2024 NFL Discussion Thread

[homer]

This made me laugh

[GAME05]

So Tom Grossi does six hours of livestream on Sunday, has an "If the NFL were Scripted" skit ready for Monday morning which probably takes forever to script and edit, does a podcast on Monday and also has a "team reaction" video out Sunday evening or by Monday morning. Does he just not sleep?

[SeaBass]

16 hours ago, GAME05 said:

So Tom Grossi does six hours of livestream on Sunday, has an "If the NFL were Scripted" skit ready for Monday morning which probably takes forever to script and edit, does a podcast on Monday and also has a "team reaction" video out Sunday evening or by Monday morning. Does he just not sleep?

He livestreams every prime time game every week, so he did Thursday, Friday, two games on Sunday, and Monday night's game. Plus "fan reaction" videos where he does scripted fake reactions as if he were a fan of certain teams, such as a Ravens fan when the toe out of bounds thing happened, recaps of Packers games, Plus other livestreams where he collaborates with other NFL YouTubers and many other videos as storylines present themselves.

Dude is a busy guy and a hard worker. But it's brought him so much success and recognition, he won the 2023 NFL Fan of the Year last year (you may know this but others may not), he raised over $500K for charity last year during his 30 stadiums in 30 days tour and regularly does other fundraisers. That got him noticed and he was a guest on the Rich Eisen Show, had an appearance on the NFL Total Access and ultimately culminated in his win of NFL FoY. Lotta respect for him.

I'm not like a super fan of his or anything, I don't watch every video he puts up, definitely don't watch all the livestreams but I check in pretty regularly to watch his scripted videos because they're entertaining and his Packers content because it's informative and or interesting just to get his take on things. He's just a fan like us, he just has a platform where it earns him a living.

[HarryDoyle]

Tom is the hardest working man in show business.

[adambr2]

Tua with yet another concussion. 

I know the Packers get heat for not paying more attention to their backup QB position, but the Dolphins' starting QBs' career is constantly hanging in the balance due to his concussion history, and their backup QB is Skylar Thompson. 

[yourout]

On 9/10/2024 at 12:18 PM, homer said:

This made me laugh

Looks like a Rhys Hoskins spray chart

[CheezWizHed]

4 hours ago, yourout said:

Looks like a Rhys Hoskins spray chart

I wish Rhys had that many "incompletions"!

[GAME05]

I hope Tua retires for his own sake. Go on IR for the rest of the year to secure the big paycheck and the Dolphins can trade for Kirk Cousins.

[Team Canada]

Or just don't put your head down and slide.

[HarryDoyle]

New Orleans is turning into the greatest show on turf.

[homer]

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

New Orleans is turning into the greatest show on turf.

that's what happens when you get rid of your dinosaur OC

[HarryDoyle]

Bo Nix is comically bad.  

[HarryDoyle]

Who had Cardinals 34 Rams 3 on their bingo card?

[adambr2]

Sean Payton is so overrated. He's really getting exposed. 

[Underachiever]

Bengals have started 0-2 for the sixth time in 8 seasons. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

On 9/12/2024 at 2:34 PM, HarryDoyle said:

Tom is the hardest working man in show business.

I'm not going to hate on the guy's ethic because he is churning out a superhuman amount of content. 

I find him painfully unfunny though. His takes and Packers recaps are fine if not insightful, but the fan reaction stuff and whenever he's being "funny" I just think is cringe. 

He seems like a genuinely good guy though. 

[yourout]

The bears uniforms are seriously ugly.

[adambr2]

This is a dumb challenge, as I would expect from the Bears. There's two instances in the process where the ground helped him make the catch as the ball touched the turf. 

[adambr2]

The punter for the Texans blows. 

[CheezWizHed]

1 hour ago, yourout said:

The bears uniforms are seriously ugly.

Ironically, wearing blaze orange in Chicago doesn't actually help prevent getting shot.😉

[BrewerFan]

On 9/9/2024 at 9:15 PM, HarryDoyle said:

 

The 49ers have 4-5 SB wins over the last ~20 years...if they draft Rodgers AND he develops into just 80% of the QB he was with GB.

[BrewerFan]

On 9/9/2024 at 9:23 PM, Fear The Chorizo said:

Meh...not making proclamations in week 1 in today's NFL.  There will be another team or two that have something to say about that inevitability.

NFL now is kind of a "Wake me up when it's november" to know who's good and who's healthy enough to make a run.

Yeah, WAY too premature. They're obviously good teams. The Packers were controlling the 49ers game. They were hardly overwhelmed physically. 

