Too Early 2023 Ideas (or beyond)

[jay87shot]

Out there/different trade ideas. Don't kill me on these, just bored on black Friday.

Chourio and Ruiz (and maybe a starter like Houser) to Ray's for Randy Arozereana, Tyler Glasnow, and Yandy Diaz

Burnes to Mets for Jeff McNeil, David Peterson, and a prospect

Lauer for Danny Jansen

1) DH Yeli 2) 1B Diaz 3) 3B McNeil 4) LF Arozereana 5) SS Wily 6)2B Wong 7)CF Frelich 8) C Jansen 9)RF Mitchell

Woody, Glasgow, Peralta, Peterson, Ashby

It would also leave Taylor, Rowdy, and Urias to pick up a bullpen arms or prospects. 

Again I wouldnt probably do either of these deals but it would drastically improve our lineup and leave our rotation strength in check. After next year I would trade Glasnow (1/23.5) and figure out the messier extend McNeil, Adames, Woody, Diaz situation.

[Robocaller]

Trade with the Mets is a huge overpayment (BTV site).
Trade with the Rays is a significant underpayment.

Trade with Jays is a huge underpayment.

 

 

[umphrey]

I didn’t want to start a new thread but I was wondering why there wasn’t talk about signing JD Martinez? He seems like the last FA hitter out there that would really impact the offense and isn’t completely out of our price range. 

[RWeeksFan23]

19 minutes ago, umphrey said:

I didn’t want to start a new thread but I was wondering why there wasn’t talk about signing JD Martinez? He seems like the last FA hitter out there that would really impact the offense and isn’t completely out of our price range. 

he sucked last year, especially in the second half of the season

[Brewcrew82]

On 11/25/2022 at 7:25 AM, jay87shot said:

Out there/different trade ideas. Don't kill me on these, just bored on black Friday.

Chourio and Ruiz (and maybe a starter like Houser) to Ray's for Randy Arozereana, Tyler Glasnow, and Yandy Diaz

Burnes to Mets for Jeff McNeil, David Peterson, and a prospect

Lauer for Danny Jansen

1) DH Yeli 2) 1B Diaz 3) 3B McNeil 4) LF Arozereana 5) SS Wily 6)2B Wong 7)CF Frelich 8) C Jansen 9)RF Mitchell

Woody, Glasgow, Peralta, Peterson, Ashby

It would also leave Taylor, Rowdy, and Urias to pick up a bullpen arms or prospects. 

Again I wouldnt probably do either of these deals but it would drastically improve our lineup and leave our rotation strength in check. After next year I would trade Glasnow (1/23.5) and figure out the messier extend McNeil, Adames, Woody, Diaz situation.

That trade with the Rays is how you completely wreck a franchise....

[umphrey]

1 hour ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

he sucked last year, especially in the second half of the season

119 WRc+ is an upgrade for us. He finished with .277/.333/.504 in his last 154 PAs. If he was as good as he used to be, he would be too expensive. 

[jay87shot]

On 11/25/2022 at 9:57 PM, Robocaller said:

Trade with the Mets is a huge overpayment (BTV site).
Trade with the Rays is a significant underpayment.

Trade with Jays is a huge underpayment.

 

 

I get the Mets and Rays trades are out there and wonky.

But like a month ago Jansen and Lauer were both like a 14 on that btv site. Not sure how that is wrong.

[DR28]

Since we traded for Trevor Rosenthal at the deadline and got nothing out of him, I would like to resign him for 2023 and see what he gives us... We acquired him for a reason.

Would give us a pretty nice pen:

Williams

Rosenthal

Bush

Strzelecki

Guerra

Milner

Cousins

Houser

[DR28]

Been thinking about RF lately, I dont see us landing Haniger... Too bad but I think he'll be out of our price range.

Wouldnt mind Robbie Grossman instead, he's a switch hitter so can play every day... Has power and takes walks... Not Renfroe power but good power.

 

Also would like to add Brian Anderson and Christian Vazquez, trade Wong to save money to be able to afford Grossman, Anderson and Vazquez.

Yelich - DH

Frelick - LF

Adames - SS

Tellez - 1B

Grossman - RF

Anderson - 3B

Urias/Turang - 2B

Vazquez - C

Mitchell - CF

^ is definitely a lineup that can win a lot of games!

