Rate the brewers deadline.

[Scooterfletcher]

I give it an A-.   We didn’t give up anybody we deep divers are counting on neither now nor in the future.   We added a good backup catcher with some pop.   We added a double digit save reliever with an under 2 era that won’t be overworked (due to injury).     
 

And we maintain flexibility to fix what ails us this offseason. 

[Brewin]

C - I like the Miller addition and have no issue moving on from Nestor.

My issue is Monasterio/Siegler/Bauers. The lack of any upgrade there is disappointing IMO

 

[StearnsFTW]

B.

 

I like Miller, but as mentioned an upgrade on Monasterio would've been welcomed. 

 

IKF would've made it an A.

[rickh150]

D for disappointed.  We are acting like we are a fringe wild card 3 team not wanting to buy/sell much……and NOT the best team with obvious upgradable parts for cheap. What in the world?

[StearnsFTW]

Just now, rickh150 said:

D for disappointed.  We are acting like we are a fringe wild card 3 team not wanting to buy/sell much……and NOT the best team with obvious upgradable parts for cheap. What in the world?

Who did you want them to target?

 

I would've loved Merrill Kelly personally, but I didn't really see what Texas gave up for him.

[wibadgers23]

D+

Would have been an F it wasn't for the Miller trade at the last second.

[wiguy94]

D.

Miller is a solid add though trading for a pitcher dealing with forearm issues isn't very safe.

Jansen was a fine upgrade at backup C.

Trading Cortes and Quintana for Lockridge is bizarre. Maybe Brewers see something in Lockridge but I don't.

Ultimately they get a D for not doing anything to improve the infield depth behind Ortiz (Brewers are one injury away from a Seigler/Monasterio platoon in the infield) and for not getting a LHH to add some pop on the bench. Yes I know Bauers will eventually be back but he's not good.

[ghostdrew]

A for having the foresight to trade for priester  Vaughn and Jansen  o but priester  and Vaughn don't count right.

[StearnsFTW]

22 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

D.

Miller is a solid add though trading for a pitcher dealing with forearm issues isn't very safe.

Jansen was a fine upgrade at backup C.

Trading Cortes and Quintana for Lockridge is bizarre. Maybe Brewers see something in Lockridge but I don't.

Ultimately they get a D for not doing anything to improve the infield depth behind Ortiz (Brewers are one injury away from a Seigler/Monasterio platoon in the infield) and for not getting a LHH to add some pop on the bench. Yes I know Bauers will eventually be back but he's not good.

Quintana?

 

May have missed that part.

[wiguy94]

18 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

Quintana?

 

May have missed that part.

Jorge Quintana

[brooks_quichenick]

D+

Paying extra to get rid of Cortes Jr. was silly.

Not reinforcing the infield, especially SS/3B... also silly.

Acquiring Miller is fine, hopefully his arm is ok and he doesn't need TJ immediately after returning from the IL.

[Klantz27]

C 

Jansen and miller solid pickups 

Cortes deal was just terrible if that's all the value cortes had we should of traded quintana instead 

i wasnt asking for eugenio suarez but 2 vet utility guys like a willy castro and a amed rosario to get monestario and siegler off the team and ortiz on the bench would of been better for a playoff run in my opinion 

[BlightyBrew]

F goes to D+ if Miller is healthy

Bench is still weak.

SS/3B is still a weak spot with no slg.

 

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

C-.

Given the competition a big move to add to the INF probably was never in the cards, but an IKF-type addition would've been welcomed. And you'd think Pittsburgh would've been willing to deal him, unless perhaps his bobblehead giveaway was coming up & they didn't want to disappoint the 11,500 fans that day. Miller was fine. We might not have gotten him w/o taking Montgomery.

You have to wonder, if Contreras was 100% & Chourio hadn't pulled up lame, if the Jansen & Lockridge deals would've even been made. I'm not super disappointed, unconventionality has worked for this FO many times, but it was a somewhat bizarre day.

 

[Playing Catch]

C

If one presumes that the only players available were the ones that got moved, there really weren't a lot of clear upgrades available. I think those of us on the outside believe guys like Suarez, O'Hearn or Castro were examples of clear upgrades, but Even Carlos Correa is having a league average season offensively and defensively, and he's often hurt. The Twins fans I know were glad to see him leave.

I think Durbin playing his way to becoming a legitimate, all-around starting 3rd baseman really made it challenging to find obvious on-field upgrades. If they acquire Suarez, he is starting everyday at 3rd, right? So is he starting in Ortiz's place? Then you're doing musical chairs with the infield, and losing your best infield defender. Does Suarez start at DH? Then Yelich is in left, and Collins is on the bench. Does that make your team better? Since June 1st, Collins has a wRC+ of 152.

