2025 NFL Draft Discussion

[Joseph Zarr]

On 2/17/2025 at 4:42 PM, LouisEly said:

 

Team Trade Down always seems to have plenty of ammo every draft given the Packers are rarely picking above 20. This year feels like a classic edition.

I'm going to be attending Round 1. IF the Packers don't get one of those surprising draft day drops for one of those elite guys, I'd be entirely fine if they traded down to acquire another Day 2 pick. Part of me would be equally invested in seeing the massive groans and bios across the Packers fans in attendance - as if hosting the draft precludes the team from making the most sound decision for the football roster. I would laugh heartily with joy.😅

[JosephC]

I've been doing quick and dirty mocks using an online draft simulator (where I pick for all teams, not just Green Bay) and really haven't found many good trade up/trade down scenarios with the way the board sits.

There appear to be so many quality CB and DL options in the late first round that there doesn't seem to be any point in trading up.  Maybe if CB-Will Johnson slips to #13, I think he would be worth moving up to get, but I don't see him getting past San Francisco at #11.

As far as other teams coveting #23.  I think the upper tier of WRs are gone in the top 20 (that includes Egbuka and Golden).  Again, there are just so much DL and CB talent...not really worth it for another team to trade up to #23.  Probably the best scenario is if the offensive tackles, Campbell, Banks, Simmons and Membou all go in the top 20...pretty decent chance that happens...that maybe the Chiefs feel they need to go OT first and deal up to pick Conerly.  The dream scenario is that the Raiders or Jets get all QB stupid and decide to trade the house to move up and pick Dart because I think those team miss out on Ward and Sanders.  But if that happens, I'd guess the trade partner would be Pittsburgh at #21. 

[JosephC]

Zierlein has posted Jack Nelson's grade.  Currently late fifth round that will get pushed down into the 6th once all players are added.  Quite insulting that he has Logan Brown graded just a shade higher.

So far he has grades up for 229 players.  #223 is Graham Mertz.  Logan Brown should be right down there with Mertz.

[CheezWizHed]

The problem with the 20-50 range being very flat is few people are motivated to move up.  The best chance would be some team going after a QB (Ward, Sanders) in the late first round. 

Depending on how Wohler does in testing (i.e. not incredibly slow), I'll happily take him in the 7th round.  He just strikes me as a great football player that is more than the "sum of the parts" type.  Maybe not the best individual or athletic safety, but one that makes everyone around him better. 

[JosephC]

Round One:

1.       Tennessee Titans – Cam Ward/QB/Miami, Fl

2.       Cleveland Browns – Abdul Carter/EDGE/Penn State

TRADE – Jacksonville Jaguars get first round pick (#3 overall) and fifth round pick (#155 overall).  New York Giants get first round pick (#5 overall), second round pick (#36 overall), sixth round pick (#196 overall) and 2026 third round pick.

3.       Jacksonville Jaguars – Travis Hunter/CB/Colorado

4.       New England Patriots – Will Campbell/OT/Louisiana State

5.       New York Giants – Shedeur Sanders/QB/Colorado

TRADE – Dallas Cowboys get first round pick (#6 overall) and fourth round pick (#107 overall).  Las Vegas Raiders get first round pick (#12 overall), second round pick (#44 overall) and fifth round pick (#150 overall).

6.       Dallas Cowboys – Ashton Jeanty/RB/Boise State

7.       New York Jets – Mason Graham/DT/Michigan

TRADE – San Francisco 49ers get first round pick (#8 overall).  Carolina Panthers get first round pick (#11 overall) and third round pick (#99 overall).

8.       San Francisco 49ers – Will Johnson/CB/Michigan

9.       New Orleans Saints – Tyler Warren/TE/ Penn State

10.   Chicago Bears – Kelvin Banks Jr./OT/Texas

11.   Carolina Panthers – Tetairoa McMillan/WR/Arizona

12.   Las Vegas Raiders – Luther Burden III/WR/Missouri

13.   Miami Dolphins – Walter Nolan/DT/Mississippi

14.   Indianapolis Colts – Colston Loveland/TE/Michigan

TRADE – Los Angeles Rams get first round pick (#15 overall).  Atlanta Falcons get first round pick (#26 overall), third round pick (#100 overall) and 2026 third round pick.

15.   Los Angeles Rams – Josh Simmons/OT/Ohio State

16.   Arizona Cardinals – Jalon Walker/EDGE/Georgia

17.   Cincinnati Bengals – Mykel Williams/EDGE/Georgia

18.   Seattle Seahawks – Armand Membou/OT/Missouri

19.   Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Emeka Egbuka/WR/Ohio State

20.   Denver Broncos – Matthew Golden/WR/Texas

TRADE – Las Vegas Raiders get first round pick (#21 overall).  Pittsburgh Steelers get second round pick (#37), third round pick (#68 overall), fifth round pick (#144 overall) and 2026 fifth round pick.

