Opening Day Roster

[Outlander]

Hard to believe it is likely that Anderson will playing a lot of RF and Turang 2B when Anderson has played 3B and Turang SS in Spring Training. When Urias wasn't at the WBC I believe he was pretty much always 2B as well. Not a fan of Naquin either but probably more wishful thinking he doesn't make the team.

[Ro Mueller]

This is not looking likely, but the Prospect Promotion Incentive would be enough for me to put Frelick on the Opening Day roster, knowing we’d option him for 2 weeks at some point in the season to gain the extra year of control.

[TURBO]

I only want Frelick on the OD roster if he plays every single day.  No 2-3 starts per week, and a few pinch hit opportunities.  He needs to be playing daily to make it worth having him up.

I'm for him starting full time on OD.

[Robocaller]

9 minutes ago, TURBO said:

I only want Frelick on the OD roster if he plays every single day.  No 2-3 starts per week, and a few pinch hit opportunities.  He needs to be playing daily to make it worth having him up.

I'm for him starting full time on OD.

Even if Taylor was healthy, I don't think we'd have any EVERY day outfielder (Yelich will play some DH, I think).  They could have Yelich and 3 three other guys who get around 500 plate appearances in the year.

 

[Ro Mueller]

17 minutes ago, TURBO said:

I only want Frelick on the OD roster if he plays every single day.  No 2-3 starts per week, and a few pinch hit opportunities.  He needs to be playing daily to make it worth having him up.

I'm for him starting full time on OD.

I’m sure we’d play him regularly if he’s hitting like we know he can. The main decision would be whether we go with Frelick in RF (Mitchell in CF) against righties OR shift Mitchell’s stronger arm to RF.

[Lathund]

18 hours ago, Outlander said:

Hard to believe it is likely that Anderson will playing a lot of RF and Turang 2B when Anderson has played 3B and Turang SS in Spring Training. When Urias wasn't at the WBC I believe he was pretty much always 2B as well. Not a fan of Naquin either but probably more wishful thinking he doesn't make the team.

With Toro, Adames, Tellez and Urias at the WBC, I don't think we should read too much into who plays where in ST as some of it is by necessity at this point. Turng is the only 26 man roster-adjacent SS around right now. Service time considerations could well keep Turang down, but I think him on the roster makes for the best team as it stands. 

[DR28]

1 hour ago, Lathund said:

With Toro, Adames, Tellez and Urias at the WBC, I don't think we should read too much into who plays where in ST as some of it is by necessity at this point. Turng is the only 26 man roster-adjacent SS around right now. Service time considerations could well keep Turang down, but I think him on the roster makes for the best team as it stands. 

Even before WBC tho, Anderson only played 3B and Urias only at 2B.

[Jastro]

Wiemer has a shot to make the opening day roster per Counsell 

[MVP2110]

58 minutes ago, Jastro said:

Wiemer has a shot to make the opening day roster per Counsell 

Guessing they are weighing him vs Naquin who hasn't been great this spring. I'd still be pretty surprised if they started his service clock that early but maybe they think they can earn that extra draft pick

[Brewcrew82]

26 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

Guessing they are weighing him vs Naquin who hasn't been great this spring. I'd still be pretty surprised if they started his service clock that early but maybe they think they can earn that extra draft pick

Wiemer is actually ineligible for the prospect promotion incentive as he only made Pipeline’s top 100 and not BA’s or ESPN’s (need at least 2/3). 

I still think Frelick, who is eligible for the PPI and is much safer offensively, is more likely to end up on the OD roster, particularly after his performance in the WBC.

[igor67]

That is potentially frustrating for Weimer, and makes me think the rule needs to be adjusted. No one player is particularly likely to win or finish high in ROY voting, but it's not like any respectable player evaluator could act like Weimer came out of nowhere if he put together an awesome campaign. Too many prior tools and prior production for that.

[MVP2110]

Something I have been thinking through lately, specifically with hitters, let's say they only hold the prospect group(Frelick, Wiemer, Turang) down for the 2 weeks to gain that extra year of control. What would our roster look like a month into the season when Taylor comes back?

C: Contreras

1b: Rowdy

2b: Turang

SS: Adames

3b Urias

LF: Yelich

CF: Mitchell

RF: Wiemer

DH: Winker

Bench:

Caritini, Frelick, Taylor, Anderson?