On 9/9/2024 at 9:19 PM, yourout said:

Unless they get bit by the injury bug they will be in the NFC championship again.

Eagles are at least as physical as the Lions and probably the 49ers. 

The "injury" bug is too big. It's too vague. Is McCaffery, Hufanga, two really good players, is that the injury bug?

Every team will be missing starters. They're already missing Greenlaw all year. 

[CheezWizHed]

2 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

The 49ers have 4-5 SB wins over the last ~20 years...if they draft Rodgers AND he develops into just 80% of the QB he was with GB.

It is an easy statement to say since no one can disprove it... But team dynamics and drafting changes so much with such a key player.  Does he get along with the HC and players?  Does his salary impact the 49ers cap to the point where they have to let others go?  Maybe Rodgers was/is a caustic person that didn't help the lockeroom at all? 

A butterfly flaps its wings...

As much as we bemoan not winning more SBs with Favre & Rodgers, very few QBs have won multiple in that span.  Winning a SB is hard. 

 

[BrewerFan]

41 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

It is an easy statement to say since no one can disprove it... But team dynamics and drafting changes so much with such a key player.  Does he get along with the HC and players?  Does his salary impact the 49ers cap to the point where they have to let others go?  Maybe Rodgers was/is a caustic person that didn't help the lockeroom at all? 

A butterfly flaps its wings...

As much as we bemoan not winning more SBs with Favre & Rodgers, very few QBs have won multiple in that span.  Winning a SB is hard. 

 

Ok...of course not, it's not an absolute, but I think it's a pretty fair argument.

If the Bears take Aaron Rodgers, they probably win 10 division titles or...whatever.

Even if SF had just made the trade a few years ago, I think they've got 2-3 SBs.

You have an MVP season, Trent, Deebo, Ayiuk, CMac, the same team...and you give up what you gave up for Micah. 

 

The point is just because lost with the Packers when the 49ers were a more physical and just tougher team than GB, I don't think that disproves the statement Rodgers made about they'll be more sorry they didn't pick him than we will. 

They've invested so much into the QB position to basically get a solid starter and surrounded that guy with talent for 15 years now. From Harbaugh to the '19-'23 seasons.

 

The strongest argument against it is just...Aaron Rodgers may have been a bust in SF. Not to go back to this dead horse, but he looked awful early in GB and we had the coaching, namely Clements, who revamped everything and made him a great QB.

 

But take the version of Aaron Rodgers we've seen, throw him on SF and they'd have a Chefs-like run if not a NE type run. Especially in the Shanahan era. 

I still think he's gotten insufferable, but I'm just talking about his on-field play.

Surely we can see it's likely they win at least a couple if we'd have traded him when he initially requested a trade after his 3rd MVP season. The Rams-not as good as SF, they won one when Stafford came to LA. 

[CheezWizHed]

1 hour ago, BrewerFan said:

Ok...of course not, it's not an absolute, but I think it's a pretty fair argument.

If the Bears take Aaron Rodgers, they probably win 10 division titles or...whatever.

Even if SF had just made the trade a few years ago, I think they've got 2-3 SBs.

You have an MVP season, Trent, Deebo, Ayiuk, CMac, the same team...and you give up what you gave up for Micah. 

 

The point is just because lost with the Packers when the 49ers were a more physical and just tougher team than GB, I don't think that disproves the statement Rodgers made about they'll be more sorry they didn't pick him than we will. 

They've invested so much into the QB position to basically get a solid starter and surrounded that guy with talent for 15 years now. From Harbaugh to the '19-'23 seasons.

 

The strongest argument against it is just...Aaron Rodgers may have been a bust in SF. Not to go back to this dead horse, but he looked awful early in GB and we had the coaching, namely Clements, who revamped everything and made him a great QB.

 

But take the version of Aaron Rodgers we've seen, throw him on SF and they'd have a Chefs-like run if not a NE type run. Especially in the Shanahan era. 

I still think he's gotten insufferable, but I'm just talking about his on-field play.

Surely we can see it's likely they win at least a couple if we'd have traded him when he initially requested a trade after his 3rd MVP season. The Rams-not as good as SF, they won one when Stafford came to LA. 

I think the only thing definite is that if the Bears took him, he would've been a QB bust. 😂

I think a players success is very dependent on the situation and coaching he gets.  Favre without Holmgren makes him ?? Rodgers without Clement working with him makes him ??

I think there are few players that just succeed anywhere and everywhere. Certainly Rodgers is better than many QBs out there... but often the differentiator between the very good and the HOF is the situation he is put in (IMO).