21.   Las Vegas Raiders – Jaxson Dart/QB/Mississippi

22.   Los Angeles Chargers – James Pearce Jr./EDGE/Tennessee

23.   Green Bay Packers -Shavon Revel Jr./CB/East Carolina

TRADE – Kansas City Chiefs get first round pick (#24 overall).  Minnesota Vikings get first round pick (#31 overall) and third round pick (#95 overall).

24.   Kansas City Chiefs – Josh Conerly Jr./OT/Oregon

25.   Houston Texans – Tyler Booker/OG/Alabama

26.   Atlanta Falcons – Mike Green/EDGE/Marshall

27.   Baltimore Ravens – Donovan Ezeiruaku/EDGE/Boston College

28.   Detroit Lions – Shemar Stewart/EDGE/Texas A&M

29.   Washington Commanders – Nic Scourton/EDGE/Texas A&M

30.   Buffalo Bills – Kenneth Grant/DT/Michigan

31.   Minnesota Vikings – Derrick Harmon/DT/Oregon

32.   Philadelphia Eagles – Jihaad Campbell/LB/Alabama

[JosephC]

Round Two:

33.       Cleveland Browns – Omarion Hampton/RB/North Carolina

34.       New York Giants – Donovan Jackson/OG/Ohio State

35.       Tennessee Titans – Grey Zabel/OT/North Dakota State

36.       New York Giants – Malaki Starks/S/Georgia

37.       Pittsburgh Steelers – Jahdae Barron/CB/Texas

38.       New England Patriots – Jack Bech/WR/Texas Christian

39.       Chicago Bears – Jack Sawyer/EDGE/Ohio State

40.       New Orleans Saints – Princely Umanmielen/EDGE/Mississippi

TRADE – Seattle Seahawks get second round pick (#41 overall) and sixth round pick (#197 overall).  Chicago Bears get second round pick (#50 overall), fourth round pick (#137 overall) and fifth round pick (#173 overall).

41.       Seattle Seahawks – Carson Schwesinger/LB/UCLA

42.   New York Jets – Nick Emmanwori/S/South Carolina

43.   San Francisco 49ers – Tyleik Williams/DT/Ohio State

44.   Las Vegas Raiders – Benjamin Morrison/CB/Notre Dame

45.   Indianapolis Colts – Tate Ratledge/OG/Georgia

46.   Atlanta Falcons – Xavier Watts/S/Notre Dame

47.   Arizona Cardinals – T.J. Sanders/DT/South Carolina

48.   Miami Dolphins – Demetrius Knight Jr./LB/South Carolina

49.   Cincinnati Bengals -Aireontae Ersery/OT/Minnesota

50.   Chicago Bears – Marcus Mbow/OG/Purdue

51.   Denver Broncos – Mason Taylor/TE/Louisiana State

52.   Pittsburgh Steelers – TreVeyon Henderson/RB/Ohio State

53.   Tampa Bay Buccaneers – JT Tuimoloau/EDGE/Ohio State

54.   Green Bay Packers – Tre Harris/WR/Mississippi

55.   Los Angeles Chargers – Alfred Collins/DT/Texas

56.   Buffalo Bills – Landon Jackson/EDGE/Arkansas

57.   Carolina Panthers – Josaiah Stewart/EDGE/Michigan

58.   Houston Texans – Jalen Royals/WR/Utah State

59   Baltimore Ravens – Isaiah Bond/WR/Texas

60.   Detroit Lions – Azareye’h Thomas/CB/Florida State

61.   Washington Commanders – Cameron Williams/OT/Texas

62.   Buffalo Bills – Trey Amos/CB/Mississippi

TRADE – New Orleans Saints get second round pick (#63 overall).  Kansas City Chiefs get third round pick (#71 overall) and fourth round pick (#130 overall).

63.   New Orleans Saints – Maxwell Hairston/CB/Kentucky

64.   Philadelphia Eagles – Jayden Higgins/WR/Iowa State

[JosephC]

Round Three:

65.  New York Giants – Ozzy Trapilo/OT/Boston College

66.  Kansas City Chiefs – Jonah Savaiinaea/OG/Arizona

67.  Cleveland Browns – Wyatt Milum/OT/West Virginia

68. Pittsburgh Steelers – Elic Ayomanor/WR/Stanford

69. New England Patriots – Darien Porter/CB/Iowa State

70. Jacksonville Jaguars – Kevin Winston Jr./S/Penn State

71.  Kansas City Chiefs – Jordan Burch/EDGE/Oregon

72.   Chicago Bears – Xavier Restrepo/WR/Miami, Fl

73.   Las Vegas Raiders – Deone Walker/DT/Kentucky

74.   Carolina Panthers – Omarr Norman-Lott/DT/Tennessee

75.   San Francisco 49ers – Chris Paul Jr./LB/Mississippi

76.   Dallas Cowboys – Charles Grant/OG/William & Mary

77.   New England Patriots – Ashton Gillotte/EDGE/Louisville

TRADE – Philadephia Eagles get third round pick (#78 overall).  Arizona Cardinals get third round pick (#96 overall), fourth round pick (#129 overall) and 2026 fifth round pick.

