August Prospect Voting Time!

[Brewcrew82]

25 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

 

Perez , Mendez, and big ticket sign Kevin Euro are examples of Stearns revamped efforts. Much work needs to be done yet. 

As are Jackson Chourio, Abner Uribe, Jeferson Quero, Yophery Rodriguez (you mentioned Eureu.

[sveumrules]

8 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

 

Perez , Mendez, and big ticket sign Kevin Euro are examples of Stearns revamped efforts. Much work needs to be done yet. 

The hit rate for international prospects is extremely small because developing foreign teenagers is a long, hard process.

That Stearns and company have Uribe already contributing with Chourio and Quero not that far off, after taking over an organization with such a dismal track record on the international front, could be interpreted as signs of progress.

Or maybe not, who knows, I don’t pretend to know the future with any degree of certainty. What fun would that be?

I do know that his name is Kevin Ereu though, and he’s the same age as a high school junior so writing him off as some kind of bust just because he didn’t immediately hit the ground running in the DSL is probably a little pre-mature, even if the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against him (or any other million dollar international teenager) ever becoming an MLB star.

[Brock Beauchamp]

37 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Which college/HS did Abner Uribe go to? Quero is looking like a pretty nice outlier so far too, up to #34 on the MLB Top 100.

Stearns & company overhauled the international department some years ago, and we’re now starting to see the fruits of those labors. Results from past regimes are of minimal relevance at this point.

Yeah, the Brewers were something of a laughing stock in the international market but that has been changing for years and we're seeing the first crop of guys approach the majors.

[CheeseheadInQC]

15 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

 

Perez , Mendez, and big ticket sign Kevin Euro are examples of Stearns revamped efforts. Much work needs to be done yet. 

Because every prospect should be expected to work out …

Also, of the 168 players with at least 100 plate appearances in the Midwest League this season, Mendez is the second youngest and is I believe one day older than the youngest. Way too soon to be saying he is a failed prospect.

[Brock Beauchamp]

@clancyphile sorry, spaced on this, I've added the two prospects you def wanted in your top 20.

[Never Outhustled]

3 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

The hit rate for international prospects is extremely small because developing foreign teenagers is a long, hard process.

That Stearns and company have Uribe already contributing with Chourio and Quero not that far off, after taking over an organization with such a dismal track record on the international front, could be interpreted as signs of progress.

Or maybe not, who knows, I don’t pretend to know the future with any degree of certainty. What fun would that be?

I do know that his name is Kevin Ereu though, and he’s the same age as a high school junior so writing him off as some kind of bust just because he didn’t immediately hit the ground running in the DSL is probably a little pre-mature, even if the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against him (or any other million dollar international teenager) ever becoming an MLB star.

I totally agree that there's signs of progress, just saying that Perez and Mendez are perfect examples of who our top 20 shouldn't be littered with international signings. We have actual prospects performing states side, no need for a DSL flavor of the week in our top 20.

[Never Outhustled]

9 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

As are Jackson Chourio, Abner Uribe, Jeferson Quero, Yophery Rodriguez (you mentioned Eureu.

Lol, now your expecting every prospect to Chourio? Sorry to tell you, we haven't signed any more Chourio's. Remember that whole wave that's at Wisconsin now? Huge rankings for guys like Garcia?

Be realistic. 

[Brewcrew82]

12 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

Lol, now your expecting every prospect to Chourio? Sorry to tell you, we haven't signed any more Chourio's. Remember that whole wave that's at Wisconsin now? Huge rankings for guys like Garcia?

Be realistic. 

lol. I’m not. Simply presenting the facts.

Chourio is Chourio, Uribe is a lights-out reliever in the major leagues right now, and Quero is a consensus top 50 prospect. All Stearns signings.
 

And if you’re going to bring up Eureu, then you have to allow the mention of Yophery Rodriguez. He may not Chourio in the end, but you’re the one labeling Eureu a bust based on his DSL stats.

[Harold Hutchison]

28 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

@clancyphile sorry, spaced on this, I've added the two prospects you def wanted in your top 20.

@Brock Beauchamp Thanks. Can you cancel my previous vote?

[Brock Beauchamp]

Just now, clancyphile said:

@Brock Beauchamp Thanks. Can you cancel my previous vote?

