept Hader for the rest of this season's run.  Oh well.  Hopefully Rogers is a stud.

How crazy would it be if internally, the Front Office actually believed Rogers was an upgrade? That isn't possible, right?

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 minutes ago, YelichPosse said:

I’m trying to remain patient and stay excited about the emerging talent we have in AAA (it is very exciting) - I just hope there’s not a spark brought up too late ya know? 

I sense a little more urgency than they usually show. They just jettisoned Severino, and it was obvious they really didn't want to up until now.

[Oxy]

Just now, Playing Catch said:

How crazy would it be if internally, the Front Office actually believed Rogers was an upgrade? That isn't possible, right?

All I can figure is that the bullpen IS more flexible now.  Hader's demanding to only be used in the 9th in save situations was pretty annoying...especially when he has 2-5 games where he completely blows up.  We can't afford that in October.

[Outlander]

I had doubts Lamet could be an effective pitcher anymore and was back from his injury and I guess that is the case. More of a NBA type trade where they get a guy and released the next day just to even money out. Agree, that it would have been nice to get another prospect since the Brewer knew they were going to eat money.

[folly412]

Hiura should never have been sent down to maintain the three catcher shenanigans.

Lamet should never have been acquired. If "balance" was required, we could have just picked up part of Hader's salary.  That Lamet was active and in uniform while Bush was at the park and inactive last night just makes Stearns look silly. 

These two things have now been corrected with these moves, but sheesh.

[Playing Catch]

I wonder if the Brewers did everything they could to make sure the Padres would get Soto so that the Cardinals wouldn't.

[brooks_quichenick]

24 minutes ago, homer said:

I have scratched a new bald spot on my noggin.

Here here. Confounding stuff from the front office.

[Axman59]

Brewers helping other teams shed payroll while sending one of the elite relievers in the game out the door.  What the (bleep)?

Why do I even root for this team? I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick a football held by Lucy.

 

[patrickgpe]

19 minutes ago, trwi7 said:

So why were we not compensated for taking on money to help the Padres out?

And please don’t tell me Ruiz or Gasser was our compensation for doing it because I’m not buying it and even if it’s true, you don’t make this move now.

i have no idea. Maybe thats what he had to do to make the deal and thats the best offer he got. We weren't in the room. I just don't think Stearns is a dummy who got played so badly and forgot how many open roster spots he had. 

 

[SeaBass]

What color is the confused font?

Seriously though, I felt like I understood a lot of the complaining even though I was actually fine with every move but this is inexplicable. Lamet has talent, I really felt they'd make an effort to try him out for a while.

[CheeseheadInQC]

I thought it was fairly common knowledge Lamet was included for the financials. I figured the Brewers might take a week or two look, see if there is anything there they could recapture, but this isn't exactly a shocker here. 

[StearnsFTW]

51 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Being a Brewer fan has been rough over the last 48 hours.

I was pretty damn happy 24 hours ago.  But since then, yeah.  Not great.

 

[Hopper]

46 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

I think some people here need to take a break from this team. Lamet is not a long term fix on this team. Why he was included and then DFA'd. I don't know and I don't care. He is not a player in any long term plans or probably had very little short term plans. Just the bashing of Stearns on everything he does has just been a lot. 

There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with questioning David Stearns.  Why people get so bent out of shape when he gets questioned, or criticized is beyond me.  He is not God.

[monty57]

This might be going out on a limb, but maybe the Brewers like the prospects we got back, and maybe they put more into evaluating them than simply doing a quick scan of BA’s Top 100 list. 
 

The difference between Rogers and Hader for less than half a season is negligible. Sterns values six years of Ruiz and Gasser as being more valuable than one year of Hader, so much so that he was willing to eat a $5M “negative value” salary to make the deal happen. 
 

Also, we needed some payroll relief for next year, and we now get the roughly $15M we would have spent on Hader to use elsewhere. 
 

Stearns’ knowledge of these guys is far more than mine, so I am very excited to have Ruiz and Gasser in the system. My only real question in this whole thing is “why isn’t Ruiz in Milwaukee?” I want to see this kid play and Davis shouldn’t be holding him back. 

[LouisEly]

It's very likely that they needed Lamet as an emergency bullpen guy yesterday in case the game went well into extra innings so that they could wait and activate Peralta today.  They may also have wanted to see him in a side session in person before crystalizing their decision to DFA him.

[Hopper]

So let me get this straight.  Lament, one of the pieces in the Hader deal has been DFA'd.  

This is a horrible look for the organization from the average fan's point of view.  There will be negative blowback on this, that you can count on.

Just adds to the disappointment of the deadline deals in my opinion.

[YelichPosse]

4 minutes ago, monty57 said:

This might be going out on a limb, but maybe the Brewers like the prospects we got back, and maybe they put more into evaluating them than simply doing a quick scan of BA’s Top 100 list. 
 

The difference between Rogers and Hader for less than half a season is negligible. Sterns values six years of Ruiz and Gasser as being more valuable than one year of Hader, so much so that he was willing to eat a $5M “negative value” salary to make the deal happen. 
 

Also, we needed some payroll relief for next year, and we now get the roughly $15M we would have spent on Hader to use elsewhere. 
 

Stearns’ knowledge of these guys is far more than mine, so I am very excited to have Ruiz and Gasser in the system. My only real question in this whole thing is “why isn’t Ruiz in Milwaukee?” I want to see this kid play and Davis shouldn’t be holding him back. 

This is a more levelheaded way of saying what I am feeling. Thank you. I'll put my pitchfork down for now.

[rickh150]

57 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

I think some people here need to take a break from this team. Lamet is not a long term fix on this team. Why he was included and then DFA'd. I don't know and I don't care. He is not a player in any long term plans or probably had very little short term plans. Just the bashing of Stearns on everything he does has just been a lot. 

Lamet is costing them what, 1.7 mil REGARDLESS if he plays here or not! Cutting him did what for us? We are on the hook for this money. Why in the world do we not play him? We could have put Suter down. He has options.  Like someone else said on a different post, we have like 10 bullpen guys for 5 “open” spots. Fake injuries could be called on again.

 

[Playing Catch]

12 minutes ago, monty57 said:

My only real question in this whole thing is “why isn’t Ruiz in Milwaukee?” I want to see this kid play and Davis shouldn’t be holding him back.

Davis does look like an all-world defender in CF, who happens to have had a terrific year hitting in Nashville, and is hitting well in Milwaukee (albeit w/o any power).

I'm as excited about Ruiz as everyone, but I don't think we should be in such a rush to send Davis down.

[LouisEly]

5 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Lamet is costing them what, 1.7 mil REGARDLESS if he plays here or not! Cutting him did what for us? We are on the hook for this money. Why in the world do we not play him? We could have put Suter down. He has options.  Like someone else said on a different post, we have like 10 bullpen guys for 5 “open” spots. Fake injuries could be called on again.

 

1) I think the point is that it's only $1.7M, not $4.775. 

B) Suter has five years of service time so he can't be sent down.  He had 4 years and 161 days of service time at the beginning of the season.

Or did you really mean "put down"...

[LouisEly]

3 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Davis does look like an all-world defender in CF, who happens to have had a terrific year hitting in Nashville, and is hitting well in Milwaukee (albeit w/o any power).

I'm as excited about Ruiz as everyone, but I don't think we should be in such a rush to send Davis down.

Davis is out of options and cannot be sent down without exposing him to waivers.