Cardinals (May) vs Brewers (Patrick): 5/27/26, 12:40pm

[Jim French Stepstool]

I guess this is why you run-prevent. So you can be no-hit thru seven & still be in the game. So one or two mistakes by the opposition are one or two too many.

The boot by Wynn was huge, as was the botched defense on the Rengifo bunt. Given what we were trying to accomplish it was an excellent bunt, but the Cards really played it into a base hit. They get the out at 1st & it looks quite likely we don't score. But that takes nothing away from huge knocks by Mitchell & Yelich. You can see the confidence starting to ooze from #5.

Damn, was May good. Late-breaking sweep & cutter, put-it-right-where-I-want-to command, and just enough chasing & early swings from the Brewers to augment it. No-hit stuff.

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

34 minutes ago, Zad Fnark said:

I'm not sure he even threw a curve today.

I seem to remember one. Maybe another in there too.

The final pitch was magnificent. FB up, and I'm pretty sure Pozo was looking breaking ball.

[Jim French Stepstool]

14 minutes ago, Opening Day said:

I know many view wins-losses as an antiquated stat.  But if Ashby continues this pace (as a homer I have no reason to believe he wont) and goes 28-0 with an era around 2, Im going to use my non-existent Cy Young vote on him.

I brought up Elroy Face a couple weeks ago. Eighteen wins out of the Pittsburgh BP in '59. Ashby could go the next 28 games w/o a win & be on the same pace.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

12 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I guess this is why you run-prevent. So you can be no-hit thru seven & still be in the game. So one or two mistakes by the opposition are one or two too many.

The boot by Wynn was huge, as was the botched defense on the Rengifo bunt. Given what we were trying to accomplish it was an excellent bunt, but the Cards really played it into a base hit. They get the out at 1st & it looks quite likely we don't score. But that takes nothing away from huge knocks by Mitchell & Yelich. You can see the confidence starting to ooze from #5.

Damn, was May good. Late-breaking sweep & cutter, put-it-right-where-I-want-to command, and just enough chasing & early swings from the Brewers to augment it. No-hit stuff.

 

I was thinking about "run-prevention" after this one too.

This team has sort of combined the 2018 "out-getters" approach with the 2021/2023, where you just hope Tellez or somebody got into one and you could Burnes and bullpen your way to a 3-2 win.

The offense has nowhere near the thump of 2018, but I love the approach from the pitching and defense side. And the lineup is closer to very good than many here would like to believe. 

All of which is to say: I like this team. I think they could be pretty darn good. As always, it's baseball, but there's a lot to like about these guys.

[Underachiever]

Having all the offense happen in the 8th, to match Abner's 8th inning last night, is proof that Abner's behavior has the blessing of the baseball gods. Even they hate the Cardinals. 

[StearnsFTW]

18 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

I was thinking about "run-prevention" after this one too.

This team has sort of combined the 2018 "out-getters" approach with the 2021/2023, where you just hope Tellez or somebody got into one and you could Burnes and bullpen your way to a 3-2 win.

The offense has nowhere near the thump of 2018, but I love the approach from the pitching and defense side. And the lineup is closer to very good than many here would like to believe. 

All of which is to say: I like this team. I think they could be pretty darn good. As always, it's baseball, but there's a lot to like about these guys.

Agreed and it's not as if it would be terribly expensive to shore up the right side of the infield or just promote guys that are likely to be as good or better.

I would still like another reliever and another starter (not anyone expensive, just decent).  Replacing Woodford with a good reliever could make a big difference.

[Yaz19]

Ugly, but very effective win!  

[LouisEly]

37 minutes ago, Underachiever said:

Having all the offense happen in the 8th, to match Abner's 8th inning last night, is proof that Abner's behavior has the blessing of the baseball gods. Even they hate the Cardinals. 

It's the baseball gods saying, "You're excused... but don't do it again."

[RWeeksFan23]

2 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Not sure if this is just a one game thing but the Cardinals seem a lot better at challenging than us,

Turang in particular never seems to challenge pitches he should.

[wiguy94]

5 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

Turang in particular never seems to challenge pitches he should.

Turang has in fact never challenged a pitch call. Gary has challenged 16. The rest of the team has challenged 18 combined.

[RWeeksFan23]

i'm late to the party, but anyone else think that one ball was gone off the bat possibly, in the 9th inning off megill with like one out?

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

10 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

i'm late to the party, but anyone else think that one ball was gone off the bat possibly, in the 9th inning off megill with like one out?

Completely. Not quite as ripped as a few others today (maybe just got it a little up on the barrel), but if I hadn't have seen the "in play, out(s)" on Gameday before the TV feed, my heart would've skipped for sure.

It just wasn't carrying today. Cardinals had another like that in third, 103 mph off-the-bat and to right field. Like Lane (might have been Josh) said on the radio call, those usually leave the yard.