Done!

[CheeseheadInQC]

32 minutes ago, Never Outhustled said:

Lol, now your expecting every prospect to Chourio? Sorry to tell you, we haven't signed any more Chourio's. Remember that whole wave that's at Wisconsin now? Huge rankings for guys like Garcia?

Be realistic. 

At the same time, wouldn’t that kind of be like saying “Jake Gatewood didn’t turn out so don’t rank Bitonti.”

I can see some of your arguments. Personally, I somewhat discount stats of guys repeating the DSL. That’s not to say Nadal couldn’t be good (he was good enough last year where he likely would have been stateside had the Brewers still had two ACL teams), but the advantage of that extra season at that age group is big enough that I am not going to rank him for his stats.

I also have learned my lesson about ranking DSL guys minus scouting reports (Jhonnys Cabrera), so I generally will only rank the higher profile guys since we have honest to goodness scouting reports on them, leaving the others for the sleepers list (Juan Baez’s breakout was one of the few things I got right from my predictions).

That said, those rules would be for any team. The Brewers’ past lack of success has absolutely nothing to do with them.

[Never Outhustled]

1 hour ago, CheeseheadInQC said:

At the same time, wouldn’t that kind of be like saying “Jake Gatewood didn’t turn out so don’t rank Bitonti.”

 

Gatewood and Bitonti is an interesting comparison. Both are tall Infielders drafted out of HS. However, they're also extremely different in that Gatewood's entire intrigue was his raw athletism, as he lacked established baseball skills. Bitonti, on the other hand, has an absolutely beautiful left-handed swing.

[StearnsFTW]

9 hours ago, Never Outhustled said:

The Brewers track record with international signings is abysmal. Rank accordingly. Remember when this board was all excited about Hedbert Perez and Hendry Mendez? The Brewers can't even get international signings to AA, much less the majors. Rank accordingly. 

 

I'm ecstatic we've landed an outlier like Chourio.

Perez is 20.  Should he be in AA?

[sveumrules]

Here is a super long post with a bunch of guys I didn't vote for, but still find intriguing, separated by position, then ordered by personal preference within each grouping. Call it a follow list, call it #21 through number whatever, call it a massive waste of time, but whichsoever way, here it is (all stats through Aug 12)...

POSITION PLAYERS

Dylan O'Rae
2B/CF with 356/514/400 (152 wRC+) over 183 PA at ACL/A, age 19. 21.9 BB% | 12.6 K% | 28/2 SB/CS

Juan Baez 
SS/3B with 389/411/594 (144 wRC+) over 185 PA at ACL, age 18. 3.2 BB% | 10.8 K% | 17/2 SB/CS

Filippo Di Turi
SS/2B with 299/415/377 (122 wRC+) over 200 PA at DSL, age 17. 15.0 BB% | 15.0 K% | 

Isaac Collins
LF/2B with 273/432/435 (138 wRC+) over 273 PA at AA/AAA, age 25. 20.9 BB% | 15.0 K% | 22/7 SB/CS

Freddy Zamora
SS/2B with 268/367/387 (106 wRC+) over 332 PA at AA, age 24. 12.3 BB% | 20.2 K% | 14/3 SB/CS 

Demetrio Nadal
3B/LF with 316/457/520 (158 wRC+) over 129 PA at DSL, age 18. 15.5 BB% | 10.9 K% | 27/6 SB/CS

Cam Devanney
SS/3B/2B with 257/351/473 (103 wRC+) over 285 PA at AAA, age 26. 11.6 BB% | 16.8 K% | 

Patrick Dorrian
3B/1B with 263/343/545 (113 wRC+) over 289 PA at AAA, age 27. 10.0 BB% | 27.0 K%

Ernesto Martinez
1B with 275/355/453 (128 wRC+) over 292 PA at A+/AA, age 24. 9.2 BB% | 19.5 K% | 13/5 SB/CS

Jose Sibrian
Catcher with 297/379/509 (149 wRC+) over 190 PA at A, age 24. 8.4 BB% | 15.8 K% | 46/25 SB/CS (35.2 CS%) on defense
(obviously age relative to league skews things major, especially on offense, but looks like the kind of guy that could hang around for a long time as a glove first backup)  

