Possible January Signings

[Mr Southpaw]

What should the Brewers do this month to boost their roster?  Here is what I think...

Carlos Santana     $7-10 million

Julio Trahan          $4-5 million

That takes their roster to about $120 million.  Any thoughts?

[SF70]

23 minutes ago, Mr Southpaw said:

What should the Brewers do this month to boost their roster?  Here is what I think...

Carlos Santana     $7-10 million

Julio Trahan          $4-5 million

That takes their roster to about $120 million.  Any thoughts?

Santana yes.

Teheran no. They don’t need another non-Optionable #5/6 starter. They go 7 deep before they get to McKendry, who I’d like to see given an opportunity over a Teheran.

Peralta-Burnes-Miley-Gasser-Rea-Ross-Ashby-McKendry.

[wibadgers23]

We’re halfway through January with very little movement in free agency. You could have probably titled this “February Signings.” That said, I’d be looking at Hoskins or Santana. Don’t think they’ll be looking at pitching.

[sveumrules]

Assuming guys like Bellinger, Chapman and Soler are out of our price range in terms of dollars/years, my tiers would probably be something like…

Prolly Still a Dream
Hoskins, Joc

More Realistic
Santana, Belt, Turner, JDM, Urshela

Please No
Ji-Man, Vogelbach, Cooper

Would also be fine with a guy like Ryu or Paxton on a one year deal for additional SP depth if the Brewers think they could eke a little last something out of them.

[Mr Southpaw]

Peralta-Burnes-Miley-Gasser-Rea-Ross-Ashby-McKendry.

I am not loving (trusting) anything past Miley.  Julio pitched really well, when asked, last year and a few million would be a conservative investment in this year's starting staff. 

[SF70]

45 minutes ago, Mr Southpaw said:

Peralta-Burnes-Miley-Gasser-Rea-Ross-Ashby-McKendry.

I am not loving (trusting) anything past Miley.  Julio pitched really well, when asked, last year and a few million would be a conservative investment in this year's starting staff. 

Teheran is projected (Steamer) to have a worse ERA than all of the pitchers I listed. 

[Mr Southpaw]

Projections are fine and dandy, but it does not mean a thing until you play.  A 3.83 era over 12 years makes me like his chances.  I doubt he will be worse than last year's 4.40 era.  Gasser, for example, has a 3.90 era in 31 starts at AAA.  I just don't trust that he will be a great number 4 pitcher, he just has not proven that yet.  I hope he does, but until so, I would rather have a proven yet older arm for insurance.

[Lathund]

20 hours ago, Mr Southpaw said:

Projections are fine and dandy, but it does not mean a thing until you play.  A 3.83 era over 12 years makes me like his chances.  I doubt he will be worse than last year's 4.40 era.  Gasser, for example, has a 3.90 era in 31 starts at AAA.  I just don't trust that he will be a great number 4 pitcher, he just has not proven that yet.  I hope he does, but until so, I would rather have a proven yet older arm for insurance.

Most of that shiny ERA from Teheran came when he was significantly younger and his fastball 3-4 mph faster. All of his peripherals points to the great defense and/or randomness keeping that ERA where it was. Not someone you want on a major league deal. 

You might want to check what the run environment in AAA was last year, it was significantly higher than MLB, with the generally hitter-friendly environment combined with various experimentation with automated ball-strike systems. So 3.90 ERA would've made him one of the very best starters there. 

Having insurance is nice for sure, but paying Teheran $5m aint the way. 

[Lloyd330]

if you really want Julio to be in your rotation, you might as well sit this season out. 

 

[brewmann04]

lets see its Mid Jan time for the Crew to get busy  and add some players

[Glenn Braggs Bat]

I think that the brewers front office will not be willing to open up the checkbook for mostly overpriced multi year veterans this season.  They do typically wait late into the free agent season, but with the lack of overall movement they will be competing with other higher budget teams that are entering competitive windows. They may bring in a $5-10 million veteran to fill a corner position.  Then play out 1st half and reassess their situation, before trading away Burnes and Adames.  These offseason are getting long and boring and heavily affect offseason trade options.  Every team seems to be in a holding pattern, which is awful for perspective trades.

