Brewers (Quintana) vs Dodgers (Ohtani): 10/17/25, 7:38pm

[OldSchoolSnapper]

4 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

I guess one can always take appreciation in the fact it wasn’t another choke job in the books. Honestly, they played better this series than I assumed going in. Our pitching showed up and balled out. But as I said before the series, the starting pitching is so lopsided in the Dodgers favor it isn’t even funny. Beating that was going to be a tall ask. Our hitters aren’t elite, even the good ones aren’t exactly All Star forces. Seems more likely to depend on lesser pitching stopping elite bats than it is for middling hitting to hit against the elite pitchers of the game.

Also, I’ll go against the grain a bit, I think Murphy’s pitching decisions were great. Every single one of them to be honest. We held them the 2/5/3 runs. The 5 run game involved 3/5 runs coming from our ace. Not sure what more you could ask for. While I thought using Uribe mid game in tight spots was bold…it was the right decision. Use your best guys when you need them most. No point waiting to be down 5 runs. Reality is, we were going to live or die on the backs of Ashby/Uribe pitching a lot. They weren’t going to chill and pitch every 3-4 days.

No need to sugar coat it, we never had a chance…and to no fault of our own. Maybe someday that changes, but for now, it’s time to just watch another big market trot to the World Series. History has told this story over and over again.

Yeah I think this is a solid take. It's more therapeutic to lament this substitution or this start than to just admit we were inferior, and unlike we usually can, we didn't make up for it on the margins. We couldn't be patient because they threw strikes. We couldn't do anything on the basepaths because we didn't get on base. They didn't need to make a lot of hustle defensive plays. Any flaw we had pitching was fatal because the margin for error was zero. 

[jay87shot]

I say go with Quintana, the vet likely has the best chance of pulling something out his behind. On top of that after seeing Misi and our other flame throwers yesterday Q's 90-93 should have them of balance.

[craigharmann]

1 hour ago, SeaBass said:

Honestly, thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

I think we all did.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

13 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I have no issues with using an opener, not even a little bit. My problem 100% revolves around using the same opener, against the same hitters, and just generally abusing a couple of relievers while several other decent arms ride the pine.

You cannot expect Aaron Ashby to succeed when he has to face Shohei Ohtani four times in five days. Ohtani (and Freeman) are going to figure him out at some point; it's inevitable.

The Brewers' primary weapon is depth, and Murphy isn't using it, like at all.

This is a fair criticism...agree and might have gone Koenig to open. 

[adambr2]

30 minutes ago, Yaz19 said:

Wonder if I will be turning the game off early again tonight?  Never thought I would shut off any of the games in the NLCS because the Brewers were so dreadfully comatose.   So far 3 of 3.  Yep, I missed frantic bottom of the 9th on Monday.  However, I did catch Turang striking out on a pitch at least a foot high on Gameday.

Murphy needs to name Quintana and actually manage a traditional baseball game.   These 'openers' really do show a lack of confidence or at times incompetence.

Tradionally managed baseball games still require runs to win, and we haven’t been scoring any. 

I don’t think it shows any lack of confidence or incompetence. It’s nothing more than trying to get a better matchup out of the gate against their two best hitters.

Quintana will probably start tonight, and they’ll probably go the more traditional route, but more because he happens to be lefty.

[RobertCrawley]

1 hour ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

The pitching choices have not hurt the Brewers outcomes in the slightest. Considering the opponent, it mostly worked out as intended. I can't pin this on one guy or moment, but that Turang Game 1 9th inning AB felt like the hole in the life boat. 

The pitching has made two of three winnable.

[treego14]

Our opener will start our season closer ...

Believe that and get labeled as a hoser!

The Brewers today will not be a loser!

This game will not be a snoozer!

[RobertCrawley]

https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/mlb/pope-leo-xiv-trolls-chicago-cubs-vatican-rcna237883

Pope Leo XIV trolls Chicago Cubs at Vatican

The pope, a Chicago native, was waving to a crowd at the Vatican on Wednesday when someone shouted, “Go Cubs!”

He immediately responded “Han perdido!” in Spanish, followed by “They lost!”

[willie key]

It’s crazy how we lose games 2-1 and 3-1 an everyone says we have no chance because of the system

i do think some of this is on the hitters.    Guys like Glasgow and snell are damn good but they aren’t sandy koufax.    I think we embarrassed ourselves some at the plate this series.     It isn’t all the “most unhittable pitchers in world history, we should give up”

[dlk9s]

56 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

The pitching has made two of three winnable.