[Robocaller]

3 hours ago, DR28 said:

Wouldnt mind Robbie Grossman instead, he's a switch hitter so can play every day... Has power and takes walks... Not Renfroe power but good power.

He shouldn't be playing every day since he's not good vs. RHP (for a corner OF).  And he's not great in the field. I'd rather have Ruiz on the team than him.

[DR28]

41 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

He shouldn't be playing every day since he's not good vs. RHP (for a corner OF).  And he's not great in the field. I'd rather have Ruiz on the team than him.

Sigh...... Ur right... Man I dont see another decent OF that would be in our price range.

[Hopper]

4 hours ago, DR28 said:

Been thinking about RF lately, I dont see us landing Haniger... Too bad but I think he'll be out of our price range.

 

That dude is hurt a lot, I mean A LOT!  If we could get him for 2 years at 4 million, maybe so, but as much as he is on the field, it would have to be a very cheap, incentive laden contract for me to have any interest at all.

[nate82]

1 hour ago, DR28 said:

Sigh...... Ur right... Man I dont see another decent OF that would be in our price range.

Gallo should be in the Brewers price range.  He could be a good buy low type of a player.  Duvall could be another buy low option if he is healthy that is. 

[DR28]

37 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Gallo should be in the Brewers price range.  He could be a good buy low type of a player.  Duvall could be another buy low option if he is healthy that is. 

I thought about Duvall but man the dude K's a ton and doesnt draw walks.

[Scooterfletcher]

Why not just go Mitchell Frelick Ruiz and Yelich in the of ?

[Robocaller]

7 hours ago, DR28 said:

Sigh...... Ur right... Man I dont see another decent OF that would be in our price range.

You mustn't have gotten the memo. Everyone here is supposed to disagree with me.  :-)

 

[Robocaller]

3 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Why not just go Mitchell Frelick Ruiz and Yelich in the of ?

Because Taylor is still on the team.

 

[Robocaller]

6 hours ago, Hopper said:

That dude is hurt a lot, I mean A LOT!  If we could get him for 2 years at 4 million, maybe so, but as much as he is on the field, it would have to be a very cheap, incentive laden contract for me to have any interest at all.

I think the only way he signs with the Brewers is if he realizes a one-year contract to prove he's healthy is the way to go. Which will only happen if he doesn't get decent multi-year offers.

[DR28]

I've come around on Adam Duvall, basically same hitter as Renfroe... K's a lot, doesnt walk, ton of power.

Yea I'll take Duvall as our RF.

[Robocaller]

3 hours ago, DR28 said:

I've come around on Adam Duvall, basically same hitter as Renfroe... K's a lot, doesnt walk, ton of power.

Yea I'll take Duvall as our RF.

maybe a poor man's Renfroe, and he's trending badly.  And he's not a RF.

 

[DR28]

35 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

maybe a poor man's Renfroe, and he's trending badly.  And he's not a RF.

 

He’s not? He plays all 3 OF spots.

[Robocaller]

28 minutes ago, DR28 said:

He’s not? He plays all 3 OF spots.

13% of his time at RF,

73% as LF

For comparison, Yelich has played 16% of his time as a RF.

[jay87shot]

I wouldn't mind taking a stab on Gallo as a 4th OF/back 1B/DH (maybe even a rare 3B start)however the team would be getting very left handed especially with Turang, Mitchell, and Frelich. Gallo would likely be a guy I would give a smaller offer to with a lot of incentives. 

That being said it probably is smarter to just keep TT as a 4th OF and use the money in the pen.

[jay87shot]

I know inter-division trades are almost impossible especially for contending teams but the Cards would be an intersting trade canidate for Burnes or Woody. I want to make this clear, I would not myself as a gm do any big time moves with the cards, just making ideas.

Woody for Nolan Gorman, Gordan Graffeco or Tink Hence, and Jake Walsh or Freddy Pacheco.

We would get a high end mlb 3B, potential top of the rotation arm, and a young contollable big arm reliever. The cards wouldn't loose much with Gorman because he is so blocked and still have a few high end young arms. If the trade was Burnes instead maybe add in another prospect or younger big league player. I am sure Adames to the cards would be equally interesting or close in value, probably a slightly less valuable prospect than Graffeco or Hence like Matthew Liberatore, Cooper Hjerpe, or Michael McCreevy.

 

[Hopper]

Please don't start the Gallo talks again.  I was so happy we were not in on him at the deadline last year.

He just isn't a guy we should want anything to do with.