Casey McGehee traded to Pirates for reliever Jose Veras [Latest: Veras headed for arby hearing]

[trwi7]

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Edited 2/13: Updated thread title --cc

[brettac1]

YES!

[Oldcity]

Finally some good news. Halfway decent reliever too.

[jerichoholicninja]

That didn't take long.

[Funketown]

Starting at 1B, eh ESPN?

 

Here's to wishing McGehee the best of luck. He was a great guy during his time in Milwaukee, and it's unfortunate that he struggled so badly last season.

 

Veras looks like a pretty good high strikeout reliever. Penciling him in for a 3.50-3.75 ERA might not be unreasonable.

[wisniewski]

AWESOME. Simply, awesome.

[TheCrew07]

Normally I wouldn't be excited about swapping a position player for a reliever which I believe is a backwards move value wise, however given my dislike of the McGehee situation going all the way back to the summer of 2009 I'm relieved that he's gone.

[jjfanec]

Seems like a quality return for Casey after last year. Bullpen is starting to take shape. We had two guys to replace in Hawkins and Saito and hopefully Veras can replace one of them.

[thablingster]

Thanks for playing, Casey. From all accounts a great guy. Veras actually will slot into the bullpen nicely, it seems.

[SenatorShriv]

This is about what I expected to get in return for McGehee. Thanks for 2010 Casey and helping to beef up our bullpen for another playoff run in 2012. I'll avoid the topic of 2011...

This should ease some of the fears circulating out there that McGehee would platoon at first with Gamel.

[The Truth]

Surprised and pleased to see that we received someone with some value for McGehee. Jose Veras is a good strikeout pitcher (+10 K/9 in the last 2 years) who will help our bullpen

[Matt Breen]

Veras doesn't look like anything great, but he appears serviceable. That we got anything is cool.

 

Good luck to Casey.

[GamelToe]

I like Casey. I feel bad he struggled last year.

 

But at least he didn't sign that extension the Brewers offered last year...

[umphrey]

Cool, those high strike out guys can be useful when used as needed

[craigharmann]

So, that's how much leash McGehee will get! Good trade.

[Invader3K]

Kind of surprised McGehee was traded so soon after Ramirez was signed. Don't know enough about Veras to comment.

[The Truth]

Veras stats http://www.baseball-refer...layers/v/verasjo01.shtml

[jjkoestler]

I've never been a big fan of CM, but I think he has the potential to have a few more good seasons. Nice move for the Bucs.

[The Truth]

Veras doesn't have huge Splits issues that jump out (in terms of being much more effective vs rhb or lhb). He walks too many batters but he strikes a lot of people out too

 

Looks like an upgrade over Kameron Loe to me and at 6-6 245 an imposing presence

 

http://www.baseball-refer...erasjo01&year=Career&t=p

[endaround]

He's not an upgrade over Loe at all. He's a decent arm not much more than that. Basically an average short reliever.

[AdvantageSchneider]

Wow, the bucs must really be down on Pedro Alvarez.

 

Best of luck to Casey against all the other NL central teams but us. He seems like a good guy, and he gave us some solid years when we didn't any other options at 3rd and now it seems he also got us a decent reliever too.

[ramssuperbowl99]

Interesting math for 2012:
Casey McGehee + Yuni Betancourt + Prince Fielder = 6.3 WAR
Aramis Ramiez (3.6 WAR in 2011) + Alex Gonzalez (1.1 WAR in 2011) + Mat Gamel (estimated at 1.5 WAR) = 6.2 WAR

[JohnBriggs12]

I would guess Veras ERA is a little higher because the rest of the Pirate pen allowed his runners to score. He walks a few but doesn't allow many hits and strikeouts more than a guy per inning. Decent return. Good luck to Casey, a great family guy and a nice find by Melvin.

[The Truth]

He's not an upgrade over Loe at all. He's a decent arm not much more than that. Basically an average short reliever.

Kameron Loe has a much lower K/9 rate, a higher career WHIP and LHB's have a .837 OPS against Loe in his career (LHB's vs Veras have a .708 OPS) --- In what way is Loe a better pitcher or even as good as Veras?

[Jim Goulart]

Take care, Casey and family. You guys rock.

 

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