It is kind of crazy that, despite how terrible the hitting has been, we're actually not that far from being up 2-1.

If Turang doesn't get out of the way of the pitch (and I don't blame him at all), we might have won. If Muncy doesn't make a great play yesterday, Bauers scores an early go-ahead run. One more well-timed hit in that game and things could be a lot different.

Not saying we "should have" won the games, just that we were actually pretty close.

[SeaBass]

1 hour ago, willie key said:

It’s crazy how we lose games 2-1 and 3-1 an everyone says we have no chance because of the system

i do think some of this is on the hitters.    Guys like Glasgow and snell are damn good but they aren’t sandy koufax.    I think we embarrassed ourselves some at the plate this series.     It isn’t all the “most unhittable pitchers in world history, we should give up”

I tend to agree. I think their pitchers have thrown well and the Brewers as a collective have been caught in a funk on offense. Unfortunately, that's baseball. You can be hot, you can be cold but cold teams in the playoffs don't often get the chance to turn the dial back around to hot.

[Simba2020]

1 hour ago, willie key said:

It’s crazy how we lose games 2-1 and 3-1 an everyone says we have no chance because of the system

i do think some of this is on the hitters.    Guys like Glasgow and snell are damn good but they aren’t sandy koufax.    I think we embarrassed ourselves some at the plate this series.     It isn’t all the “most unhittable pitchers in world history, we should give up”

But they collectively are Koufax (or better) right now. Last 4 games for Glasnow, 5 for Ohtani and 6 for Snell and Yamamoto they have covered 121 innings allowing 57 hits and striking out 137. Overall 0.75 WHIP and 0.97 ERA.

[ecjimg]

Hoskins should be on the roster and in the lineup as DH. 

[SeaBass]

1 minute ago, ecjimg said:

Hoskins should be on the roster and in the lineup as DH. 

Or CF, RF, 2B, SS, 1B, C. Take your pick.

[SeaBass]

3 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Lamenting the openers just feels like spleen venting. Ashby to go lefty lefty made sense. It's Brewers baseball. Those openers haven't lost these games. We can't hit. 

I'll stick this one out. Even if it's ugly we're about to lose baseball for 6 months. 

Unless the lockout effectively cancels the entire season.

[adambr2]

I have to say as well, it’s a good and fair take by @willie key. Yes it’s true that the Dodgers have a system advantage, but it’s hard to bemoan a system when even a moderate timely offensive outburst would have us up 2-1 going into Game 4. The Dodgers are beating us because our bats went cold at the worst possible time.

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, SeaBass said:

Unless the lockout effectively cancels the entire season.

I think it’s the 2027 season at risk, currently.

[brewers4eric]

No one thought we could take 3 straight from the Angels back in 1982.  Go Brewers.

 

[CheezWizHed]

2 hours ago, RobertCrawley said:

The pitching has made two of three winnable.

a game where we give up 5 runs should be winnable, too. 

[SeaBass]

8 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I think it’s the 2027 season at risk, currently.

Ahh, you're right. I read an article recently and assumed it was talking about next season.

ETA: That's 2 mistakes in 2 pages. I think I will refrain from posting again until this thread gets to at least page 4. 😆

[CheezWizHed]

3 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Lamenting the openers just feels like spleen venting. Ashby to go lefty lefty made sense. It's Brewers baseball. Those openers haven't lost these games. We can't hit. 

I'll stick this one out. Even if it's ugly we're about to lose baseball for 6 months. 

What exactly is spleen venting? 😂

IKYKY

[TURBO]

24 minutes ago, brewers4eric said:

No one thought we could take 3 straight from the Angels back in 1982.  Go Brewers.

 

The 2025 Dodgers are a far cry for the 1982 Angels, and we have to win 4 straight, not 3.

Sorry people, it's over.

[RobertCrawley]

25 minutes ago, TURBO said:

The 2025 Dodgers are a far cry for the 1982 Angels, and we have to win 4 straight, not 3.

Sorry people, it's over.

I'm not ready for our season to be over and then have to face the hard, bitter winds of winter.

Let's go!!!

[homer]

Season is over so considering locking the thread. Will consult with other mods.

[Ro Mueller]

On the one hand, this feels like the kind of game where we'll fall behind 8-0, ultimately lose 10-7, then search for silver linings in a failed late comeback.

On the other hand, the Brewers should understand as much as anyone how One Defeat can screw up an opposing team's best laid pitching plans. Just One Defeat of LA would leave them needing to win Game 5 in order to avoid travelling back to Milwaukee.

C'mon guys - throw a massive wrench in LA's plans.