78.   Philadelphia Eagles – Kyle Kennard/EDGE/South Carolina

79.   Washington Commanders – Tez Johnson/CB/Oregon

80.   Indianapolis Colts – Lathan Ransom/S/Ohio State

81.   Cincinnati Bengals – Elijah Arroyo/TE/Miami, Fl

82.   Seattle Seahawks – Jalen Milroe/QB/Alabama

83.   Pittsburgh Steelers – Anthony Belton/OT/North Carolina State

84.   Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Barrett Carter/LB/Clemson

85.   Denver Broncos – Andre Mukuba/S/Texas

86.   Los Angeles Chargers – Gunnar Helm/TE/Texas

87.   Green Bay Packers – Jared Ivey/EDGE/Mississippi

88.   Jacksonville Jaguars – Savion Williams/WR/Texas Christian

89.   Houston Texans – Shemar Turner/DT/Texas A&M

90.   Los Angeles Rams – Harold Fannin Jr./TE/Bowling Green

91.   Baltimore Ravens – Billy Bowman Jr./S/Oklahoma

92.   New York Jets – Emery Jones Jr./OT/Louisiana State

93.   New Orleans Saints – Jaylin Noel/WR/Iowa State

94.   Cleveland Browns – Dillon Gabriel/QB/Oregon

95.   Minnesota Vikings – Jacob Parrish/CB/Kansas State

96.   Arizona Cardinals – Jalen Rivers/OT/Miami, Fl

97.   Minnesota Vikings – Quinshon Judkins/RB/Ohio State

98.   Miami Dolphins – Sebastian Castro/S/Iowa

99.   Carolina Panthers – Jared Wilson/C/Georgia

100.   Atlanta Falcons – Cobee Bryant/CB/Kansas

101.   Detroit Lions – Darius Alexander/DT/Toledo

[JosephC]

Round Four:

102. Tennessee Titans – Nick Nash/WR/San Jose State

103. Cleveland Browns – Dominic Lovett/WR/Georgia

104. New York Giants – Nohl Williams/CB/California

105. New England Patriots – JJ Pegues/DT/Mississippi

106. Jacksonville Jaguars – Joshua Farmer/DT/Florida State

107.  Dallas Cowboys – Danny Stutsman/LB/Oklahoma

108.  Buffalo Bills – Tory Horton/WR/Colorado State

109.  New York Jets – Quinn Ewers/QB/Texas

110.  Carolina Panthers – Jonas Sanker/S/Virginia

111.  New Orleans Saints – Cam Jackson/DT/Florida

112.  San Francisco 49ers – Sai’vion Jones/EDGE/Louisiana State

113.  Carolina Panthers – Mello Dotson/CB/Kansas

114.  Arizona Cardinals – Kyle Williams/WR/Washington State

115.  Miami Dolphins – Will Howard/QB/Ohio State

116.  Indianapolis Colts – Smael Mondon Jr./LB/Georgia

TRADE – Washington Commanders get fourth round pick (#117 overall).  Atlanta Falcons get fifth round pick (#148 overall), seventh round pick (#250 overall) and 2026 fifth round pick.

117.  Washington Commanders – Jeffrey Bassa/LB/Oregon

118.  Cincinnati Bengals – Joshua Gray/OG/Oregon State

119.  Tennessee Titans – Bradyn Swinson/EDGE/Louisiana State

120. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson/OT/Florida

121.  Denver Broncos – Ty Robinson/DT/Nebraska

122. Pittsburgh Steelers – Riley Leonard/QB/Notre Dame

123. Green Bay Packers – Ty Hamilton/DT/Ohio State

124. Los Angeles Chargers – R.J. Mickens/S/Clemson

125. Jacksonville Jaguars – Miles Frazier/OG/Louisiana State

126. Los Angeles Rams – Elijah Badger/WR/Florida

127. Houston Texans – Dorian Strong/CB/Virginia Tech

128. Baltimore Ravens – Willie Lampkin/OG/North Carolina

129. Arizona Cardinals – Cody Simon/LB/Ohio State

130. Kansas City Chiefs – Barryn Sorrell/EDGE/Texas

131.  Buffalo Bills – Jack Kiser/LB/Notre Dame

132. Kansas City Chiefs – Kaleb Johnson/RB/Iowa

133. Detroit Lions – Mitchell Evans/TE/Notre Dame

134. New York Giants – Jordan Phillips/DT/Maryland

135. Miami Dolphins – David Walker/EDGE/Central Arkansas

136. Baltimore Ravens – Tommi Hill/CB/Nebraska

137. Chicago Bears – Dylan Sampson/RB/Tennessee

138. San Francisco 49ers – Jake Briningstool/TE/Clemson

139. San Francisco 49ers – Chase Lundt/OT/Connecticut

[JosephC]

Round Five:

140. Minnesota Vikings – Kaimon Rucker/EDGE/North Carolina

141. Carolina Panthers – Cam Skattebo/RB/Arizona State

142. Tennessee Titans – Quincy Riley/CB/Louisville

143. Jacksonville Jaguars – Tyler Shough/QB/Louisville

144. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jamaree Caldwell/DT/Oregon

