2025 Packer's Draft Day

[OldSchoolSnapper]

12 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Grass is still green

Good one. Super original. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, OldHeidelberg said:

I agree, if they took a guy not typical size for what they like it is probably BPA at a need position. I like it, we don't take exciting skill position guys this high too often lately.

You guys are so crabby for pointing out the obvious. 

[BrewerFan]

Just now, LouisEly said:

Yeah, but they would have to pay the 5th year option price guaranteed which is 8-figures.  Hard to pay Watson 8-figures with his injury history.  I think it's better they don't have a 5th year option on him.

It's not cheap, but 13M with no further commitment and you get to see how he comes back from the ACL? Plus, the Cap will be ~300M or higher next year. 

LOW 8 figures isn't a big deal. What, 13M roughly? 

 

Seeing what the Giants gave up, #34, #99+2026 3rd pick...I'm happy with Golden. 

Also, he is NOT redundant with the WRs we have. He CAN be interchangeable, but nobody else gives you that deep threat he does(not meant for you, just an additional...). 

 

But your comp? Devonta Smith? Or Waddle?

 

[HarryDoyle]

2 minutes ago, OldHeidelberg said:

I agree, if they took a guy not typical size for what they like it is probably BPA at a need position. I like it, we don't take exciting skill position guys this high too often lately.

And he can catch.

[CheezWizHed]

4 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

I see Golden's potential as Amon-Ra St Brown, but with much better speed - I'd take a shot at that 2/3 into the first round in every single draft year.

I see a Chris Olave comparison, who was a coveted pick a few years back. 

[endaround]

1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

It's not cheap, but 13M with no further commitment and you get to see how he comes back from the ACL? Plus, the Cap will be ~300M or higher next year. 

LOW 8 figures isn't a big deal. What, 13M roughly? 

 

Seeing what the Giants gave up, #34, #99+2026 3rd pick...I'm happy with Golden. 

Also, he is NOT redundant with the WRs we have. He CAN be interchangeable, but nobody else gives you that deep threat he does(not meant for you, just an additional...). 

 

But your comp? Devonta Smith? Or Waddle?

 

Now what the Falcons gave up...

[LouisEly]

I'm feeling Jordan Burch for the 2nd round.  Someone who can play all along the line and play outside on run downs and inside on pass downs.  Kind of fills two holes - don't really need a DT if they can draft a bigger end like Burch or Elijah Roberts who can flex inside on passing downs. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

And he can catch.

"So while he got better with drops in 2024, the reality is that Golden had a 9.2% drop rate at Houston and a 7.4% drop rate for his career. None of the other top receivers in the 2025 class had a career drop rate higher than 5.1%." 

 

[BrewerFan]

11 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Golden might resemble a few of the Packers' current stable of wideouts, but he plays more physically and is faster than anyone they have in the room, even with a healthy Watson (if that ever happens again).

Not a reach to pick him where he went, and a big need position - hard to fault the pick looking at it from any number of ways.

I think Watson was past the pesky injuries. Going and working at the lab in Madison did a lot for him and Stokes in terms of pulled muscles.

If he can get back next year and not necessarily make a big impact, but show he's healthy, I'd definitely be happy to bring him back and have a WR corp of Golden, Reed, Watson and Wicks...with Kraft and Musgrave. That is a stable. 

 

As for Will Johnson, I'd advocate moving up for him...if we moved Jaire or Doubs and added picks, but not with the 8 we came into the day with. 

[BrewerFan]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

"So while he got better with drops in 2024, the reality is that Golden had a 9.2% drop rate at Houston and a 7.4% drop rate for his career. None of the other top receivers in the 2025 class had a career drop rate higher than 5.1%." 

 

And again the sun is out and shinning and you're pointing out those little clouds to us.

What would you have done? 

You said Campbell and I said...'that'd be an interesting pick, great off-ball.' And then it was, 'eh, I just threw out a name, Quay sucks.'

LOL... the guy who won the lottery, but he's upset about the taxes!

[BrewerFan]

8 minutes ago, endaround said:

Now what the Falcons gave up...

Yes, that I would have jumped on. Bad teams or average teams who are an injury or two away from being bad trading 1st rd picks? That's a risk that's USUALLY worth taking. 

46+a 6th+2026 1st...and next year appears to be a better draft? 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

3 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

And again the sun is out and shinning and you're pointing out those little clouds to us.

What would you have done? 

You said Campbell and I said...'that'd be an interesting pick, great off-ball.' And then it was, 'eh, I just threw out a name, Quay sucks.'

LOL... the guy who won the lottery, but he's upset about the taxes!

I literally haven't complained about the pick in a single utterance. I don't watch a second of college football. I couldn't care less about Campbell. I said exactly what I meant. He was just a name I threw out. That's what I said. 

The only thing I said was he looks a lot like a bunch of guys on the roster, which he does. The damn telecast itself described him as "not a #1". 

