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Fear The Chorizo
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Now expecting a Yamamoto deal with LAD for about $400m over 8 years, but $392m deferred and he gets a spare key to Ohtani's place so Ohtani can claim him as a dependent for tax purposes.

tmwiese55
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I used Keven Mench in that spot.  Don't think it was as low as .07.   I'll never forget the night they traded for him and he showed up in the dugout midgame and on TV they made it out like it was the

wiguy94
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Very doubtful. Burnes and Adames are WAY more valuable than Glasnow and Margot. I don't think BTV is an exact science but it generally does pretty good job. They have Burnes and Adames worth almost $3

jerichoholicninja Wilson Warbirds

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For some reason I was looking up Joey Votto's stats and I had always figured he was a lock for the Hall of Fame but I was surprised by how unimpressive his counting stats are for a guy who's played as long as he has and in a hitters park. He's probably not going to get to 400 homeruns and not come anywhere close to even 2500 hits. The rate stats are probably Hall of Fame worthy and he an an MVP so maybe he gets in.

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3 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

For some reason I was looking up Joey Votto's stats and I had always figured he was a lock for the Hall of Fame but I was surprised by how unimpressive his counting stats are for a guy who's played as long as he has and in a hitters park. He's probably not going to get to 400 homeruns and not come anywhere close to even 2500 hits. The rate stats are probably Hall of Fame worthy and he an an MVP so maybe he gets in.

Think we talked about him a year or two back on this topic, around when he had that revival good season I think in 2021.   You're right, him taking a zillion walks is what keeps the counting stuff down but modern baseball people now know walks are a good thing so that should be factored in.    I thought that one more good big season might've been enough to get him over and it game life to thinking he could have another 1-2 more good years to tack on some counting stats.  But, since then 2022/23 have been trash for him so now he's unlikely to have another good stat year.  So it probably leaves him right on the edge, but my guess is the MVP will get him in eventually.  That 1-2 more season to get him to around 400 and 2500 hits would have been big for him though

MrTPlush Biloxi Shuckers

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3 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

For some reason I was looking up Joey Votto's stats and I had always figured he was a lock for the Hall of Fame but I was surprised by how unimpressive his counting stats are for a guy who's played as long as he has and in a hitters park. He's probably not going to get to 400 homeruns and not come anywhere close to even 2500 hits. The rate stats are probably Hall of Fame worthy and he an an MVP so maybe he gets in.

65 WAR, an MVP, multiple other high MVP finishes, long career that was productive till the end pretty much...he should get in without much concern. He was always considered on of the best hitters in his generation during his prime. He has six Top 10 MVP finishes...pretty darn impressive. 

I always found him a little overrated...but he was a complete player. His ability to get on base was admittedly incredible and in today's game essentially not done. 

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wiguy94 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers

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49 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

His final numbers are probably going to look pretty similar to Todd Helton's and he was a handful of votes from getting in this year so if/when Todd gets in I think that would seal it for Votto.

Helton has Coors working against him though and Votto has an MVP.

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2 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Helton has Coors working against him though and Votto has an MVP.

Helton's prime years were also the late 90s early 00s. Something voters have definitely held against some guys.

wiguy94 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers

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Just now, MrTPlush said:

Helton's prime years were also the late 90s early 00s. Something voters have definitely held against some guys.

Especially with him playing at Coors in that time. The average batting line at Coors in the late 90's was insane. HoF level hitting splits being the average hitter splits there.

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Man, bummer about Rasmussen. He has been pretty nails since we dealt him for Adames with 250 IP of 70 ERA- | 78 FIP- shaking out to 7.2 rWAR | 5.6 fWAR for Tampa.

For context, that is pretty much the same kind of production we’ve gotten from Freddy since 2021 at 263 IP of 75 ERA- | 75 FIP- shaking out to 7.4 rWAR | 6.8 fWAR.

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I just noticed Drew Rasmussen was put on the 60 day DL due to a flexor strain. If he needs surgery it'd be his third. IIRC the Brewers decided to convert to to a relief role because he had two already. When I heard the Rays put him in the rotation I thought that might come back to haunt them. I guess it is. Pity, dude is a stud.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.
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I hadn’t noticed the Miami Marlins with equal or better record than Mets, Phillies and Padres through 50 games.

With Sandy Alcantara’s ERA hovering around 5.

Mets, Phillies and Padres combine for $ 836 million in payroll.

 

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wiguy94 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers

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58 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

I hadn’t noticed the Miami Marlins with equal or better record than Mets, Phillies and Padres through 50 games.

With Sandy Alcantara’s ERA hovering around 5.

Mets, Phillies and Padres combine for $ 836 million in payroll.

 

Absolutely shocked that building a starting rotation with ages 30, 34, 36, 38, 40 has resulted in a rotation that's dealt with a ton of injuries. I mean pitchers already get injured enough but having a gigantic payroll with an intended SP group with an average age of 35/36 was absolute madness.

RWeeksFan23 Draft Eligible

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17 hours ago, Frisbee Slider said:

I hadn’t noticed the Miami Marlins with equal or better record than Mets, Phillies and Padres through 50 games.

With Sandy Alcantara’s ERA hovering around 5.

Mets, Phillies and Padres combine for $ 836 million in payroll.

 

Wow, I didn't know that either.

That's crazy.

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