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Grichuk and CJ Cron for Keston, JC Mejia/Peter Strezlecki, and Gregory Barrios

We take on cash and get to potential better bats, the Rockies get 2 higher potential mlb ready guys who can audition this year and a lotto type prospect.

Jeimer Candelario for Logan Henderson and Tyrone Taylor

Henderson is a steep price to pay for a rental but Candelarii fits our needs well.

C)Contreras 1B)Cron 2B) Montesario SS) Adames 3B) Candy LF) Yeli CF) Weimer/Frelick (send Weimer down for a couple weeks to get extra season of control and give Frelick a look) RF)Grichuk DH)rotate (eventually Rowdy)

Bench) Miller, Anderson, Caratini, Perkins/Tapia, Turang/Peyton Henry/Alex Jackson

That really lengthens out the offense and allows for CC to still have lots of matchup options. Maybe bring a 3rd catcher up so Caratini can play more. No more .200 hitters in the middle of the order. Willy could drop down to 6.

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On 7/20/2023 at 7:03 PM, Brewcrew82 said:

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I really hope the Brewers’ GM is burning up the phone lines to get Soto, the trade evaluator website says the Brewers are giving up too much here (a pitcher who gives up too many homers and has a major shoulder injury, a CFer who can’t stay healthy, and a middle infielder who can’t hit MLB pitching) but I’d be so excited to get Soto throwing in Lutz seems worth it!

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12 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Grichuk and CJ Cron for Keston, JC Mejia/Peter Strezlecki, and Gregory Barrios

We take on cash and get to potential better bats, the Rockies get 2 higher potential mlb ready guys who can audition this year and a lotto type prospect.

Jeimer Candelario for Logan Henderson and Tyrone Taylor

Henderson is a steep price to pay for a rental but Candelarii fits our needs well.

I think it will cost more to acquire both Grichuk and Cron.  Keston probably has negative value right now.  He's just a throw in change of scenery guy.  Mejia has little value and is likely seen as AAAA relief.  Strzlecki has talent but he is struggling in AAA.  His value is at its lowest at this point.  Barrios is hitting 600 OPS at low A.  He has promise but generally lotto tickets need to be doing well to be traded.

I could see Colorado having an interest in Huira so we can keep him, but I think you would need to swap in Guilarte/Moore/O'Rae.  And probably looking at Jarvis as the pitcher (or Woessner/Jimenez type).  This still might be light.

 

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5 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

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I really hope the Brewers’ GM is burning up the phone lines to get Soto, the trade evaluator website says the Brewers are giving up too much here (a pitcher who gives up too many homers and has a major shoulder injury, a CFer who can’t stay healthy, and a middle infielder who can’t hit MLB pitching) but I’d be so excited to get Soto throwing in Lutz seems worth it!

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5 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

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I really hope the Brewers’ GM is burning up the phone lines to get Soto, the trade evaluator website says the Brewers are giving up too much here (a pitcher who gives up too many homers and has a major shoulder injury, a CFer who can’t stay healthy, and a middle infielder who can’t hit MLB pitching) but I’d be so excited to get Soto throwing in Lutz seems worth it!

 

5 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

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I really hope the Brewers’ GM is burning up the phone lines to get Soto, the trade evaluator website says the Brewers are giving up too much here (a pitcher who gives up too many homers and has a major shoulder injury, a CFer who can’t stay healthy, and a middle infielder who can’t hit MLB pitching) but I’d be so excited to get Soto throwing in Lutz seems worth it!

It would cost the Brewers approx. $9.5M for the remainder of this year.  Milwaukee would look to trade him in the off season or be on the hook for probably about $26M next year. That's money that can be better spent trying to extend Woodruff or Adames or going towards a FA next year. 

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34 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Yep. You should roll your eyes at yourself for using that joke of a website, not me. 

Where did I post I used that site for this trade?

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9 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

 

It would cost the Brewers approx. $9.5M for the remainder of this year.  Milwaukee would look to trade him in the off season or be on the hook for probably about $26M next year. That's money that can be better spent trying to extend Woodruff or Adames or going towards a FA next year. 

If the Brewers could pull that garbage deal off I'm guessing they'd be thrilled to pay Soto $26 next year.

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I'm on board with Jeimer Candelerio and/or Cody Bellinger. 

Yelich LF

Contreras C

Bellinger 1B

Candelerio 3B

Tellez DH

Adames SS

Frelick RF

Owen Miller/Brice Turang 2B

Wiemer CF

That could potentially take us deep into the postseason with Corbin/Woody/Freddy (the good version) and our bullpen. We almost certainly wouldn't have to part with Chourio, Mis, or Quero.