145. New England Patriots – Thomas Fidone II/TE/Nebraska

146. New York Jets – Denzel Burke/CB/Ohio State

147. Carolina Panthers – Terrance Ferguson/TE/Oregon

148. Atlanta Falcons – Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins/DT/Georgia

149. Chicago Bears – Warren Brinson/DT/Georgia

150. Las Vegas Raiders – Bhayshul Tuten/RB/Virginia Tech

151. Miami Dolphins – Hollin Pierce/OT/Rutgers

152. Indianapolis Colts – Zy Alexander/CB/Louisiana State

153. Arizona Cardinals – Joe Huber/OG/Wisconsin

154. Cincinnati Bengals – Bihal Kone/CB/Western Michigan

155. Jacksonville Jaguars – Elijah Roberts/EDGE/Southern Methodist

156. Miami Dolphins – Luke Kandra/OG/Cincinnati

157. New York Jets – Pat Bryant/WR/Illinois

158. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Caleb Ransaw/CB/Tulane

159. Los Angeles Chargers – Jake Majors/C/Texas

160. Green Bay Packers – Drew Kendall/C/Boston College

161. Minnesota Vikings – Dylan Fairchild/OG/Georgia

162. Philadelphia Eagles – Rylie Mills/DT/Notre Dame

163. Pittsburgh Steelers – Que Robinson/EDGE/Alabama

164. Carolina Panthers – Kobe King/LB/Penn State

165. Cleveland Browns – Aeneas Peebles/DT/Virginia Tech

166. Philadelphia Eagles – Caleb Rogers/OG/Texas Tech

167. Houston Texans – Branson Taylor/OT/Pittsburgh

168. Tennessee Titans – Malachi Moore/S/Alabama

169. Philadelphia Eagles – Jackson Hawes/TE/Georgia Tech

170. Dallas Cowboys – Howard Cross III/DT/Notre Dame

171. Buffalo Bills – Maxen Hook/S/Toledo

172. Dallas Cowboys – Alijah Huzzie/CB/North Carolina

173. Chicago Bears – Clay Webb/C/Jacksonville State

174. Dallas Cowboys – Ahmed Hassanein/EDGE/Boise State

175. Buffalo Bills – R.J. Harvey/RB/Central Florida

176. Baltimore Ravens – Jack Nelson/OT/Wisconsin

177. Los Angeles Chargers – Kobe Hudson/WR/Central Florida

178. Baltimore Ravens – C.J. West/DT/Indiana

And that is it for the night.  I may finish the last two round, or maybe not.  All depends on how busy I am the next couple of days.

[JosephC]

Sorry about the formatting as this is a cut-and-paste job from an Excel spreadsheet. Used all the updated prospects lists from the same sources as the previous list. So here are the final pre-combine prospect rankings.

Round One:

1 CB Travis Hunter Colorado
2 EDGE Abdul Carter Penn State
3 DT Mason Graham Michigan
4 RB Ashton Jeanty Boise State
5 OT Will Campbell LSU
6 TE Tyler Warren Penn State
7 CB Will Johnson Michigan
8 WR Tetairoa McMillan Arizona
9 QB Cam Ward Miami, Fl
10 WR Luther Burden III Missouri
11 EDGE James Pearce Jr. Tennessee
12 EDGE Mykel Williams Georgia
13 S Malaki Starks Georgia
14 DT Walter Nolan Mississippi
15 OT Kelvin Banks Jr. Texas
16 EDGE Mike Green Marshall
17 TE Colston Loveland Michigan
18 OT Armand Membou Missouri
19 EDGE Shemar Stewart Texas A&M
20 OT Josh Simmons Ohio State
21 WR Emeka Egbuka Ohio State
22 LB Jalon Walker Georgia
23 WR Matthew Golden Texas
24 OG Tyler Booker Alabama
25 DT Kenneth Grant Michigan
26 QB Shedeur Sanders Colorado
27 LB Jihaad Campbell Alabama
28 CB Shavon Revel Jr. East Carolina
29 EDGE Nic Scourton Texas A&M
30 OT Josh Conerly Jr. Oregon
31 CB Jahdae Barron Texas
32 EDGE Donovan Ezeiruaku Boston College

Round Two:

33 RB Omarion Hampton North Carolina
34 DT Derrick Harmon Oregon
35 EDGE Jack Sawyer Ohio State
36 S Nick Emmanwori South Carolina
37 OG Donovan Jackson Ohio State
38 DT Tyleik Williams Ohio State
39 OT Grey Zabel North Dakota State
40 S Xavier Watts Notre Dame
41 CB Benjamin Morrison Notre Dame
42 EDGE Princely Umanmielen Mississippi
43 EDGE JT Tuimoloau Ohio State
44 LB Carson Schwesinger UCLA
45 WR Jack Bech Texas Christian
46 EDGE Landon Jackson Arkansas
47 CB Azareye'h Thomas Florida State
48 RB TreVeyon Henderson Ohio State
49 OT Aireontae Ersery Minnesota
50 TE Mason Taylor LSU
51 CB Trey Amos Mississippi
52 DT Alfred Collins Texas
53 RB Kaleb Johnson Iowa
54 DT T.J. Sanders South Carolina
55 RB Quinshon Judkins Ohio State
56 CB Maxwell Hairston Kentucky
57 RB Dylan Sampson Tennessee
58 WR Tre Harris Mississippi
59 EDGE Josaiah Stewart Michigan
60 LB Demetrius Knight Jr. South Carolina
61 WR Jalen Royals Utah State
62 EDGE Jordan Burch Oregon
63 OT Cameron Williams Texas
64 OG Tate Ratledge Georgia