I thought Chourio really mashed his in the sixth--104 off-the-bat. Pretty routine fly ball.

It's a little bit strange to be rooting for those kinds of low run-environment conditions as a Brewer fan, but I think they definitely favor this team's style, both last year and (so far) this one.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

17 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Turang has in fact never challenged a pitch call. Gary has challenged 16. The rest of the team has challenged 18 combined.

You kind of wonder if some guys are just better off not worrying about it. Hitting is such a timing and focus thing, having the challenge in the back of your mind might not work well for everyone. When tennis had challenges, it messed with some players more than others. 

[BarremlensTSSC]

19 minutes ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

i'm late to the party, but anyone else think that one ball was gone off the bat possibly, in the 9th inning off megill with like one out?

I wasn't watching on TV but on gameday it scared the hell out of me.

[BarremlensTSSC]

So this topic is played out, but I just saw Marmol's interview where he basically admitted pointing in the way Uribe described, although he says his intent was "Be smart. Don't do it" and "You're going to get someone hurt".  The video clip of the gesture too.  I don't think it was remotely unreasonable or even mistaken for Uribe to interpret those gestures the way he did.  Still think what he did was stupid, but I said upthread that I thought he might have misinterpreted what Marmol did.  I don't think that's true.  Marmol can say he never had any intent to actually have his guys throw at anyone and that might even be true, but pointing at parts of your body and saying you were trying to tell them "you're going to get someone hurt" only makes sense if your intent is to relay the possibilty that someone was going to get thrown at.  

 

[yourout]

Has there ever been a reliever that got 20 wins while only starting one or two games?

[adambr2]

40 minutes ago, BarremlensTSSC said:

So this topic is played out, but I just saw Marmol's interview where he basically admitted pointing in the way Uribe described, although he says his intent was "Be smart. Don't do it" and "You're going to get someone hurt".  The video clip of the gesture too.  I don't think it was remotely unreasonable or even mistaken for Uribe to interpret those gestures the way he did.  Still think what he did was stupid, but I said upthread that I thought he might have misinterpreted what Marmol did.  I don't think that's true.  Marmol can say he never had any intent to actually have his guys throw at anyone and that might even be true, but pointing at parts of your body and saying you were trying to tell them "you're going to get someone hurt" only makes sense if your intent is to relay the possibilty that someone was going to get thrown at.  

 

Thank you. I can totally believe that there was some misinterpretations of intent, and I’m not excusing Abner’s actions, but I certainly wasn’t buying the idea that he decided to make up some big lie on the fly. 

No, he still shouldn’t have done it but obviously judging by the lack of drama today the Cardinals at least had some understanding of how things escalated and it wasn’t just some random thing. 

[ghostdrew]

3 hours ago, StearnsFTW said:

Agreed and it's not as if it would be terribly expensive to shore up the right side of the infield or just promote guys that are likely to be as good or better.

I would still like another reliever and another starter (not anyone expensive, just decent).  Replacing Woodford with a good reliever could make a big difference.

Yes we need to shore up the right side of the infield  are u sure about that dude 

[adambr2]

3 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I guess this is why you run-prevent. So you can be no-hit thru seven & still be in the game. So one or two mistakes by the opposition are one or two too many.

The boot by Wynn was huge, as was the botched defense on the Rengifo bunt. Given what we were trying to accomplish it was an excellent bunt, but the Cards really played it into a base hit. They get the out at 1st & it looks quite likely we don't score. But that takes nothing away from huge knocks by Mitchell & Yelich. You can see the confidence starting to ooze from #5.

Damn, was May good. Late-breaking sweep & cutter, put-it-right-where-I-want-to command, and just enough chasing & early swings from the Brewers to augment it. No-hit stuff.

 

All three of the plays (the double, the bunt single and the error in the 8th), were all probably playable with good defense.

Kind of crazy the minuscule difference there between a 2-1 win and taking a no-hitter into the bottom of the 9th.

[yourout]

Turang in a slump at the plate. 

4 for 24 with 12ks

[Samurai Bucky]

28 minutes ago, yourout said:

Turang in a slump at the plate. 

4 for 24 with 12ks

PRATT!!!!!

[BrewCrew8675309]

6 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

This is why imo Vaughn has to play every day. Your pitching is solid. Just plan on scoring 4 runs per game. No justification in having a 934 ops on your bench when your lineup is this bad.

Go look at his splits versus right-handed pitching. 

[Bulldogboy]

4 minutes ago, BrewCrew8675309 said:

Go look at his splits versus right-handed pitching. 

Go look at Frelick splits against lefties 

[yourout]

5 minutes ago, BrewCrew8675309 said:

Go look at his splits versus right-handed pitching. 

His career splits are ok but this year isnt as good on the small sample size.

[brewmann04]

Really tough win way to hang in