Cutting guys like Voit, Brosseau, etc. gets pretty difficult if we are fully healthy

 

[Outlander]

My answer to that is that rookie group isn't all going to be up at the same time. That is why I want them to have Felick or Weimer on the OD roster because it is very easy to option them at some point during the year when the team is fully healthy. It is smart to keep depth for the long season.

[MVP2110]

6 hours ago, Outlander said:

My answer to that is that rookie group isn't all going to be up at the same time. That is why I want them to have Felick or Weimer on the OD roster because it is very easy to option them at some point during the year when the team is fully healthy. It is smart to keep depth for the long season.

Even if it isn't right away it's reasonable to expect all 3 to be up at somepoint this season 

[TURBO]

2 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

Even if it isn't right away it's reasonable to expect all 3 to be up at somepoint this season 

...and Chourio in 2024 if not sooner.

That OF is going to get really crowded if Yelich doesn't move to 1B or full time DH.

I'm almost wondering if one of Mitchell, Wiemer and Frelick get traded next off season.

[MVP2110]

Just now, TURBO said:

...and Chourio in 2024 if not sooner.

That OF is going to get really crowded if Yelich doesn't move to 1B or full time DH.

I'm almost wondering if one of Mitchell, Wiemer and Frelick get traded next off season.

I feel like Taylor is likely getting dealt soon either midseason or next offseason. 

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, MVP2110 said:

I feel like Taylor is likely getting dealt soon either midseason or next offseason. 

Yeah, he is a goner at some point, but even after he leaves, there isn't room for everyone...

[MVP2110]

56 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Yeah, he is a goner at some point, but even after he leaves, there isn't room for everyone...

I think for next season it's possible Yelich moves into the Cutch/Winker role of primarily being a DH 

[jay87shot]

Yeli to DH in 2024 makes way to much sense. The 3 young guys in the OF and utility guys like Miller would be enough to cover the OF.  Maybe a potential Yeli trade next year if something would make sense.

I like the idea of Frelick making the OD roster. Him in CF and Mitchell in RF. If he is playing well keep him up and go for Rookie of the Year, if not send him down for a bit when Taylor is healthy and gain the extra year. 

I think Couns saying Weimer has a chance is a bit strategy. Naquin and Perkins haven't been great but Weimer hasn't been so great it would be worth taking up a 40 man spot and using some of his service time.

I am still not counting out a Huira for Ramon Laureano type trade.

[Redd Vencher]

There was an average of 2,676 PA for OF and DH per team last year. You can get 500+ PA for 5 guys across those 4 postions. The perceived log jam doesn't exist.

[ecjimg]

9 minutes ago, Redd Vencher said:

There was an average of 2,676 PA for OF and DH per team last year. You can get 500+ PA for 5 guys across those 4 postions. The perceived log jam doesn't exist.

Except no one is talking about Winker playing the OF. So its 3 positions.

[Redd Vencher]

14 minutes ago, ecjimg said:

Except no one is talking about Winker playing the OF. So its 3 positions.

There's talk of trading the OF prospects in the futuree because of a logjam. Winker is a FA in the offseason.

[ecjimg]

1 hour ago, Redd Vencher said:

There's talk of trading the OF prospects in the future because of a logjam. Winker is a FA in the offseason.

True. Although this thread is about the 2023 opening day roster.  Regarding discussion for later  next season, Yelich, Mitchell, Frelick, Weimer, Taylor and Chourio is 6 OF.  I still think one has to go (Taylor).

[edfunderburk]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

I am still not counting out a Huira for Ramon Laureano type trade.

This is too good to be true

I can’t see Oakland making that trade

Milwaukee would jump all over that opportunity 

I would be thrilled … it appears one-sided & unlikely 

[nate82]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

I am still not counting out a Huira for Ramon Laureano type trade.

Unlikely.  I think the A's will try and rebuild Laureano's value before they trade him so I don't see them trading him until the trade deadline. 

The A's and Angels make the most sense and I would expect a AAA reliever as the highest return value for Hiura you may get a good lottery ticket in the lower minors for him.  Right now in spring training Hiura looks exactly like he has the past couple of years which is very useless as he K's way too much to be productive.  I am not sure a team even claims him if the Brewers DFA him.