Round Three:

65 WR Isaiah Bond Texas
66 OG Marcus Mbow Purdue
67 WR Jayden Higgins Iowa State
68 OT Ozzy Trapilo Boston College
69 DT Deone Walker Kentucky
70 TE Elijah Arroyo Miami, Fl
71 DT Omarr Norman-Lott Tennessee
72 OT Wyatt Milum West Virginia
73 WR Elic Ayomanor Stanford
74 QB Jaxson Dart Mississippi
75 TE Gunnar Helm Texas
76 TE Harold Fannin Jr. Bowling Green
77 OT Jonah Savaiinaea Arizona
78 S Kevin Winston Jr. Penn State
79 LB Chris Paul Jr. Mississippi
80 QB Jalen Milroe Alabama
81 EDGE Kyle Kennard South Carolina
82 CB Darien Porter Iowa State
83 WR Xavier Restrepo Miami, Fl
84 WR Tez Johnson Oregon
85 S Lathan Ransom Ohio State
86 EDGE Ashton Gillotte Louisville
87 WR Savion Williams Texas Christian
88 S Andre Mukuba Texas
89 RB Cam Skattebo Arizona State
90 OT Charles Grant William & Mary
91 S Billy Bowman Jr. Oklahoma
92 OT Anthony Belton North Carolina State
93 OT Emery Jones Jr. LSU
94 EDGE Jared Ivey Mississippi
95 EDGE Bradyn Swinson LSU
96 LB Barrett Carter Clemson
97 DT Shemar Turner Texas A&M
98 LB Danny Stutsman Oklahoma
99 LB Smael Mondon Jr. Georgia
100 WR Jaylin Noel Iowa State
101 QB Dillon Gabriel Oregon

Round Four:

102 S Sebastian Castro Iowa
103 DT Darius Alexander Toledo
104 DT JJ Pegues Mississippi
105 CB Zy Alexander LSU
106 LB Jeffrey Bassa Oregon
107 CB Jacob Parrish Kansas State
108 EDGE Barryn Sorrell Texas
109 EDGE Sai'vion Jones LSU
110 C Jared Wilson Georgia
111 DT Joshua Farmer Florida State
112 QB Will Howard Ohio State
113 RB Bhayshul Tuten Virginia Tech
114 CB Cobee Bryant Kansas
115 OT Jalen Rivers Miami, Fl
116 DT Cam Jackson Florida
117 CB Nohl Williams California
118 RB RJ Harvey Central Florida
119 DT Jordan Phillips Maryland
120 DT Ty Robinson Nebraska
121 QB Quinn Ewers Texas
122 EDGE David Walker Central Arkansas
123 WR Nick Nash San Jose State
124 RB Devin Neal Kansas
125 DT Ty Hamilton Ohio State
126 RB Damien Martinez Miami, Fl
127 TE Mitchell Evans Notre Dame
128 RB Jordan James Oregon
129 WR Dominic Lovett Georgia
130 LB Cody Simon Ohio State
131 WR Tory Horton Colorado State
132 S Jonas Sanker Virginia
133 EDGE Kaimon Rucker North Carolina
134 QB Riley Leonard Notre Dame
135 EDGE Que Robinson Alabama
136 EDGE Oluwafemi Oladejo UCLA
137 CB Mello Dotson Kansas
138 TE Jake Briningstool Clemson
139 OG Joshua Gray Oregon State

Round Five:

140 WR Kyle Williams Washington State
141 TE Thomas Fidone II Nebraska
142 TE Terrance Ferguson Oregon
143 DT Jamaree Caldwell Oregon
144 RB DJ Giddens Kansas State
145 QB Tyler Shough Louisville
146 S R.J. Mickens Clemson
147 WR Elijhah Badger Florida
148 OT Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson Florida
149 EDGE Elijah Roberts Southern Methodist
150 TE Jackson Hawes Georgia Tech
151 OG Miles Frazier LSU
152 DT Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins Georgia
153 DT Warren Brinson Georgia
154 CB Dorian Strong Virginia Tech
155 OG Willie Lampkin North Carolina
156 RB Ollie Gordon II Oklahoma State
157 EDGE Ahmed Hassanein Boise State
158 LB Jack Kiser Notre Dame
159 CB Tommi Hill Nebraska
160 CB Quincy Riley Louisville
161 EDGE Antwaun Powell-Ryland Virginia Tech
162 LB Kobe King Penn State
163 CB Denzel Burke Ohio State
164 OT Chase Lundt Connecticut
165 RB Kalel Mullings Michigan
166 TE Oronde Gadsden II Syracuse
167 DT Rylie Mills Notre Dame
168 RB Brashard Smith Southern Methodist
169 RB Trevor Etienne Georgia
170 RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt Arizona
171 RB Woody Marks USC
172 DT Aeneas Peebles Virignia Tech
173 CB Bihal Kone Western Michigan
174 RB Jarquez Hunter Auburn
175 EDGE Tyler Batty Brigham Young
176 DT Howard Cross III Notre Dame
177 TE Benjamin Yurosek Georgia
178 WR Pat Bryant Illinois