Satchell Norman
C/DH with 306/423/482 (129 wRC+) over 104 PA at ACL, age 20. 16.3 BB% | 24.0 K% | 

Pedro Ibarguen
DH/CF/2B with 304/444/402 (137 wRC+) over 144 PA at DSL, age 16. 16.0 BB% | 19.4 K%

Brian Sanchez
LF/RF with 301/419/462 (133 wRC+) over 117 PA at DSL, age 18. 16.2 BB% | 18.8 K% | 8/4 SB/CS

PITCHERS 

Patricio Aquino
RHP with 2.82 ERA (4.30 FIP) over 70.1 IP at A, age 20. 24.9 K% | 9.7 BB% | 0.77 HR/9 

Jesus Rivero
RHP with 3.21 ERA (3.51 FIP) over 33.2 IP at ACL/A, age 20. 36.2 K% | 13.0 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Max Lazar
RHP with 3.03 ERA (3.00 FIP) over 59.1 IP at A+/AA, age 24. 25.3 K% | 6.9 BB% | 0.46 HR/9

Ryan Brady
RHP with 2.88 ERA (3.05 FIP) over 65.2 IP at A+/AA, age 24. 22.2 K% | 6.3 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Shane Smith
RHP with 2.06 ERA (2.48 FIP) over 48.0 IP at A/A+, age 23. 37.1 K% | 8.6 BB% | 0.94 HR/9

Nate Peterson
LHP with 3.50 ERA (3.42 FIP) over 54.0 IP at A/A+, age 23. 28.0 K% | 9.9 BB% | 0.50 HR/9

Clayton Andrews
LHP with 2.51 ERA (3.62 FIP) over 43.0 IP at AAA, age 26. 31.9 K% | 13.7 BB% | 0.63 HR/9

Justin King
LHP with 3.04 ERA (2.36 FIP) over 26.2 IP at A+, age 25. 42.0 K% | 15.1 BB% | 0.34 HR/9

Enniel Cortez
RHP with 1.55 ERA (2.67 FIP) over 40.2 IP at DSL, age 17. 27.8 K% | 3.2 BB% | 0.22 HR/9

Melvin Hernandez
RHP with 2.18 ERA (3.69 FIP) over 33.0 IP at DSL, age 16. 20.4 K% | 6.6 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Anthony Flores
LHP with 3.02 ERA (3.27 FIP) over 41.2 IP at DSL, age 18. 29.8 K% | 9.5 BB% | 0.22 HR/9

Eric Prado
RHP with 1.64 ERA (4.27 FIP) over 33.0 IP at DSL, age 17. 23.3 K% | 10.9 BB% | 0.55 HR/9

 

[Never Outhustled]

44 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

Perez is 20.  Should he be in AA?

You still think Perez should be a highly rated prospect? You have no problem with a prospect being back in A ball for the 3rd year in a row with zero tangible progress? Or do you think we went a little over board on him? The hype was through the roof. I simply asked that we let players like him be a guide to avoid the common overhyping of our Latin signees.

[CheeseheadInQC]

1 hour ago, Never Outhustled said:

You still think Perez should be a highly rated prospect? You have no problem with a prospect being back in A ball for the 3rd year in a row with zero tangible progress? Or do you think we went a little over board on him? The hype was through the roof. I simply asked that we let players like him be a guide to avoid the common overhyping of our Latin signees.

A top prospect no. He'd still fall into the interesting sleeper category for me though, similar to Jace Avina. June was his best month since he moved to full-season ball ... and then he gets hurt. We'll have to wait to see if it was something that he can build on or a fluke.

The Brewers also kind of announced that Perez was a prospect to watch when they added him to the alternate site roster before he played a professional game.

I would make two main counterpoints

1. A lot of prospects, even top prospects, flame out. MLB Pipeline had Perez 3 in the system in 2021. Ethan Small and Mario Feliciano were 4 and 5. 

2. Rodriguez and Mendez perhaps aside because of their absurd career-opening seasons, this site tends to be a trailing indicator on big DSL hype prospects lately. Quero and Lara both were higher on outside lists after great instructs performances before their breakouts, and Chourio was as well after his middling start, great finish DSL season,  

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Here is a super long post with a bunch of guys I didn't vote for, but still find intriguing, separated by position, then ordered by personal preference within each grouping. Call it a follow list, call it #21 through number whatever, call it a massive waste of time, but whichsoever way, here it is (all stats through Aug 12)...

