Brewers (Civale) vs Dodgers (Glasnow): 7/5/24, 9:10pm

[treego14]

1 minute ago, BCF said:

5 IP, 8 K is bad? 2 of the runs were on a very catchable ball 

I guess I don't agree that homerun was very catchable.  Regardless, it was very hard contact.

[LouisEly]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

At least he's not the 8th inning guy anymore.

Interesting dilemma on that role.  When Devin comes back, do you move him back to closer?  Or does he get Wally Pipp-ed for Megill and get the 8th?

Williams last year: 13.3 K/9, 4.3 BB/9, 0.6 HR/9
Megill this year: 10.2 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, 0.3 HR/9

[BCF]

Glasnow must be trash. He gave up 5 runs in 5 innings! 

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, BCF said:

5 IP, 8 K is bad? 2 of the runs were on a very catchable ball 

Three home runs in five innings is not good, I don't care how far those home runs got out of the park, Wall scraper home runs happen all the time.

[Brian]

1 minute ago, patrickgpe said:

I think Civale is done. He basically was who we thought he was. Not the greatest debut but it was on the road against the dodgers, so I look forward to see what he can do at home next week. 

He will probably throw a 3 hitter against the Cubs.

[BCF]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

Three home runs in five innings is not good, I don't care how far those home runs got out of the park, Wall scraper home runs happen all the time.

I guess you must think Glasnow is trash 

[82brewcrew82]

12 minutes ago, BCF said:

Glasnow must be trash. He gave up 5 runs in 5 innings! 

LMAO, because those two have the same pedigree.

[BruisedCrew]

They’re trying to make a point about teams going directly from Colorado to LA and being 12-22 in their first games. They’re saying that playing at Coors destroys the  bullpen and that’s why teams do,so poorly.

Considering how good the Dodgers have been, 12-22 probably isn’t significantly worse than opponents overall record there. 

[BCF]

1 minute ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

LMAO, because those two have the same pedigree.

Civale was one of the better pitchers in the AL two years ago before he got traded to the Rays 

[82brewcrew82]

Just now, BCF said:

Civale was one of the better pitchers in the AL two years ago before he got traded to the Rays 

Glasnow IS one of the best pitchers in the game.  Full stop.

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, BCF said:

I guess you must think Glasnow is trash 

No. Glasnow is a proven solid starting pitcher over nine seasons. Civale has been mediocre is entire career, and sub par this season.

[LouisEly]

1 minute ago, BruisedCrew said:

They’re trying to make a point about teams going directly from Colorado to LA and being 12-22 in their first games. They’re saying that playing at Coors destroys the  bullpen and that’s why teams do,so poorly.

I don't know about destroying the bullpen, but you can go to very different environments.  In Denver the air is thin and dry, and as such breaking balls don't break as much because there isn't as much humidity in the air to cause friction with the baseball to make it break.  So you have to pitch differently and focus more on changing speeds.  In LA, if you get the marine layer rolling in at night the air can get very thick and you're basically not much higher than sea level.  You're going from thin, dry air at 5000 feet to thick air at 500 feet.

[BruisedCrew]

5 minutes ago, treego14 said:

I guess I don't agree that homerun was very catchable.  Regardless, it was very hard contact.

I agree with you. That was more of a line drive over his head than the kind of towering fly that lets a fielder get back to the fence to make the catch.

In a normal park that would be a double crashing off the wall and you wouldn’t be thinking it should have been caught. 

[Brian]

Civale did pretty good and left with the lead.  He gave up too many HR's but Murphy was smart.   He let Freddy Peralta stay in Milw. and not go to Colorado.

[liveforoctober]

I mean, they said Contreras and Civale didn't even have a bullpen session together yet before this start.

I'm going to say something potentially shocking here... but can we give the guy more than 100 pitches to a new catcher/team before we stamp him as "He basically was who we thought he was"? 

Is that too crazy?

[BCF]

3 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Glasnow IS one of the best pitchers in the game.  Full stop.

Glasnow career ERA/WHIP: 3.78/1.16

Civale career ERA/WHIP: 4.10/1.20

 

Not that much of a difference 

[yourout]

I seriously doubt five runs is going to win this one.

[Brewcrew82]

13 minutes ago, BCF said:

5 IP, 8 K is bad? 2 of the runs were on a very catchable ball 

That two run home run was not a "very catchable ball". 

[kevinisaname]

1 minute ago, liveforoctober said:

I mean, they said Contreras and Civale didn't even have a bullpen session together yet before this start.

I'm going to say something potentially shocking here... but can we give the guy more than 100 pitches to a new catcher/team before we stamp him as "He basically was who we thought he was"? 

Is that too crazy?

Yeah, I think we're being a little too harsh on a guy that just got here. I am concerned about the sweeper, but I'm not ready to call him a bust or anything.

[ecjimg]

Why did Glasnow get to throw to 1st base twice during Hoskin’s AB??

[82brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, liveforoctober said:

I mean, they said Contreras and Civale didn't even have a bullpen session together yet before this start.

I'm going to say something potentially shocking here... but can we give the guy more than 100 pitches to a new catcher/team before we stamp him as "He basically was who we thought he was"? 

Is that too crazy?

Not at all.  Just not impressed to this point.  Let's get him a start at home and go from there.

[BruisedCrew]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

I don't know about destroying the bullpen, but you can go to very different environments.  In Denver the air is thin and dry, and as such breaking balls don't break as much because there isn't as much humidity in the air to cause friction with the baseball to make it break.  So you have to pitch differently and focus more on changing speeds.  In LA, if you get the marine layer rolling in at night the air can get very thick and you're basically not much higher than sea level.  You're going from thin, dry air at 5000 feet to thick air at 500 feet.

My point is that teams probably go 12-22 in their first games in LA mainly because the Dodgers are usually really good, not because the opponent is messed up by a change in environment. 

[treego14]

13 minutes ago, BCF said:

Glasnow must be trash. He gave up 5 runs in 5 innings! 

He is!

Trade him to the Brewers!

[yourout]

That's going to hurt for a while.

[82brewcrew82]

Not even close.