Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville

[rickh150]

We even have a 26 man roster now (since 2020) instead of 25, and we still hear the defensive thing for a quality bat at DH!

[Samurai Bucky]

1 hour ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

3PO...is that something from star wars?  I think you mean 3TO...

I used the Three Possible Outcomes instead of Three True Outcomes.  I apologize... 

[Axman59]

9 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I wouldn't have any problem with Hiura getting a chance over Winker at this point because it's hard to do worse than Winker has done, and the Brewers would be well-served to find out what he's got before the deadline.

 

Well that's a start toward making the team better.

[yourout]

On 7/10/2023 at 4:09 PM, Brewcrew82 said:

I wouldn't have any problem with Hiura getting a chance over Winker at this point because it's hard to do worse than Winker has done, and the Brewers would be well-served to find out what he's got before the deadline. But, like Winker, his terrible defense and lack of defensive value/versatility means he needs to hit at a certain level for him to be more than a replacement-level player. 

There's zero guarantee that Hiura would hit at that level, and his K rate, which has gotten worse and worse since 2019, doesn't inspire a ton of optimism that he would get there. 

Could he be an improvement over Winker? Very possibly. Is he likely to solve the Brewers' DH woes? No. 

Amen.....that's were I am at. Give him another shot but don't expect much. It's mostly a testament to how terrible the production has been at 1st and DH that He is even an option.

[CheezWizHed]

Its too bad Huira was hurt earlier or he might've gotten a shot when Winker was injured.  Then we could go into the trade deadline knowing if he could be an upgrade or not.  Well, actually... I think he is clearly an upgrade on today's Winker, so perhaps that should be "how much of an upgrade?" 

You roll the dice not making a bigger move at DH on the hopes that Huira is a positive WAR for the rest of the year.   But perhaps a move at 1B and Huira at DH lessens that risk. 

Whatever happens, Winker needs to be removed from CC's options so he stops putting top-3 in the lineup. blah...

[rickh150]

#2 Winker, #3 Adames, #4 Tellez….Just awful top of order, and this was fairly usual this first half. 
 

 

[Axman59]

4 hours ago, rickh150 said:

#2 Winker, #3 Adames, #4 Tellez….Just awful top of order, and this was fairly usual this first half. 
 

 

🤮

[wallus]

With the extra Wild Card, there may not be a lot of teams selling. It seems like the trade market may be a major sellers market and it might make more sense to give Keston another shot versus a trade.

[rickh150]

17 hours ago, wallus said:

With the extra Wild Card, there may not be a lot of teams selling. It seems like the trade market may be a major sellers market and it might make more sense to give Keston another shot versus a trade.

Regardless of trade market…

[Jim French Stepstool]

24 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Regardless of trade market…

 You may think he should get another chance regardless, and you may be right. But I think the tone of the trade market as it unfolds may be a very big factor in whether he receives that chance.

[KeithStone53151]

17 hours ago, wallus said:

With the extra Wild Card, there may not be a lot of teams selling. It seems like the trade market may be a major sellers market and it might make more sense to give Keston another shot versus a trade.

That generally makes sense. Back when 4 teams made the playoffs, you might have 6 to 8 teams at most in each league trying to win and the other 7 to 9 as sellers. Now 6 make the playoffs. The only guaranteed sellers so far in the NL are the nationals, cardinals, and rockies. The cardinals also probably won't sell stars as they'll retool for 2024. The padres, pirates, cubs, and mets are potential sellers...but one good week of baseball could easily change that equation. The other 8 teams will be buyers unless they have a catastrophic losing streak out of the gate. So the ratio is 8 buyers, 3 sellers, 4 maybes. I assume the ratio is similar in the AL. Definitely going to be more of a sellers market at deadlines going forward.

[Outlander]

18 hours ago, wallus said:

With the extra Wild Card, there may not be a lot of teams selling. It seems like the trade market may be a major sellers market and it might make more sense to give Keston another shot versus a trade.

Maybe Arnold is really forward thinking and realizes there will be no bats available after the trade deadline so teams may be willing to give up prospects for non 40 man Hiura after the trade deadline.

[rickh150]

Career .973 OPS in July

 

[edfunderburk]

I hope Hiura is a “throw in” for any potential trade in the next few weeks so people will stop suggesting him as a candidate for promotion to the 26-man roster

[rickh150]

16 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I hope Hiura is a “throw in” for any potential trade in the next few weeks so people will stop suggesting him as a candidate for promotion to the 26-man roster

Just seems so obvious…. We have a DH spot just sitting here doing next to nothing.

[edfunderburk]

16 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Just seems so obvious…. We have a DH spot just sitting here doing next to nothing.

I understand & agree Winker should be replaced as the everyday DH

I’m not convinced that Hiura is the solution … but any change would be welcomed

[Jopal78]

Well. Rowdy is out until September and when Anderson went on the DL, they called up Jones. 
 

Sure doesnt look like Hiura’s getting another shot in Milwaukee 

[benji]

They needed another defender on the infield. Keston would get called if they eventually decide to DFA Winker. Cant have 2 non-defensive players on the 26

[treego14]

https://reviewingthebrew.com/posts/brewers-now-finally-time-add-keston-hiura-back-roster

[Outlander]

Pat Murphy on the Brewers post game show on 97.3 said he wouldn't be surprised to see Hiura sometime soon. Isn't a yes but surprised he would say that much.

[Jake McKibbin]

He hasn't shown the high quality contact so far post injury, or actually he did but not so much the last week or two. Hopefully some big games and they can make use of him after that, but he'll definitely need a little confidence in his swing

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, Jake McKibbin said:

He hasn't shown the high quality contact so far post injury, or actually he did but not so much the last week or two. Hopefully some big games and they can make use of him after that, but he'll definitely need a little confidence in his swing

Yeah, still only at a 106 wRC+ in 97 PAs post-injury versus a 155 wRC+ in his 134 PAs pre-injury.

[Fear The Chorizo]

2 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Yeah, still only at a 106 wRC+ in 97 PAs post-injury versus a 155 wRC+ in his 134 PAs pre-injury.

I believe he also recently got HBP in the head, luckily avoiding some serious damage but something of note.  K rate for the year right at 24%.  Even through his recent scuffling it's not like he's going ofer with 3-4 K's a night.

If he's healthy, Hiura should already be in Milwaukee compared to what they have taking those DH at bats currently.  Winker sits at 66 wRC+ at present with zero indication he's regained any power potential post- offseason surgery to justify counting on him to return to anything like he was offensively 2021 and earlier.  Unfortunately for him as a player, he's washed.

[treego14]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2023/07/19/could-brewers-call-up-keston-hiura-to-help-improve-the-offense/70429307007/

[Fear The Chorizo]

8 minutes ago, treego14 said:

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2023/07/19/could-brewers-call-up-keston-hiura-to-help-improve-the-offense/70429307007/

From that article, that CC quote about not being sure there are enough at bats at DH for Hiura due to Winker being on the roster is downright maddening.