Cardinals at Brewers; Saturday, September 13 @ 7:15 p.m.: Jacob Misiorowski (4.09 ERA, 3.12 FIP) vs. Sonny Gray (4.45 ERA, 3.48 FIP)

[kevinisaname]

And they get the run back. Backbreaker.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

No good excuse for that pitch to big brother. Miz didn't execute great, but you gotta be out of the zone there. Contreras maybe needs a better call.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

It just feels like this team is running out of gas. The division race is over, but we have been on an extended period of meh here for a bit now. Need to find some mojo over the next couple weeks. 

[adambr2]

Hanging slider right down the middle.

This digging of his heels by Murphy on Miz is just so bizarre. He’s pacing way over any previous workload, he’s not been good most of the time, and frankly, his confidence is probably not in a great place at the moment. 

Let it go. Plenty of guys start in the pen. It’s not the time to try to be forcing a young pitcher to grow up. 

[jason21nl]

Somehow, against all odds, I actually hate Wilson Contreras more than neck tat.  And that’s saying something.   

[Bulldogboy]

Just now, OldSchoolSnapper said:

It just feels like this team is running out of gas. The division race is over, but we have been on an extended period of meh here for a bit now. Need to find some mojo over the next couple weeks. 

I know what you mean but if Cubs actually get hot for 2 weeks then it's not over. Unfortunately the manager appears to think it is over. That means it's going to be nip and tuck

[FidoMcCokefiend]

Just hope we can hold on to the 2 seed. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Not doing a great job at swinging at strikes tonight.

[82brewcrew82]

Don't worry, the Cubs lost so all is good.

[willie key]

4 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

It just feels like this team is running out of gas. The division race is over, but we have been on an extended period of meh here for a bit now. Need to find some mojo over the next couple weeks. 

This feels like you are trying to talk yourself into this at this point.    It’s only over if the cubs say it is.    If they lose a bunch of games against bad teams then yes.   But if we have to rely on ourselves it isn’t over.    We are just not good for awhile now.    When was the last time someone got a big hit when we were behind.    I don’t remember.   

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, willie key said:

This feels like you are trying to talk yourself into this at this point.    It’s only over if the cubs say it is.    If they lose a bunch of games against bad teams then yes.   But if we have to rely on ourselves it isn’t over.    We are just not good for awhile now.    When was the last time someone got a big hit when we were behind.    I don’t remember.   

No. It's over. The Cubs are 100% not winning the division. I actually can't believe two different people replied to that saying it's not. It is. 

I'm talking myself into it? They've been consistently 6 games back for 3 weeks. One of us is definitely talking themselves into something but it's not me. 

 

[Bulldogboy]

By the way is Vaughn officially in a platoon? Vaughn benched before Ortiz is very Murphy. 

[adambr2]

4 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

No. It's over. The Cubs are 100% not winning the division. I actually can't believe two different people replied to that saying it's not. It is. 

I'm talking myself into it? They've been consistently 6 games back for 3 weeks. One of us is definitely talking themselves into something but it's not me. 

 

While the second paragraph is true, the reason is because the Cubs haven’t gone on an extended hot run like the Phillies have. It wasn’t because we haven’t been giving them the opportunity. It wasn’t long ago that the Phillies were also 7+ back.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

While the second paragraph is true, the reason is because the Cubs haven’t gone on an extended hot run like the Phillies have. It wasn’t because we haven’t been giving them the opportunity. It wasn’t long ago that the Phillies were also 7+ back.

There's a point when you run out of time. Since reaching 59-39 the Cubs are 25-25. They have been a .500 team since the ASB and consistently lost to supposedly soft teams they were going to steamroll while we urinated ourselves and bowed to their greatness. 

They aren't winning the division. We left the door open for them and they didn't even walk onto the porch. There are only 13 games left. They will have to damn near win all of them, and even then it's highly possible they wouldn't make it up. 

 

 

 

 

[kevinisaname]

LOL, what was that? I think I'm done with the game for tonight.

[Sixtolezcano]

Pitching staff finally got burnt out due to Murphy overuse.

[willie key]

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

No. It's over. The Cubs are 100% not winning the division. I actually can't believe two different people replied to that saying it's not. It is. 

I'm talking myself into it? They've been consistently 6 games back for 3 weeks. One of us is definitely talking themselves into something but it's not me. 

 

They really are blowing it imo.    They should have made this closer.   We can’t win a series and who knows if we will again      Cubs win four in a row and they are in it again.     That wouldn’t be outrageous

[OldSchoolSnapper]

4 minutes ago, willie key said:

They really are blowing it imo.    They should have made this closer.   We can’t win a series and who knows if they will again      Cubs win four in a row and they are in it again.     That wouldn’t be outrageous

Just do the math. If they are 6GB with 12 left to play, 6-6 would require the Cubs to go 12-0. 

They could go 9-3 and the Brewers would stay in 1st by going 4-8. The Brewers have been middling. Not atrocious. They've basically been what the Cubs have been, thus the needle not moving at all for 3 weeks in either direction. 

[adambr2]

3 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

There's a point when you run out of time. Since reaching 59-39 the Cubs are 25-25. They have been a .500 team since the ASB and consistently lost to supposedly soft teams they were going to steamroll while we urinated ourselves and bowed to their greatness. 

They aren't winning the division. We left the door open for them and they didn't even walk onto the porch. There are only 13 games left. They will have to damn near win all of them, and even then it's highly possible they wouldn't make it up. 

 

 

 

 

I pretty much agree, but a few weeks ago even losing our grip on the 1 seed seemed pretty unrealistic.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

The margins are very thin for this team. If we are not hitting with RISP, taking extra bases, and stealing outs defensively, we will not win. We haven't done those things well enough during this mediocre stretch. You'd rather have it now than in two weeks.

[82brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

I pretty much agree, but a few weeks ago even losing our grip on the 1 seed seemed pretty unrealistic.

Which is now down to a game in the loss column.  

[Bulldogboy]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Just do the math. If they are 6GB with 12 left to play, 6-6 would require the Cubs to go 12-0. 

They could go 9-3 and the Brewers would stay in 1st by going 4-8. The Brewers have been middling. Not atrocious. They've basically been what the Cubs have been, this the needle not moving at all for 3 weeks in either direction. 

Brewers are not playing good baseball so it doesn't matter at this point. They have no momentum at all. Just win some games. They look terrible. 

[Samurai Bucky]

18 minutes ago, 82brewcrew82 said:

Don't worry, the Cubs lost so all is good.

The Phillies won, so all is not good.

[jw5511986]

Bullpen is starting to become very very concerning

[Bulldogboy]

😆 we look silly. Imagine watching this from around the country seeing the best team in baseball.