Round Six:

179 OT Hollin Pierce Rutgers
180 DT CJ West Indiana
181 OG Joe Huber Wisconsin
182 OG Luke Kandra Cincinnati
183 CB Caleb Ransaw Tulane
184 EDGE Tyler Baron Miami, Fl
185 WR Kobe Hudson Central Florida
186 LB Jackson Woodard UNLV
187 CB Alijah Huzzie North Carolina
188 QB Kyle McCord Syracuse
189 DT Simeon Barrow Jr Miami, Fl

[Joseph Zarr]

Goodness gracious:

I take back everything I said earlier😅

 

[Joseph Zarr]

I do like this quite a bit:

And this:

 

[JosephC]

14 hours ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Goodness gracious:

I take back everything I said earlier😅

 

I didn't think he looked 290 pounds on those highlight videos and sure enough, weighed in at 267 pound here.  RAS is a pile of crap IMO.  Go back to the previous page and you'll see a post about how a football-nut friend told me that he can really run but he doesn't look that agile.  This RAS number is totally built on how he runs and how he jumps.  20 yard shuttle, he didn't do it.  3-cone drill, he didn't do it.  How can they come up with an "athletic" score with zero agility data?

Just glancing through the numbers, I'd probably say Georgia DE-Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins probably had the best day.  I don't think he was a real standout at Georgia though.  Backup most of his career (admittedly, there is elite competition when trying to get off that bench), did start 10 games this past season...career 37.5 tackles for loss, 12.5 tackles for loss and 4 sacks.  He appeared to be a fifth rounder heading into today, I have to wonder if this will move him up into round three?

But overall, I thought it was a pretty disappointing day with the amount of guys who did nothing, or skipped critical parts of the workouts.  Looks like nobody wants to do the 3-cone anymore.  I can understand some of the top guys...but a guy like Mike Green...you'd think the MAC guys would want to step up to show what they can do (Toledo's Darius Alexander stepped up, did everything, and looks like one of the days winners).  Really would have liked to see Kenneth Grant do everything as that guy appears to be a really good athlete for his size...he did nothing.  JT Tuimoloau, a guy who played really well down the stretch and was getting some real positive reviews...he did nothing.  Lots of "doing nothing" today.

[nate82]

On 2/23/2025 at 2:09 PM, JosephC said:

10.   Chicago Bears – Kelvin Banks Jr./OT/Texas

I don't believe the Bears are going to keep this pick.  I would put this at a very high possibility that the Bears trade out of the #10 pick.  From the rumors I have seen they are going to address the OL through FA and they may trade the pick for more picks or for Myles Garrett.  The Bears keep on getting thrown out there as one of the more likely destination for him.  Though the price may get to high for the Bears liking as it looks like the Bills and Eagles are willing to give up a lot to get him.  The Browns are also reluctant to trade him and haven't had any conversations with any team on a possible trade.

Still I think the Bears trade out of #10 to try and get a few more picks in the second or third round. 

[JosephC]

First round cornerback candidates for the Packers...Shavon Revel, Benjamin Morrison, Azareye'h Thomas...all did nothing the the combine today.  Slow zone corner Jahdae Barron ran the 40 in 4.40 but has really short arms (29 5/8) and his vertical and broad jump were just sort of average. Trey Amos,,,not great, not poor, just sort of average across the whole board.

But overall, I thought this cornerback class showed really well in the late to middle rounds, great news for the Packers who may be looking at drafting more than one.  Maxwell Hairston has been floating in that late second/round three area and he ran a 4.30 40 time, 39.5" vertical jump and 10"9' broad jump...all excellent numbers.  Jacob Parrish is on the small side (5-9 3/4), but posted a 4.36 40 time, 37.5" vertical jump and 10'9" board jump.  Again, hardly anybody did the short shuttle and 3-cone drill, so very little can be said about agility numbers.  One guy that went out there and did it all and lit it up was Darien Porter.  This was expected as he was a top track athlete in high school and he was expected to test very well.  6-2 7/8, 195 pounds, 4.30 40 time, 36.5" vertical, 9'8" broad jump, 4.04 20 yard shuttle, 6.71 3-cone drill.  Problem is he's a pure athlete.  Went to Iowa State as a wide receiver, switched to the defense and only started a total of 7 games (all this year) in 3 years as a defensive back.  Even with those eye-popping numbers, I think he's stuck in round three based on the football resume.  Some other really good performances that I just don't have time to get to.  Could be a nice, deep class of cornerbacks.