POSITION PLAYERS

Dylan O'Rae
2B/CF with 356/514/400 (152 wRC+) over 183 PA at ACL/A, age 19. 21.9 BB% | 12.6 K% | 28/2 SB/CS

Juan Baez 
SS/3B with 389/411/594 (144 wRC+) over 185 PA at ACL, age 18. 3.2 BB% | 10.8 K% | 17/2 SB/CS

Filippo Di Turi
SS/2B with 299/415/377 (122 wRC+) over 200 PA at DSL, age 17. 15.0 BB% | 15.0 K% | 

Isaac Collins
LF/2B with 273/432/435 (138 wRC+) over 273 PA at AA/AAA, age 25. 20.9 BB% | 15.0 K% | 22/7 SB/CS

Freddy Zamora
SS/2B with 268/367/387 (106 wRC+) over 332 PA at AA, age 24. 12.3 BB% | 20.2 K% | 14/3 SB/CS 

Demetrio Nadal
3B/LF with 316/457/520 (158 wRC+) over 129 PA at DSL, age 18. 15.5 BB% | 10.9 K% | 27/6 SB/CS

Cam Devanney
SS/3B/2B with 257/351/473 (103 wRC+) over 285 PA at AAA, age 26. 11.6 BB% | 16.8 K% | 

Patrick Dorrian
3B/1B with 263/343/545 (113 wRC+) over 289 PA at AAA, age 27. 10.0 BB% | 27.0 K%

Ernesto Martinez
1B with 275/355/453 (128 wRC+) over 292 PA at A+/AA, age 24. 9.2 BB% | 19.5 K% | 13/5 SB/CS

Jose Sibrian
Catcher with 297/379/509 (149 wRC+) over 190 PA at A, age 24. 8.4 BB% | 15.8 K% | 46/25 SB/CS (35.2 CS%) on defense
(obviously age relative to league skews things major, especially on offense, but looks like the kind of guy that could hang around for a long time as a glove first backup)  

Satchell Norman
C/DH with 306/423/482 (129 wRC+) over 104 PA at ACL, age 20. 16.3 BB% | 24.0 K% | 

Pedro Ibarguen
DH/CF/2B with 304/444/402 (137 wRC+) over 144 PA at DSL, age 16. 16.0 BB% | 19.4 K%

Brian Sanchez
LF/RF with 301/419/462 (133 wRC+) over 117 PA at DSL, age 18. 16.2 BB% | 18.8 K% | 8/4 SB/CS

PITCHERS 

Patricio Aquino
RHP with 2.82 ERA (4.30 FIP) over 70.1 IP at A, age 20. 24.9 K% | 9.7 BB% | 0.77 HR/9 

Jesus Rivero
RHP with 3.21 ERA (3.51 FIP) over 33.2 IP at ACL/A, age 20. 36.2 K% | 13.0 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Max Lazar
RHP with 3.03 ERA (3.00 FIP) over 59.1 IP at A+/AA, age 24. 25.3 K% | 6.9 BB% | 0.46 HR/9

Ryan Brady
RHP with 2.88 ERA (3.05 FIP) over 65.2 IP at A+/AA, age 24. 22.2 K% | 6.3 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Shane Smith
RHP with 2.06 ERA (2.48 FIP) over 48.0 IP at A/A+, age 23. 37.1 K% | 8.6 BB% | 0.94 HR/9

Nate Peterson
LHP with 3.50 ERA (3.42 FIP) over 54.0 IP at A/A+, age 23. 28.0 K% | 9.9 BB% | 0.50 HR/9

Clayton Andrews
LHP with 2.51 ERA (3.62 FIP) over 43.0 IP at AAA, age 26. 31.9 K% | 13.7 BB% | 0.63 HR/9

Justin King
LHP with 3.04 ERA (2.36 FIP) over 26.2 IP at A+, age 25. 42.0 K% | 15.1 BB% | 0.34 HR/9

Enniel Cortez
RHP with 1.55 ERA (2.67 FIP) over 40.2 IP at DSL, age 17. 27.8 K% | 3.2 BB% | 0.22 HR/9