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CJ Cron numbers are pretty bad this year and he’s playing in COL. I think COL would send him our way if we just asked nicely and took his contract.  I was going to post about how I don’t even want him but then I remembered how awful our 1B/DH have been and decided a consistent 80 wRC+ from Cron sounds kind of ok. 

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Ethan Small is going to get you a rental RP at best on his own.  Used up 2 option years now already. And based on his stats in the majors and minor league WHIP, a team acquiring him should assume they got 1 season more to use him as a RP.  

Hiura has no options. Teams already passed on that. 

Let's keep these 2 names out of any trade proposal. In no world are you looking to acquire the two while trading away say Victor Caratini off this team.  That's the best example I got of the level of player the Brewers are realistically adding to this team.

If they were going to pull off a significant move, history shows they do it earlier and not last minute.

 

The way this team was built, I feel they expected to sell off Winker/Anderson/&Tellez with possibly Urias/Houser.  Only all but Houser, created negative value, and Houser's isn't all too much. All the ML guys thought expendable have been awful, while most of a top 10 team prospects have earned values beyond using in trades.  

I'd wonder on what #3 SP with 1+yrs control is out there who you pawn off Houser and Robert Gasser to.  Woodruff/Miley/Ashby uncertainties along with Peralta's continued below expectation season. Finding Someone's SP who's just not quite ToR material but better than Houser making around similar but bigger next year.  I don't know. Just saying I'd think the team uses Gasser in a trade for SP.

 

I looked. This SP doesn't exist among teams with 48wins or less.  Obviously above this threshold teams are in the running to be buyers.

This will be the worst trade deadline ever across MLB.

 

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I do agree that there could be some value in Houser for a contender but will be hard to get an offensive contributer to help now in return from a contender.

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10 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

 

This will be the worst trade deadline ever across MLB.

 

In general i agree, however if Ohtani gets traded it would make up for a lot.  I could see prices for slightly above average players being crazy high. There are some players like Goldschmidt, Hader, Snell, Bieber, Bednar, Scherzer, Verlander, and other who could make it interesting. 

The problem is there is very little depth, when out top target is someone like Candelario there is very little depth. On top of that, there are like 8 teams who need bats (plural) and maybe half a dozen truly solid good trade candidates.

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Would Josh Bell be a trade candidate? He has a 16 million dollar player option for next year that I would assume he will pick up at this point. He is a little better defensively than Rowdy and would be a decent boost at DH. My guess would be that he would cost very little in the way of prospects for a lower salary team like the Guardians. With guys like Lauer, Urias, Rowdy, Taylor possibly not being tendered and some FA's Caratini, Anderson, Miley, Winker we should be able to afford him next year (not to mention a possible trade of the big 3).

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Brent Suter, LHP, Rockies
Suter has had an outstanding season for the Rockies, posting a 2.62 ERA in 33 appearances. The 33-year-old is owed about $1 million as he enters free agency, ranking in the top three percent of the league in average exit velocity, hard-hit percentage and barrel percentage, repeatedly showing the ability to induce soft contact. Suter has actually been better against righties (.510 OPS) than lefties (.726 OPS), allowing one home run to each over 181 total batters faced.
Potential fits: Blue Jays, Rays, Reds

 

 MLB's analysis of Suter @clancyphile

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13 hours ago, jay87shot said:

In general i agree, however if Ohtani gets traded it would make up for a lot.  I could see prices for slightly above average players being crazy high. There are some players like Goldschmidt, Hader, Snell, Bieber, Bednar, Scherzer, Verlander, and other who could make it interesting. 

The problem is there is very little depth, when out top target is someone like Candelario there is very little depth. On top of that, there are like 8 teams who need bats (plural) and maybe half a dozen truly solid good trade candidates.

Yeah boring outside of what is given to acquire Ohtani.

San Diego has the 3rd best run differential in the NL. Sit 6 games back. Having arguably the best closer in Hader.  They have very good reasons to be the team to bring in Ohtani. With prospect package to offer.  So you mention a few names they could sell, but why not them buying Ohtani? Talk about star studded team moving ahead. I'd be a fan of the move just to see how close they would get to winning the division, much less earning a WC spot.

Bieber is out til September 10th at the earliest and tbh elbow inflammation with that kind of push back is likely delaying TJ in hopes someway not to be.

Verlander/Scherzer those are big contracts to work around on top I imagine no trade refusal rights?  

Goldschmidt would be 1 helluva sought after trade I'll give you that. Do the Cardinals know how to sell around the deadline? It feels they'd be breaking one of their unwritten rules. They've only finished 1 season this century below .500. I'd imagine Goldy has refusal rights too.

Like MLBTR not giving a big update to this top 50 list yet shows how little the excitement will be in trades.

 

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