[bigred]

2 hours ago, brewmann04 said:

lets see its Mid Jan time for the Crew to get busy  and add some players

But I would not suggest that we hold our breath waiting for that to happen. (In blue). 🤣

[TURBO]

2 hours ago, Glenn Braggs Bat said:

I think that the brewers front office will not be willing to open up the checkbook for mostly overpriced multi year veterans this season.  They do typically wait late into the free agent season, but with the lack of overall movement they will be competing with other higher budget teams that are entering competitive windows. They may bring in a $5-10 million veteran to fill a corner position.  Then play out 1st half and reassess their situation, before trading away Burnes and Adames.  These offseason are getting long and boring and heavily affect offseason trade options.  Every team seems to be in a holding pattern, which is awful for perspective trades.

Only one way we trade Burnes at the deadline, and that is if we are 100% out of the playoff hunt.  This is my opinion of course.

People keep posting to trade him at the deadline, but I don't see any way that happens if we are still competing.

[Fear The Chorizo]

12 hours ago, TURBO said:

Only one way we trade Burnes at the deadline, and that is if we are 100% out of the playoff hunt.  This is my opinion of course.

People keep posting to trade him at the deadline, but I don't see any way that happens if we are still competing.

Agreed - and that is actually just fine in my book to wind up getting as much of Burnes' best years of pitching as a Brewer before he spends all of next winter as a free agent before signing halfway into 2025 spring training with a different team.  If the Brewers are in contention this season, the value of having one more shot to make a postseason run with Burnes anchoring the rotation coupled with QO draft pick compensation is pretty significant, and worth more than a deadline trade package for a couple month rental....and frankly it's worth more IMO than a trade package received this offseason for Burnes, too.

Many will be upset he wasn't traded this offseason, or even last offseason to try and stockpile more prospects - but then will neglect that would mean the MLB club would have suffered because of it during a window where the division has been there for the Brewers to win.

[Soupy]

It’s a legitimate argument that we will compete for the division title with our team as it is right now. But we’ve proven we are not winning the WS with this group. That’s why many advocate, including me, trading and regrouping around the next core. 

[markedman5]

 

[DR28]

Read an article that doesnt sound like Santana will be a Brewer in 2024... Guess we don't want to meet his asking price.

[brewerfan82]

2 minutes ago, DR28 said:

Read an article that doesnt sound like Santana will be a Brewer in 2024... Guess we don't want to meet his asking price.

link?

[DR28]

14 minutes ago, brewerfan82 said:

link?

https://wisportsheroics.com/milwaukee-brewers-carlos-santana-contract-news-notes-rumors/

[brewerfan82]

26 minutes ago, DR28 said:

https://wisportsheroics.com/milwaukee-brewers-carlos-santana-contract-news-notes-rumors/

Thanks!

The article admits it's speculation from "MLB insiders", but if Santana is asking for too much currently, that takes away some of the concern that someone else is just going to scoop him up while we wait to see if something better comes along first. Although if the article's speculation that the Brewers want to pay less at first base regardless (hence the Cooper talk), that doesn't bode well for the Hoskins possibility either.

Hopefully this just indicates Santana is asking for more than they're willing to pay for him specifically and that Hoskins for a bit more would still be a possibility. Make a push for Hoskins and then check back in on Santana if it doesn't work out!

[DR28]

Sounds like we seriously pursued Aroldis Chapman before he signed with the Pirates.... According to Robert Murray fansided article.

[Lloyd330]

i saw something that we are like $20 mil under what we were last year - See if Jordan Montgomery could be had for a 2/$50 with opt out after 2024

[sveumrules]

5 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

i saw something that we are like $20 mil under what we were last year - See if Jordan Montgomery could be had for a 2/$50 with opt out after 2024

Not sure where people are getting this from.

Last year was $119M on Opening Day and $126M at the end of the season.

Roster Resource currently has them at $122M, Cot's at $120M, Spotrac at $105M but no Hoskins on their ledger yet.

[Lloyd330]

If we are really going to go for it. Why not go after Whit Merrifield for 2b and then Urshella for 3b

Sal

Yelich

Contreras

Hoskins

Urshela

Adames

Chourio

Merrifield

Mitchell

 

 

[brewmann04]

Did Whit have a down year last season and he  going to  be 36