Melvin Hernandez
RHP with 2.18 ERA (3.69 FIP) over 33.0 IP at DSL, age 16. 20.4 K% | 6.6 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Anthony Flores
LHP with 3.02 ERA (3.27 FIP) over 41.2 IP at DSL, age 18. 29.8 K% | 9.5 BB% | 0.22 HR/9

Eric Prado
RHP with 1.64 ERA (4.27 FIP) over 33.0 IP at DSL, age 17. 23.3 K% | 10.9 BB% | 0.55 HR/9

 

That's a nice list, particularly some of the pitchers flying a bit under the radar. I think Lazar is an "upset special" to find his way to the Milwaukee BP in a year or two.

[SF70]

9 hours ago, Never Outhustled said:

You still think Perez should be a highly rated prospect? You have no problem with a prospect being back in A ball for the 3rd year in a row with zero tangible progress? Or do you think we went a little over board on him? The hype was through the roof. I simply asked that we let players like him be a guide to avoid the common overhyping of our Latin signees.

You lost me with your IFA narrative when you failed to include Uribe and Quero with Chourio. 

Uribe is already dominating big-league hitters, albeit in a SSS. And Quero’s trajectory is to eventually be a top 10 prospect in the game, and the 2nd best C prospect behind Salas.

 

[StearnsFTW]

11 hours ago, Never Outhustled said:

You still think Perez should be a highly rated prospect? You have no problem with a prospect being back in A ball for the 3rd year in a row with zero tangible progress? Or do you think we went a little over board on him? The hype was through the roof. I simply asked that we let players like him be a guide to avoid the common overhyping of our Latin signees.

I think he's toolsy and 20.  You're the one who mentioned AA, not me.

I would suggest being patient in getting these guys to AA that's all.

 

[ctmyers]

13 hours ago, Never Outhustled said:

You still think Perez should be a highly rated prospect? You have no problem with a prospect being back in A ball for the 3rd year in a row with zero tangible progress? Or do you think we went a little over board on him? The hype was through the roof. I simply asked that we let players like him be a guide to avoid the common overhyping of our Latin signees.

Not to derail the conversation surrounding subjective rankings on a fan site, but looking at the top 30 internationals signings of 2019-2020, only one has made AA. Jasson Dominguez, who signed for 5.1 million, has an OPS of .743, career OPS of .781.  

So, logically speaking, every MLB team is "abysmal" when it comes to international signings. 

And when looking at the top-100 Pipeline prospects, no team has more international prospects on the list than the Brewers. So, maybe, they aren't so bad at this.  

[StearnsFTW]

2 hours ago, ctmyers said:

Not to derail the conversation surrounding subjective rankings on a fan site, but looking at the top 30 internationals signings of 2019-2020, only one has made AA. Jasson Dominguez, who signed for 5.1 million, has an OPS of .743, career OPS of .781.  

So, logically speaking, every MLB team is "abysmal" when it comes to international signings. 

And when looking at the top-100 Pipeline prospects, no team has more international prospects on the list than the Brewers. So, maybe, they aren't so bad at this.  

NVM.  Misread.

[Joseph Zarr]

20 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Here is a super long post with a bunch of guys I didn't vote for, but still find intriguing, separated by position, then ordered by personal preference within each grouping. Call it a follow list, call it #21 through number whatever, call it a massive waste of time, but whichsoever way, here it is (all stats through Aug 12)...

POSITION PLAYERS

Dylan O'Rae
2B/CF with 356/514/400 (152 wRC+) over 183 PA at ACL/A, age 19. 21.9 BB% | 12.6 K% | 28/2 SB/CS

Juan Baez 
SS/3B with 389/411/594 (144 wRC+) over 185 PA at ACL, age 18. 3.2 BB% | 10.8 K% | 17/2 SB/CS

Filippo Di Turi
SS/2B with 299/415/377 (122 wRC+) over 200 PA at DSL, age 17. 15.0 BB% | 15.0 K% | 

Isaac Collins
LF/2B with 273/432/435 (138 wRC+) over 273 PA at AA/AAA, age 25. 20.9 BB% | 15.0 K% | 22/7 SB/CS

Freddy Zamora
SS/2B with 268/367/387 (106 wRC+) over 332 PA at AA, age 24. 12.3 BB% | 20.2 K% | 14/3 SB/CS 