Do you replace Ortiz like-for-like? In an ideal world, yes. But other than Correa, which sounded like a unique case of his being okay to move to Houston, no better-than-Ortiz shortstops were available.

In terms of replacing the Monasterios and Seiglers of the world, it's also tricky. Those guys don't have a lot of hit-tool, but they do everything else decently enough. They can run a little, Seigler hits from both sides, they both looks competent in the field. I'm guessing they are great in the clubhouse, for what that's worth. They both have options, so when players come back from injury, or there's a brief roster crunch, they don't just have to be DFA'ed.

The Brewers improved with the Jansen trade. They improved with Shelby Miller. They mitigated challenges of outfield depth by adding a guy that replaces everything you get (except the bat) from Frelick/Chourio/Perkins/Collins.

[Lloyd330]

C-

When you are one of the best teams in Baseball and have chances to upgrade your team in areas that are needed, you need to worry less about winning a trade and more about winning a WS. 

Im so exited that a guy like Letson will be in our rotation come 2028

[narwhalattack]

B. Didn’t get anyone exciting, but also didn’t give up anyone important just for the sake of doing something. The left side of the infield is still not great, but considering that the best option in the market was a 34 year old one trick pony, I think we can assume that there wasn’t exactly an abundance of options.

[patrickgpe]

Deadline: B-. thats  just above average they got a (hopefully) high end reliever and didn't have to give up a prospect.

That being said, this thread misses the point, if you throw in Vaughn and Priester, its an A. If the brewers wanted to get a pitcher with 5 years of control and has won 9 straight decisions, the price would be enormous. Vaughn also would have cost way more than Civale. The trade deadline is just a day.

[Playing Catch]

1 hour ago, patrickgpe said:

If the brewers wanted to get a pitcher with 5 years of control and has won 9 straight decisions, the price would be enormous.

Seriously. What would Priester's value have been yesterday? Wow. Fangraphs projects him to collect a modest 4.3 WAR over the next 3 seasons. Mason Miller is projected to accumulate 3.1 WAR, just as a quick and dirty comparison.

[patrickgpe]

4 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Seriously. What would Priester's value have been yesterday? Wow.

more than Mason Miller I would think since he is a starter with as much control. Its why I cut ownership and Arnold some slack on their lack of activity since they did than any other team to improve their team prior to deadline week. 

[Playing Catch]

Just now, patrickgpe said:

more than Mason Miller I would think since he is a starter with as much control. Its why I cut ownership and Arnold slack on their lack of activity since they did than any other team to improve their team prior to deadline week. 

And at the time, the consensus was that the Brewers overpaid for him in prospect-terms, which many here want to do in order to demonstrate the team playing for 2025.

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

D

You bite the bullet with Ortiz"s bat and awesome defense.  The bench is still weak.  Willie Castro, Ahmed Rosario or IKF would have been great.

Mullins, Finnegan or Correa would have showed we are going for it.

Shelby Miller is a head scratcher.  I hope he's healthy.

Vaughn is what makes this a D.  I hope he keeps on raking.

Is Jansen that much better than Haase?

Frelick RF

Collins LF

Contreras C

Yelich DH

Vaughn 1B

Durbin 3B

Turang 2B

Perkins CF

Ortiz SS

Correa, Castro or Mullins would have really extended the line up.

 

 

[patrickgpe]

Castro would have been a great pickup to replace Montesario as a UIF. 

[Underachiever]

I don't know why people want to include non-deadline trades in a deadline thread. Priester wasn't anything resembling a deadline deal. Vaughn is deadline-adjacent, I'll give you that. I am disappointed they couldn't get a better infielder to replace Siegler or Monasterio. That seems like it could have been done for an acceptable cost. 

The deadline is its own entity. It's the last chance to change your roster, whether you are buying or selling. The pressures are different, the decisions are different. It's a picture of where the franchise's current health is. 

I think the health of the franchise is fine. Their approach to the deadline is the equivalent of eating right and exercising. Not sexy, but conducive to long-term health. Contrast that with the Padres fad diet, lap band, and liposuction approach to the deadline. Gets some noticeable results quickly, but who knows if it will last.

[CheeseheadInQC]

C-

The Padres deal is odd even if they think Cortes is cooked (at least for this year). I like the other deals they made. The lack of a shortstop was unfortunate but understandable. The best chance of getting one evaporated when the Marlins started winning and saw they could be a contender next year.

I hope that Siegler’s expected stats become his actual ones down the stretch. That would be a huge boost for the bench. It will be interesting to see which set of his current stats (real vs expected) is closer to his actual talent.