Is Quero Our Top Prospect?

[Robocaller]

He's been having a great season in Biloxi for a 20 y.o. 

 

[jay87shot]

No but he should be top 50 or so in mlb. In my opinion 

1. Chourio top 5

2-4 Quero, Frelick Misiorowski around top 50 

5-7 Black, Lara, Wilken End of top 100/Borderline

[RWeeksFan23]

He might be. I know it isn't Chourio. Chourio's been overrated for a while now.

[wibadgers23]

No but I think he’s closer to overtaking Chourio than people think. 

[TURBO]

We are going to have a problem at catcher in the near future.  With Quero knocking on the door probably next season (after all star break or late season call up), and Contreras locked in for another 4 years, there won't be room for two quality catchers.  With Yelich moving to DH (it's going to happen sooner or later) my fear is that we will try and get cute and trade Quero, only because there just won't be room for two top notch catchers.

[homer]

He's a year and a half older than Chourio so I'll still give Jackson the edge.

[TURBO]

This is how I see it happening.

2024, in a late August or early September call up, Quero becomes our number two catcher.  Still have 3 years left on the Contreras contract.

2025, Contreras remains our starting catcher, but Quero steals a couple games per week, and occasionally is used in the DH role if his bat plays like I think it will.  after 2025, 2 years left on the Contreras contract, 5 left on Quero.  There won't be a lot of room for DH at bats since Yelich should start to see some regular at bats at DH due to the fact our outfield is full of youth! (Mitchell, Wiemer, Frelick, and Chourio) 

2026, With Quero more than ready to handle the full catcher load (and 5 years left of control), Contreras is dealt in the off season with 2 years left on his contract.  They could still hold both catchers (dealing Contreras at the deadline rather than the off season) but there just won't be room for their at bats since Yelich will be close to full time DHing at this point, and our outfield jammed with talent, there won't be a lot of at bats left at DH for one of our two slugging catchers.

Of course, these are just my thoughts, and I'm going to guess we will be trading one of our outfielders not named Chourio at some point before the logjam really takes effect.

[Joseph Zarr]

One could very easily make this argument. 

I think another worthwhile question to ask is:

How does the MLB Pipeline updated Top 100 list have Frelick at 18...and then Quero at 75, Misiorowski at 89, and Black at 100. Ummmmm, no. Just not even taking the list seriously at this point.
 

[wibadgers23]

1 minute ago, Joseph Zarr said:

One could very easily make this argument. 

I think another worthwhile question to ask is:

How does the MLB Pipeline updated Top 100 list have Frelick at 18...and then Quero at 75, Misiorowski at 89, and Black at 100. Ummmmm, no. Just not even taking the list seriously at this point.
 

Yeah I’m a big Frelick guy but that ranking is too high for him and Quero is too low. You could almost just flip flop them.

[ARobsBrewCrew]

3 hours ago, TURBO said:

We are going to have a problem at catcher in the near future.  With Quero knocking on the door probably next season (after all star break or late season call up), and Contreras locked in for another 4 years, there won't be room for two quality catchers.  With Yelich moving to DH (it's going to happen sooner or later) my fear is that we will try and get cute and trade Quero, only because there just won't be room for two top notch catchers.

Quero isn’t going anywhere unless something changes dramatically.

[Brewcrew82]

No. He's one and a half years older than Chourio. And Chourio's tools are better.

The notion that Chourio is somehow overrated is ridiculous. He's a 19 year old in AA. Literally the only one. Jordan Walker, for example, was a year older than Chourio is now when he was in AA last year. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

49 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

One could very easily make this argument. 

I think another worthwhile question to ask is:

How does the MLB Pipeline updated Top 100 list have Frelick at 18...and then Quero at 75, Misiorowski at 89, and Black at 100. Ummmmm, no. Just not even taking the list seriously at this point.
 

Feels like they're too slow to drop prospects they've previously elevated, and because of that there's no room to elevate prospects who deserve to be much higher - especially when they tend to try and give every organization at least 1 or 2 prospects in that top 100.

Misiorowski at 89 is about as bad as Quero at 75...and Black has done plenty offensively at the AA level to be rated in the top 75 even with defensive question marks.

[umphrey]

I was leaning Quero but didn’t want to say it 😂

I don’t know if Wiemer still qualifies, if so he would be in the running for me. The power/speed/defense at the MLB level really gives him a leg up compared to AA players. 

[CheezWizHed]

Do remember that the biggest jump is still to come for all of these players - the one to the MLB level.  Top 100 ratings are great but the failure rate is also pretty high for the top 100, too.

I'll worry about Quero/Contreras or even Chorio+Wiemer/Yelly/Mitchell/Frelick when they start producing at the MLB level.  

