Opening Day Roster

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I think we will maybe see Winker in the lineup instead of Voit, and maybe a few guys get shuffled around a bit (Anderson hitting higher and Mitchell lower), but this is probably pretty close the lineup we'll see on opening day.

[wibadgers23]

So Anderson in RF, Turang at 2B, Urias at 3B.  Anderson shifts to 3B and Urias to 2B against lefties. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

15 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

So Anderson in RF, Turang at 2B, Urias at 3B.  Anderson shifts to 3B and Urias to 2B against lefties. 

That may eventually be what they do, but probably not right away. The simpler answer against lefty pitching is likely simply swapping out Turang for Owen Miller.

[sveumrules]

22 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

That may eventually be what they do, but probably not right away. The simpler answer against lefty pitching is likely simply swapping out Turang for Owen Miller.

Miller has a 65 wRC+ for his career vs LHP. I'd hope they'd go with Brosseau (career 117 wRC+ vs LHP) instead.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

3 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Miller has a 65 wRC+ for his career vs LHP. I'd hope they'd go with Brosseau (career 117 wRC+ vs LHP) instead.

Good point. I keep forgetting Brousseau is on the team for some reason LOL. So he'd play 3rd and Urias would shift to 2nd. Anderson stays in RF.

[sveumrules]

At least with Voit, I can squint and see the upside with a 140 wRC+ vs LHP from 2018-20. I don't think he'll get back there, but even something like his career 110 mark against southpaws would be a big upgrade over Hiura anyway.

With Miller, I just don't see it. The minor league track record is nice, but the MLB results have been ugly pretty much across the board. Among 261 players with at least 600 PAs over the last two years he is at...

-0.4 WAR (247th) 74 wRC+ (244th) .231 AVG (211th) 6.1 BB% (214th) .107 ISO (234th) Even his 91st percentile speed according to StatCast has resulted in -1.4 BSR.  

I guess he's our best defensive 1B?

[KeithStone53151]

1 hour ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

That may eventually be what they do, but probably not right away. The simpler answer against lefty pitching is likely simply swapping out Turang for Owen Miller.

I don't think you generally turn a top prospect into a platoon bat upon hitting the majors, especially one that was slightly better statistically against LHP in the minors. Turang plays pretty much everyday at 2b regardless of RH vs LH starter...

Most likely against LH starter we'll see something like Yelich/Mitchell/Anderson OF, Urias/Adames/Turang/Brosseau IF, Voit or Miller DH. Miller might play the field over someone but most likely those 9 guys are the guys against lefties...

[Joseph Zarr]

On my side of the fence, I can tell you I am absolutely stoked to watch the upcoming Sounds 3-game series (Saturday Game 1) versus the Louisville Bats. It is shaping up to be another electric season for the Crew's Triple-A affiliate. Here's hoping they can give us another thrilling season - all the ingredients are there for some fireworks.  

[Baldkin]

2 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Turang is our backup SS isn't he? Who else are we entrusting SS to defensively behind Adames. 

Anderson at 3b. Urias at 2b. Turang Brosseau bench bats.

Wiemer in the OF now I see.

 

Urias played 200 innings at SS last year. 

I'm sure he'd be considered. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, sveumrules said:

At least with Voit, I can squint and see the upside with a 140 wRC+ vs LHP from 2018-20. I don't think he'll get back there, but even something like his career 110 mark against southpaws would be a big upgrade over Hiura anyway.

With Miller, I just don't see it. The minor league track record is nice, but the MLB results have been ugly pretty much across the board. Among 261 players with at least 600 PAs over the last two years he is at...

-0.4 WAR (247th) 74 wRC+ (244th) .231 AVG (211th) 6.1 BB% (214th) .107 ISO (234th) Even his 91st percentile speed according to StatCast has resulted in -1.4 BSR.  

I guess he's our best defensive 1B?

And he's a homeboy?? lol Gotta sell tickets, right? 

[brewcrewdue80]

2 hours ago, Baldkin said:

Urias played 200 innings at SS last year. 

I'm sure he'd be considered. 

Sure but he should be 3rd in line now defensively at SS.  I'm approaching Turang as this year's Jace Peterson while Urias is this years Wong. And Anderson should be the 3b most days. I don't expect as constructed and Healthy, Turang to see 300+PAs. If he does it's because an injury to Adames or Urias flat tanks and Brice us the better option starting at 2nd. Turang to me isn't a full time player til after Adames and or Urias are gone from roster. He doesn't have the upside power bat to insert himself as an everyday player until there's a larger sample size what he'll be like batting. It appears this also is why Frelick isn't breaking camp for OD. Of the 3 he has the lowest power.

 

[MVP2110]

Turang going with the number 0 according to Brewers.com

[Jake McKibbin]

12 hours ago, sveumrules said:

At least with Voit, I can squint and see the upside with a 140 wRC+ vs LHP from 2018-20. I don't think he'll get back there, but even something like his career 110 mark against southpaws would be a big upgrade over Hiura anyway.