As far as the safeties, Nick Emmanwori was expected to be great and he was.  6-3 1/8, 220 pound, 4.40 40 time, 43" vertical, 11'6" broad jump.  He appears to be solidly in round one now.  Hunter Wohler ran a 4.63 40-time, which ended up being the worst 40 time among the safeties.  He did do the short shuttle (4.25) and 3-cone drill (6.72), and both of those are very good numbers.

No jaw-dropping performances from the tight ends...Terrance Ferguson probably had the best day.  Jalin Conyers looked to be a 7th rounder/undrafted type, but he did really well in the short shuttle and 3-cone and may have improved his outlook by a couple rounds.  I don't see anybody listing TE as a need for the Packers, but with Luke Musgrave getting hurt again (just like when he was in college...always hurt), I wouldn't rule out the Packers taking one.  No problem at all with Kraft, but they don't see to have a whole lot behind him.

[Joseph Zarr]

14 hours ago, JosephC said:

No jaw-dropping performances from the tight ends...Terrance Ferguson probably had the best day.  Jalin Conyers looked to be a 7th rounder/undrafted type, but he did really well in the short shuttle and 3-cone and may have improved his outlook by a couple rounds.  I don't see anybody listing TE as a need for the Packers, but with Luke Musgrave getting hurt again (just like when he was in college...always hurt), I wouldn't rule out the Packers taking one.  No problem at all with Kraft, but they don't see to have a whole lot behind him.

Not to mention, despite what others here have opined, in Musgrave I consistently see a player who lacks fluidity in his routes. He is fast, sure, but I continue to believe he just may not be that great of a football player. I sincerely hope I am wrong. But, after two years, I don't see it. And, for two years, as you point out, he has gone through long stretches of no availability.  Like highly questionable post-season O-Line shuffles the Packers do seem enamored with holding on to limited oft-injured TE's. I present you one TE Tyler Davis, your honor. At least with Musgrave he has youth. I personally distinctly see a need for adding another TE prospect into their current mix if indeed they actually are walking the 'iron sharpens iron' mindset. I reallllllly wanted Warren but that is a pipe dream. In the end, I am just extremely grateful they have Kraft. He's a complete stud. 

Is TE a major need? No. Hard to find another player as impactful as Kraft. Would it be a luxury to add top end depth to the TE room? Absolutely. And a luxury I'd love to see as a fan.

I think my Day 2 Guy is Terrance Ferguson out of Oregon. That's a guy I'd love to add to the TE mix in GB.

[Joseph Zarr]

On 2/27/2025 at 8:21 PM, JosephC said:

I didn't think he looked 290 pounds on those highlight videos and sure enough, weighed in at 267 pound here.  RAS is a pile of crap IMO.  Go back to the previous page and you'll see a post about how a football-nut friend told me that he can really run but he doesn't look that agile.  This RAS number is totally built on how he runs and how he jumps.  20 yard shuttle, he didn't do it.  3-cone drill, he didn't do it.  How can they come up with an "athletic" score with zero agility data?

Just glancing through the numbers, I'd probably say Georgia DE-Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins probably had the best day.  I don't think he was a real standout at Georgia though.  Backup most of his career (admittedly, there is elite competition when trying to get off that bench), did start 10 games this past season...career 37.5 tackles for loss, 12.5 tackles for loss and 4 sacks.  He appeared to be a fifth rounder heading into today, I have to wonder if this will move him up into round three?

But overall, I thought it was a pretty disappointing day with the amount of guys who did nothing, or skipped critical parts of the workouts.  Looks like nobody wants to do the 3-cone anymore.  I can understand some of the top guys...but a guy like Mike Green...you'd think the MAC guys would want to step up to show what they can do (Toledo's Darius Alexander stepped up, did everything, and looks like one of the days winners).  Really would have liked to see Kenneth Grant do everything as that guy appears to be a really good athlete for his size...he did nothing.  JT Tuimoloau, a guy who played really well down the stretch and was getting some real positive reviews...he did nothing.  Lots of "doing nothing" today.

I think you'll appreciate this.

From Tony Pauline via conversations at the Combine:

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Shemar Stewart's draft stock

The Olympian workout of Shemar Stewart has a lot of people believing he will end up in the top half of Round 1. Yet why was someone so athletically superior to everyone else on the college field only able to produce 1.5 sacks last season? Teams I’ve spoken with and people close to the Texas A&M program tell me that Stewart is a straight-line athlete who cannot change direction. Some told me his inability to bend off the edge resulted in a lot of missed sacks and lost opportunities when he beat opposing offensive tackles time and time again.

 

My initial thought after hearing this was Taylor Mays, the athletically gifted safety from USC who himself turned in an Olympic-type workout during the 2010 NFL combine and was selected in the second round of the draft that year by the San Francisco 49ers. Mays had an uninspired NFL career based on the expectations of his athleticism. When I posed this comparison to a league source, he hit me back with one that was much more similar: Vernon Gholston, the sixth pick of the 2008 draft by the New York Jets who amounted to little in the NFL.

