Game Thread (9/07/2022): Brewers (Lauer) at Rockies (Freeland) - 2:10 PM CDT

[Simba2020]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Last year he was one of the best hitters in baseball against LHP. If he had replicated that this season, we may not be talking about our struggles against LHP. But that seems to be gone now and he has no other leg to stand on, metaphorically speaking. 

But he wasn't signed to play only against lefties at that stupid salary. That's why I was 100% against his signing from the beginning.

[Nola Beery]

I just checked in and saw the score. I might have to sit this one out.

[phnxcrew]

This is looking more and more like a team that could only have hiura, yelich, Williams, Ashby and peralta on it next year.  Hopefully “bites of the apple” Lauer can still net a couple B prospects.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, Simba2020 said:

But he wasn't signed to play only against lefties at that stupid salary. That's why I was 100% against his signing from the beginning.

Yep. Definitely not one of Stearns' better moves. To be honest, I wouldn't mind if Stearns did leave after the season as it may be time for a fresh perspective with Arnold. Keep the system that he's developed, but let the deputy take over. 

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, phnxcrew said:

This is looking more and more like a team that could only have hiura, yelich, Williams, Ashby and peralta on it next year.  Hopefully “bites of the apple” Lauer can still net a couple B prospects.

I doubt they trade Woodruff AND Burnes. Nor do I think they tear it down. 

[YelichPosse]

Cause I’m free….. free falling! 

[phnxcrew]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I doubt they trade Woodruff AND Burnes. Nor do I think they tear it down. 

What they do will likely be different I agree…. I think a reset now could make this a heck of a team from 2024 and on..

[Brewcrew82]

8 minutes ago, phnxcrew said:

What they do will likely be different I agree…. I think a reset now could make this a heck of a team from 2024 and on..

I suspect there will be a significant youth movement with Frelick, Turang, Mitchell, Wiemer, etc. all playing significant roles, while long-time fixtures like Suter, Narvaez, etc. will be let loose. With a shrewd free agent signing/trade or two, could easily see them being right back at around 90 wins. 

[Jopal78]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I suspect there will be a significant youth movement with Frelick, Turang, Mitchell, Wiemer, etc. all playing significant roles, while long-time fixtures like Suter, Narvaez, etc. will be let loose. With a shrewd free agent signing/trade or two, could easily see them being right back at around 90 wins. 

Narvaez is a free agent. Why on earth would they let Suter "loose"?. He's a terrific lefty reliever and cheap, they'd easily be able to trade him if he's not in their plans of '23.

 

[Jopal78]

What the Brewers could really do improve one of their teams is get rid of Josh Mauer and Lane Grindle. These two guys are awful at what they do and would be addition by subtraction for the broadcasters.  

[Simba2020]

2 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Narvaez is a free agent. Why on earth would they "let loose" with Suter. A terrific lefty reliever, they'd easily be able to trade him. 

 

I never quite got all the Suter bashing earlier this year but I doubt he's really tradeable. For anything of value anyway. A pretty strong non-tender candidate to me.

[Brewcrew82]

8 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

Narvaez is a free agent. Why on earth would they let Suter "loose"?. He's a terrific lefty reliever and cheap, they'd easily be able to trade him. 

 

"Let loose" as in not making an effort to resign him, and going with a young talent like Feliciano instead. Suter is not "terrific" he's slightly above replacement level. They may keep him anyways, but he could easily be traded/non-tendered. 

[GoBrewers1982]

I forgot got to add. The No hitting or pitching games! Time to rebuild, please! A lot of value can be added with moving Burns and Woodruff! 

[Robocaller]

18 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I suspect there will be a significant youth movement with Frelick, Turang, Mitchell, Wiemer, etc. all playing significant roles, while long-time fixtures like Suter, Narvaez, etc. will be let loose. With a shrewd free agent signing/trade or two, could easily see them being right back at around 90 wins. 

Who are these FA signings that can make a big difference? I looked around and the only one that would be more than a marginal change would be somehow convincing Arenado to come to MKE, which is not going to happen. They can make a marginal change by signing a reliever or two, but beyond that, there's not a lot of opportunity. It's quite possible our biggest FA signing will be Jace Peterson.

 

[Robocaller]

13 minutes ago, Simba2020 said:

I never quite got all the Suter bashing earlier this year but I doubt he's really tradeable. For anything of value anyway. A pretty strong non-tender candidate to me.

Earlier in the year it was earned--he pitched badly whenever he came in in a highly leveraged situation. He started to perform better.

[Brewcrew82]

6 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

Who are these FA signings that can make a big difference? I looked around and the only one that would be more than a marginal change would be somehow convincing Arenado to come to MKE, which is not going to happen. They can make a marginal change by signing a reliever or two, but beyond that, there's not a lot of opportunity. It's quite possible our biggest FA signing will be Jace Peterson.

 

I'm not talking about spending with the big boys. Teams like the Brewers will always have to sign and trade at the margins. That's what they've done over the last 5-6 years and it's worked out really well for the most part with 4 consecutive playoff appearances. For example, who thought Hunter Renfroe was an option at the beginning of the offseason last year, and look how that's turned out for us. Another shrewd move or two like that, combined with better health from your ace 20-something pitchers and then you're really cooking. 

[Robocaller]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I'm not talking about spending with the big boys. Teams like the Brewers will always have to sign and trade at the margins. That's what they've done over the last 5-6 years and it's worked out really well with 4 consecutive playoff appearances. For example, who thought Hunter Renfroe was an option at the beginning of the offseason last year, and look how that's turned out for us. Another move or two like that, combined with better health from your ace 20-something pitchers and then you're really cooking. 

But there's no place to put them, unless you aren't going with youngsters at CF. If they want to improve 3B or 1B or C, they need to do it with a trade. Other than Arenado, there's no FA who's a significant upgrade to Peterson at 3B. 

[Simba2020]

5 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

Earlier in the year it was earned--he pitched badly whenever he came in in a highly leveraged situation. He started to perform better.

He was getting trashed in June and July when his FIP was under 4 which is ok and right where it was last year. He's been horrible with inherited runners throughout his career so he never should be brought in that situation. Unfortunately CC hasn't figured that out still.

[Robocaller]

Was Peterson actually throwing sliders? That's what game track showed. Topping out at 83, with the rest all in the 50s mph.

 

[Sixtolezcano]

32 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I suspect there will be a significant youth movement with Frelick, Turang, Mitchell, Wiemer, etc. all playing significant roles, while long-time fixtures like Suter, Narvaez, etc. will be let loose. With a shrewd free agent signing/trade or two, could easily see them being right back at around 90 wins. 

When? In 2025 or 2026?

 

[Robocaller]

Hey, we won the last 6 innings! Something to build on!

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

When? In 2025 or 2026?

 

Next season. After all, we won 95 games last year and remain on pace for the mid 80s in wins this year. 

[Nola Beery]

28 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

What the Brewers could really do improve one of their teams is get rid of Josh Mauer and Lane Grindle. These two guys are awful at what they do and would be addition by subtraction for the broadcasters.  

I respectfully disagree.  They're better than other announcers out there, and I have listened around.  I liked Levering & Grindle last year.

[BruisedCrew]

The Brewers can usually be counted on to pad their stats in the late innings of games that are hopelessly lost. 

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, BruisedCrew said:

The Brewers can usually be counted on to pad their stats in the late innings of games that are hopelessly lost. 

To be fair, Lauer didn't give them much of a shot to begin with.