With Miller, I just don't see it. The minor league track record is nice, but the MLB results have been ugly pretty much across the board. Among 261 players with at least 600 PAs over the last two years he is at...

-0.4 WAR (247th) 74 wRC+ (244th) .231 AVG (211th) 6.1 BB% (214th) .107 ISO (234th) Even his 91st percentile speed according to StatCast has resulted in -1.4 BSR.  

I guess he's our best defensive 1B?

Interestingly the last time he was actually healthy was 2020... glimmer of hope at least, but thankfully he's not below average vs lefties even when he's struggling more

[Playing Catch]

While its possible the Brewers are manipulating service time for Wiemer and Frelick, it's justifiable as they are not currently on the 40-man. That allows the Brewers to hang onto other assets as long as possible.

[DR28]

Think we have our answer, CC said Anderson will be in RF quite a bit.

Turang 2B, Urias 3B, Anderson RF.

Would imagine our lineup looking like this:

Yelich LF

Winker DH

Adames SS

Tellez 1B

Contreras C

Urias 3B

Mitchell CF

Anderson RF

Turang 2B

[KeithStone53151]

Voit has been a part of some pretty good lineups, let's hope he's right.

[wibadgers23]

2 hours ago, DR28 said:

Think we have our answer, CC said Anderson will be in RF quite a bit.

Turang 2B, Urias 3B, Anderson RF.

Would imagine our lineup looking like this:

Yelich LF

Winker DH

Adames SS

Tellez 1B

Contreras C

Urias 3B

Mitchell CF

Anderson RF

Turang 2B

Mitchell and Turang are big question marks but this certainly feels like a deeper lineup than last year, particularly with Brosseau, Voit and Miller coming off the bench. 

[Outlander]

1 minute ago, wibadgers23 said:

Mitchell and Turang are big question marks but this certainly feels like a deeper lineup than last year, particularly with Brosseau, Voit and Miller coming off the bench. 

I don't see it. Brosseau is still Brosseau, Voit probably won't outproduce Hiura's production from '22 and Miller isn't likely to be a 2 WAR player like Jace. However, it won't be difficult for Mitchell to match what Cain was doing to start the year in '22.

[wallus]

That looks like the best defense in baseball to me with 3 guys that could play shortstop in the infield.

[KeithStone53151]

42 minutes ago, Outlander said:

I don't see it. Brosseau is still Brosseau, Voit probably won't outproduce Hiura's production from '22 and Miller isn't likely to be a 2 WAR player like Jace. However, it won't be difficult for Mitchell to match what Cain was doing to start the year in '22.

I think you're not giving Brosseau enough credit. Look at his numbers last year and in spring. He's also at that age that guys tend to have career years...

[TURBO]

59 minutes ago, wallus said:

That looks like the best defense in baseball to me with 3 guys that could play shortstop in the infield.

Rowdy questionable defense

Yelich, no throwing arm in LF

Contreras average defense for his position

Urias doesn't have the arm to be an elite 3B

Anderson in RF, I have no clue what his defense is like.

That stacks up to an average defense at best, and not even close to or in the same ballpark as the best defense in baseball.

 

 

[MVP2110]

1 minute ago, TURBO said:

Rowdy questionable defense

Yelich, no throwing arm in LF

Contreras average defense for his position

Urias doesn't have the arm to be an elite 3B

Anderson in RF, I have no clue what his defense is like.

That stacks up to an average defense at best, and not even close to or in the same ballpark as the best defense in baseball.

 

 

Mitchell is an elite defensive CF, Adames & Turang are also elite at SS & 2b respectively. Anderson is above average in RF, Urias at 3b, Contreras at C, and Yelich in LF are all average to slightly above average. Rowdy is the only one who is an actual bad defenders. I'm not sure specifically on other teams but I'd absolutely guess that the Brewers will have one of the best defenses in MLB this year

[TURBO]

Just now, MVP2110 said:

Mitchell is an elite defensive CF, Adames & Turang are also elite at SS & 2b respectively. Anderson is above average in RF, Urias at 3b, Contreras at C, and Yelich in LF are all average to slightly above average. Rowdy is the only one who is an actual bad defenders. I'm not sure specifically on other teams but I'd absolutely guess that the Brewers will have one of the best defenses in MLB this year

Then we will just have to agree to disagree.  To me, that is an average defense.

[wallus]

7 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Rowdy questionable defense

Yelich, no throwing arm in LF

Contreras average defense for his position

Urias doesn't have the arm to be an elite 3B

Anderson in RF, I have no clue what his defense is like.

That stacks up to an average defense at best, and not even close to or in the same ballpark as the best defense in baseball.

 

 

With the shift rules in place, range >> arm in the infield and Urias should be above average again there. Anderson is fine and will be replaced by Taylor which he will be well above average. Rowdy isn't great but most 1B are not and Yelich is fine. 

Mitchell and Adames have legit chances at gold gloves.

Take a look at the rest of baseball and you will see this is an awesome defense.

[MVP2110]

24 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Then we will just have to agree to disagree.  To me, that is an average defense.

Can you name 10 or so teams with a better defense? Not many defense have 3 truly elite defenders