 

[LouisEly]

Texas A&M's scheme was focused on run-stopping.  That's the biggest reason why he and the other two A&M DL (Scourton, Turner) all didn't have any eye-popping pass rush stats.  Scourton had a noticeable dip in pass rush stats from his prior year at Purdue.

[JosephC]

Texas A&M had Scourton listed at 285 pounds, and he weighted in at 257 at the combine.  And Scourton did nothing at the combine, so he wasn't playing the somewhat common game of "drop weight for better workout numbers at Indy and then gain weight for the pro day where I can sit out since I already did the testing."

Scourton did have 5 sacks and 14.5 tackles for loss in his 1 year at Texas A&M,  Not jaw-dropping, but solid,  Certainly better than the 4.5 sacks and 11 tackles for loss that Stewart posted in 3 years.

[JosephC]

Zierlein at nfl.com just posted a new mock and there is some crazy stuff in it.

#4 - Patriots - OT-Armand Membou/Missouri

He could be the best tackle in this draft, but still a bit odd to see a right tackle as a top 5 pick.  Last year the Titans took right tackle JC Latham at #7 and immediately put him at left tackle, I would think the same thing would probably happen here.

#9 - Saints - EDGE-Shemar Stewart/Texas A&M

I don't think Packer fans have much to dwell on anymore with Stewart.  He will go well above #23.

#14 - Colts - OG-Tyler Booker/Alabama

IMO he's a very late first rounder or second rounder.  He had been rising but I thought a terrible combine performance would knock him back down where he belongs.  #14 seems really high.

#23 - Packers - CB-Jahdae Barron/Texas

I wouldn't be surprised.  May not seem like an ideal scheme fit, but when guys run a 4.39, NFL coaches (all with big egos) figure they can make anything out fast guys.

#25 - Cardinals (following trade) - WR-Luther Burden III/Missouri

I've had the Packers top two needs as CB and DE, but would take Burden at #23 if this is how the draft fell.  Only minor concern was that Missouri listed him at 5-11. which generally means the guy is really 5-9 1/2.  But Burden measured/weighed in at 6-0 (on the nose) and 206 pounds.  Good enough size, great play speed and quickness, plus hands and dynamic run-after-the-catch ability.  IMO an easy, no-brainer pick.

#29 - Browns - QB-Shedeur Sanders/Colorado

OUCH!

Only player that didn't make round one that is surprising is Ohio State WR-Emeka Egbuka.  I still think that the big four receivers - McMillan, Burden, Golden, Egbuka - will all be off the board by the time the Packers pick.  Time will tell though, only takes 1 free agent signing to push a player down the board a few spots. 

[OldHeidelberg]

On 3/4/2025 at 10:32 AM, JosephC said:

Zierlein at nfl.com just posted a new mock and there is some crazy stuff in it.

 

#25 - Cardinals (following trade) - WR-Luther Burden III/Missouri

I've had the Packers top two needs as CB and DE, but would take Burden at #23 if this is how the draft fell.  Only minor concern was that Missouri listed him at 5-11. which generally means the guy is really 5-9 1/2.  But Burden measured/weighed in at 6-0 (on the nose) and 206 pounds.  Good enough size, great play speed and quickness, plus hands and dynamic run-after-the-catch ability.  IMO an easy, no-brainer pick.

#29 - Browns - QB-Shedeur Sanders/Colorado

OUCH!

 

I saw Zierlein talking about Sanders on NFL network this morning. He said he thinks in a weak Qb year everyone just mocks him to QB needy teams and compared him to Malik Willis who was also mocked high in a weak QB year but dropped. 

I would be shocked if the Packers picked a short WR in 1st round. They already have Reed and prefer bigger guys outside in their offense.    

[Joseph Zarr]

Georgia Tech Pro Day:

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Defensive tackle Andre Biggers, who stood out during Shrine Bowl practices, is one of those players expected to get selected next month, and he performed well.

The 320-pound lineman hit 9-foot-5 in the broad jump and completed 22 reps on the bench with arms that measured 34 7/8 inches at the combine. He looked smooth and athletic during drills, and teams believe he comes with scheme versatility and the potential to line up on the nose or as a five-technique.

Biggers met extensively with the Arizona Cardinals, Green Bay Packers and Buffalo Bills.

 

[CheezWizHed]

13 hours ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Georgia Tech Pro Day:

 

Future potential Tshirt: My NT is Biggers than yours!

[Joseph Zarr]

5 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Future potential Tshirt: My NT is Biggers than yours!

I imagine, come draft day, it will be 'The Biggers they are, the harder they fall.'. I still don't see him getting picked beyond the 7th or UDFA range but what do I know? My specialty is obscure DSL and ACL'ers.😅

[CheezWizHed]

1 minute ago, Joseph Zarr said:

I imagine, come draft day, it will be 'The Biggers they are, the harder they fall.'. I still don't see him getting picked beyond the 7th or UDFA range but what do I know? My specialty is obscure DSL and ACL'ers.😅

Sometimes, you just need a name! ...and be 6'5" and 320lbs.

Oddly scouting reports have him fitting best as a 3-4 DE since he doesn't anchor well as an NT.