Someone points out that he can catch which completely contradicts his scouting report and it's not valid to point that out?

You guys are taking this stupid crabby schtick way too far. 

[BrewerFan]

Washington is definitely building up that OL for Jayden Daniels.

Adding Tunsil and now picking up Conerly? That's exactly the way to go when you hit on that QB. 

[LouisEly]

Simmons still out there as well as the injured CBs.  Character whispers (Green, Hairston) still out there as well.

Looks like everybody is passing on injured players, and risks in general.

[BrewerFan]

Buffalo has to be going CB here. That's a huge need for them.

I think Johnson still goes late first or at WORST early 2nd...but we'll see. Johnson at worst is a great C3 CB if he has lost a step. 

[BrewerFan]

1 minute ago, LouisEly said:

Simmons still out there as well as the injured CBs.  Character whispers (Green, Hairston) still out there as well.

Looks like everybody is passing on injured players, and risks in general.

Simmons is less surprising given his injury. We were all talking about it being an ACL, but I think he'd have been picked(or would be by KC) if that was it.

His injury can impact that first contract. With Johnson, they're talking about potentially impacting the 2nd. 

 

Buffalo with Hairston. That's a good pick. 

I'm dying to see what Philly takes when they flip with KC. If it's Johnson, I'll cry...

[OldSchoolSnapper]

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[BrewerFan]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

https://x.com/ChuckFBass/status/1915598666687041933?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

So...scroll down and I think you'll see why I'm not taking THIS guy seriously...at all. 

 

You found a miserable troll on Twitter who doesn't like the pick. Congrats!

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

So...scroll down and I think you'll see why I'm not taking THIS guy seriously...at all. 

 

You found a miserable troll on Twitter who doesn't like the pick. Congrats!

Actually it's just a guy making a funny joke. Maybe don't take it so seriously. You seem pretty crabby tonight. 

[BrewerFan]

Philly just got a stud in Campbell. They've got OL, DL, DBs...all set. 

This is a great place to take a LB and a very high ceiling LBer.

[homer]

good Lord you two. let it go.

[BrewerFan]

41 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

I see a Chris Olave comparison, who was a coveted pick a few years back. 

If he's as slick as Olave, that's...a big time pick. 

We all(mostly) like Golden, but if ATL offered the Packers #46+200-whatever+2026 1st, would you have taken that?

 

[wallus]

3 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

We all(mostly) like Golden, but if ATL offered the Packers #46+200-whatever+2026 1st, would you have taken that?

 

Absolutely I would have taken that.

[CheezWizHed]

1 minute ago, BrewerFan said:

If he's as slick as Olave, that's...a big time pick. 

We all(mostly) like Golden, but if ATL offered the Packers #46+200-whatever+2026 1st, would you have taken that?

 

Yes. I actually like Higgins and maybe even Royal better as fits for the Pack. They may have a lower ceiling, but I think they provide more of what we need.  That first rounder is probably going to be decently high too. 

[BrewerFan]

27 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Yes. I actually like Higgins and maybe even Royal better as fits for the Pack. They may have a lower ceiling, but I think they provide more of what we need.  That first rounder is probably going to be decently high too. 

I'm not a big fan of Royal, but I like Higgins. What do you think they do that Golden doesn't? Higgins has that big frame, but...what we needed more than anything was someone to replace the deep speed that Watson provided. That's why I liked Thornton(and Higgins). 

 

I would take that trade without a doubt, but there's just too much long term upside in the additional 1st. Moving down ~20 spots is a relatively small price to pay, but I really like Golden. IF he's Olave but has that type of speed, that's a unique player. 

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Though he broke out late as a 2025 NFL Draft prospect, Matthew Golden has plenty of desirable qualities as a potential high-end movement-Z and impact starter at the NFL level. At 5'11", 191 pounds, Golden's 4.29 40-yard dash has caused many to bill him as a speed WR primarily, but that's a misconception. He certainly has high-end speed and burst, but he wins with his fluid and twitched-up mobility as a separator, and his liquid-smooth catch-point skills. With a vast route tree, a prolific separation framework, slippery RAC ability, and stalwart conversion skills, Golden is a complete offensive catalyst, in the mold of Chris Olave or T.Y. Hilton.

 

The rest of the WRing core...I think we're underrating them a touch.

Jayden Reed is a VERY solid #2 WR. 
Doubs...is a bit of a question mark, but he's also a good #2/3 when he's on the field.
Wicks...he really reminds me of Adams. Adams took that jump year 3 so you obviously can't just assume that, but he's so smooth and he can get off the line so effortlessly. 
Add Kraft, Musgrave...I still think Thornton could be a great pick if he's there in Rd5. 

But that's a group of receivers that can beat you on all 3 levels, that can make guys miss and that you can do a LOT with. 

If you can add a guy who runs clean, crisp routes, excels at double moves and runs a 4.29, I don't see a weakness.