Brewers (Burnes!) vs Cardinals (Liberatore): 5/17/23, 6:45pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

The Brewers have Burnes on the mound against a 23-year-old pitcher with only a handful of career starts, none this season.

Get the series win, boys.

[Jake McKibbin]

Liberatore was pitching incredibly well in his first few starts in the minors, but the last few have been rougher. he's built up to go around 100 pitches, and his strikeout rate is much improved from last season with a couple of ticks extra on the fastball.

his main wipeout pitch is the curveball, with a decent change-up he reserves for right handers only, and a high velo slider

Can have a tendency to miss the strike zone and nibble too much, with his more recent outings taking high pitch counts through less than five innings, and walk rate was a big issue last season

He could be very nervy, and again a good start will be crucial, the Brewers can't let him settle easily

[igor67]

Today is a great day for Burnes to pitch a shutout.

[Jake McKibbin]

1 minute ago, igor67 said:

Today is a great day for Burnes to pitch a complete game shutout maddux.

Fixed that for you bro

[Brewcrew82]

It’s only mid-May, obviously, but this would be a big win, considering the next time we play the Cards is in mid-September. Harder to make up the ground they’ll have to make up with zero head to heads until September. 

We’ll need a 6/7 inning start from Corbin, but I hope CC doesn’t shy from using Devin and Strzelecki if need be with the day off tomorrow. 

[Lathund]

Lined up against 87 year old Adam Wainwright. Cardinals decide to cheat by getting a lefty instead. Rude!

[treego14]

[WV Brew]

I would like to see the Brewers flip Wiemer and Taylor in the outfield.  Taylor is their best CF (other than perhaps Harrison).  Wiemer seems more comfortable in right.  This is not because Joey missed that ball yesterday.  Contreras, as mentioned by Rottino in the broadcast, is looking tired right now.  Balls are getting by him that were not earlier in the season.  Maybe get rid of Ruf and bring up Henry as a 3rd catcher?  That would allow more rest for Contreras.  He could DH the lefties.

[Brewcrew82]

29 minutes ago, WV Brew said:

I would like to see the Brewers flip Wiemer and Taylor in the outfield.  Taylor is their best CF (other than perhaps Harrison).  Wiemer seems more comfortable in right.  This is not because Joey missed that ball yesterday.  Contreras, as mentioned by Rottino in the broadcast, is looking tired right now.  Balls are getting by him that were not earlier in the season.  Maybe get rid of Ruf and bring up Henry as a 3rd catcher?  That would allow more rest for Contreras.  He could DH the lefties.

I don't think we need to call up Henry, but we definitely need to get Contreras more at-bats at DH. That's something I've been advocating for pretty strongly. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

37 minutes ago, WV Brew said:

I would like to see the Brewers flip Wiemer and Taylor in the outfield.  Taylor is their best CF (other than perhaps Harrison).  Wiemer seems more comfortable in right.  This is not because Joey missed that ball yesterday.  Contreras, as mentioned by Rottino in the broadcast, is looking tired right now.  Balls are getting by him that were not earlier in the season.  Maybe get rid of Ruf and bring up Henry as a 3rd catcher?  That would allow more rest for Contreras.  He could DH the lefties.

It's my opinion that third catchers are almost always a mistake.

Using up a valuable roster spot just in case that 1% chance happens where you lose a DH for a partial game is not worth the trade-off. If you want to DH Contreras more often, and I think that's a good idea, just DH him and roll the dice on potentially losing a DH for a couple of innings in one game.

[markedman5]

I know there was some discussion about Devin’s pitch to Contreras on 1-2 count last night……..I mentioned it was a bad pitch that led to a misplay.

Devin was harsher then I was

“I’m used to Joey catching everything, so it was a little surprising,” Williams said. “But I can’t be mad at him. That guy has saved runs for us all year, and aside from that, it was a terrible pitch. So I kind of deserved that one.”

[igor67]

It's also a good teammate move by Devin, you want Joey not worried about his defense so hopefully he breaks out on offense.

[markedman5]

 

[wiguy94]

5 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

So this means barring a phantom injury to get Rea back on the 26-man roster, that Junk will probably make the next start in place of Miley.

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, WV Brew said:

I would like to see the Brewers flip Wiemer and Taylor in the outfield.  

I actually was assuming they'd do that when Taylor came back. But Wiemer has looked comfy in CF & Taylor made those great throws right off the bat playing RF, so I guess they left well enough alone. Long term though, I believe Wiemer is potentially a GG caliber right fielder. I assume that's where he eventually settles in.

[markedman5]

They didn’t sign Ruf to get rid of him after 1 game and bring up a 3rd catcher.

Another days rest for Yelich……..with a lefty going and a day off tomorrow it’s not the worse thing in the world…..just hope he can get back soon

 

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

I look at todays' game & it puts me to mind of game 3 vs LAD last week. LA had to use their bullpen for IIRC 8 innings the day before & really wanted a long start. Presto, Golden Boy goes out there, goes deep into the game & keeps his pitch count real tidy; just what they were looking for. We could really use something similar from Burnes tonight. Recent starts haven't left me overly confident it'll happen but he's certainly capable.

Time to step up.

[wildcat2237]

Only the stupid Cardinals would schedule a night game on get-away day. 

[wiguy94]

5 minutes ago, wildcat2237 said:

Only the stupid Cardinals would schedule a night game on get-away day. 

Don't teams have the option of keeping it as a night game if they visiting team has a day off the following day?

[Jim French Stepstool]

6 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Don't teams have the option of keeping it as a night game if they visiting team has a day off the following day?

I seem to remember something like that, but I don't know if it's an actual rule or a gentlemens' agreement-type thing. Either way I'm sure that organizations' superior knowledge of all things baseball-decorum related would supercede🙄.

We have tomorrow off, and they stay in town so no real biggie.

[AKCheesehead]

39 minutes ago, wildcat2237 said:

Only the stupid Cardinals would schedule a night game on get-away day. 

It seemed to me like the Pirates kind of invented that little stunt a few years back.

[markedman5]

Yelich is out for the second day in a row with some back tightness. He said he first felt it Sunday but it flared up worse during the series opener in St . Louis. 

“Take a few days, get it right,” Yelich said. “Hopefully good to go soon.”

[treego14]

[SomewhereInTime]

Is there any news on what happened to Wainwright?

[wiguy94]

Just now, SomewhereInTime said:

Is there any news on what happened to Wainwright?

Nothing. His start was just pushed back a day to get another LHP to face us.