Having "too much talent" at one position is never a problem.  It is a blessing.  Between injuries, failing to live up to rankings, trades... much can happen between then and now. 

[Robocaller]

6 hours ago, TURBO said:

2025, Contreras remains our starting catcher, but Quero steals a couple games per week, and occasionally is used in the DH role if his bat plays like I think it will. 

If either of them gets games as DH, it will mostly be Contreras.

[Robocaller]

4 hours ago, Joseph Zarr said:

One could very easily make this argument. 

I think another worthwhile question to ask is:

How does the MLB Pipeline updated Top 100 list have Frelick at 18...and then Quero at 75, Misiorowski at 89, and Black at 100. Ummmmm, no. Just not even taking the list seriously at this point.
 

Frelick is obviously still riding on his 2022 performance, which was exceptional. 
the other guys should be 5-25 slots higher.

[Robocaller]

2 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Do remember that the biggest jump is still to come for all of these players - the one to the MLB level.  

The jump to AA is a pretty big jump. MANY prospects stall there. Chourio is doing well there, considering his age, but Quero has stepped up his performance, changing his trajectory to a rocket.

[wallus]

No one ever questioned the defense of Quero so you knew he would be a MLB backup as a floor. If how he is hitting now is what he will develop into, he is a top 10 prospect in MLB. With all of that said, Chourio is the better prospect based on age but both are some of the better prospects we've had.

[jay87shot]

5 hours ago, Joseph Zarr said:

One could very easily make this argument. 

I think another worthwhile question to ask is:

How does the MLB Pipeline updated Top 100 list have Frelick at 18...and then Quero at 75, Misiorowski at 89, and Black at 100. Ummmmm, no. Just not even taking the list seriously at this point.
 

Mlb hasn't re-ranked prospects since the beginning of the year. When guys graduate they just move everyone up 1 spot and add new guys in like Quero and Misi who weren't in the ranking. I am sure when reranked Frelick goes down a bunch and Quero and Misi jump. Chourio probably falls a bit but my guess is not out of the top 10. 

Chourio's tools still will keep him above Quero. Chourio is still on pace for nearly 20/40 at 19.  

[TURBO]

4 hours ago, ARobsBrewCrew said:

Quero isn’t going anywhere unless something changes dramatically.

I hope you are right, but like I said, we won't have room for two great catchers, one is going to have to go at some point.  I'm not trading Quero, nope, not me, but what will the Brewers do?

[Jenkins5]

I do find it interesting on how many people have lost some faith in Chourio. I know he is simply holding his own vs. tearing up in AA but honestly, how many 19 year olds in the past couple of decades have at that age? The talent is there.

 

Misiorowski very well could be in top 20 in season end rankings. He’s taking the Chourio type leap. The hype at future game from all national media scouts shows. 
 

They are 1a & 1b imo 

Right after them Quero, Black, Frelick are all pretty close in my eyes. All really depends on your personal preference. I go Sal, Quero, Black

[Fear The Chorizo]

Misiorowski is the type of arm talent that if he keeps honing a repeatable delivery and avoids injury, he's never going to be considered a top prospect because he'll be pitching in the major leagues before too long.

Scouting services always have to throw a dozen or so players just drafted into these top 100 lists soon with zero professional experience, too - where you are ranked has less to do with longterm MLB ability compared to tools/talent, and timing.

[Jim French Stepstool]

Quero & Contreras eventually bumping into each other isn't a problem--or, it's the type of problem you pray for. If they overlap for a substantial amount of time my guess is the DH spot would be the accomodation as I wouldn't be surprised if Yelich winds up at 1B. 

As for the original question, no I wouldn't put Quero ahead of Chourio. But for my money he's just as untouchable. To have as much on your plate as a young catcher does & be as good as he is defensively and offensively, while playing in AA at age 20, is just nuts.

[Matt Breen]

6 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Mlb hasn't re-ranked prospects since the beginning of the year. When guys graduate they just move everyone up 1 spot and add new guys in like Quero and Misi who weren't in the ranking. I am sure when reranked Frelick goes down a bunch and Quero and Misi jump. Chourio probably falls a bit but my guess is not out of the top 10. 

Chourio's tools still will keep him above Quero. Chourio is still on pace for nearly 20/40 at 19.  

This. It's not like they go in each week and re-rank stuff. They usually do a mid-season update - after that draft. So I expect some shifting to happen soon.

[Playing Catch]

I love Quero because his floor keeps going up. Above average defense, burgeoning power. As a player that can contribute positive WAR in MLB, he's becoming closer to "can't miss". But he's not the same type of prospect as a lot of other catching prospects. His pedigree isn't necessarily with the bat (though his performance this year may be changing that a little bit).

IMHO, the quality of a farm system lies in its ability to churn out big-leaguers, not all-stars. This is a quality farm system.