Demetrio Nadal
3B/LF with 316/457/520 (158 wRC+) over 129 PA at DSL, age 18. 15.5 BB% | 10.9 K% | 27/6 SB/CS

Cam Devanney
SS/3B/2B with 257/351/473 (103 wRC+) over 285 PA at AAA, age 26. 11.6 BB% | 16.8 K% | 

Patrick Dorrian
3B/1B with 263/343/545 (113 wRC+) over 289 PA at AAA, age 27. 10.0 BB% | 27.0 K%

Ernesto Martinez
1B with 275/355/453 (128 wRC+) over 292 PA at A+/AA, age 24. 9.2 BB% | 19.5 K% | 13/5 SB/CS

Jose Sibrian
Catcher with 297/379/509 (149 wRC+) over 190 PA at A, age 24. 8.4 BB% | 15.8 K% | 46/25 SB/CS (35.2 CS%) on defense
(obviously age relative to league skews things major, especially on offense, but looks like the kind of guy that could hang around for a long time as a glove first backup)  

Satchell Norman
C/DH with 306/423/482 (129 wRC+) over 104 PA at ACL, age 20. 16.3 BB% | 24.0 K% | 

Pedro Ibarguen
DH/CF/2B with 304/444/402 (137 wRC+) over 144 PA at DSL, age 16. 16.0 BB% | 19.4 K%

Brian Sanchez
LF/RF with 301/419/462 (133 wRC+) over 117 PA at DSL, age 18. 16.2 BB% | 18.8 K% | 8/4 SB/CS

PITCHERS 

Patricio Aquino
RHP with 2.82 ERA (4.30 FIP) over 70.1 IP at A, age 20. 24.9 K% | 9.7 BB% | 0.77 HR/9 

Jesus Rivero
RHP with 3.21 ERA (3.51 FIP) over 33.2 IP at ACL/A, age 20. 36.2 K% | 13.0 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Max Lazar
RHP with 3.03 ERA (3.00 FIP) over 59.1 IP at A+/AA, age 24. 25.3 K% | 6.9 BB% | 0.46 HR/9

Ryan Brady
RHP with 2.88 ERA (3.05 FIP) over 65.2 IP at A+/AA, age 24. 22.2 K% | 6.3 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Shane Smith
RHP with 2.06 ERA (2.48 FIP) over 48.0 IP at A/A+, age 23. 37.1 K% | 8.6 BB% | 0.94 HR/9

Nate Peterson
LHP with 3.50 ERA (3.42 FIP) over 54.0 IP at A/A+, age 23. 28.0 K% | 9.9 BB% | 0.50 HR/9

Clayton Andrews
LHP with 2.51 ERA (3.62 FIP) over 43.0 IP at AAA, age 26. 31.9 K% | 13.7 BB% | 0.63 HR/9

Justin King
LHP with 3.04 ERA (2.36 FIP) over 26.2 IP at A+, age 25. 42.0 K% | 15.1 BB% | 0.34 HR/9

Enniel Cortez
RHP with 1.55 ERA (2.67 FIP) over 40.2 IP at DSL, age 17. 27.8 K% | 3.2 BB% | 0.22 HR/9

Melvin Hernandez
RHP with 2.18 ERA (3.69 FIP) over 33.0 IP at DSL, age 16. 20.4 K% | 6.6 BB% | 0.27 HR/9

Anthony Flores
LHP with 3.02 ERA (3.27 FIP) over 41.2 IP at DSL, age 18. 29.8 K% | 9.5 BB% | 0.22 HR/9

Eric Prado
RHP with 1.64 ERA (4.27 FIP) over 33.0 IP at DSL, age 17. 23.3 K% | 10.9 BB% | 0.55 HR/9

 

No RHP Tanner Shears here feels like a small State Fair pie to my face. I can tell you he absolutely deserves to be on that list. 

[homer]

@Brock Beauchamp Can you cancel my vote? I omitted someone.

[sveumrules]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

No RHP Tanner Shears here feels like a small State Fair pie to my face. I can tell you he absolutely deserves to be on that list. 

Shears is for sure on the radar but the 31 BB | 9 HBP | 13 WP in 41 IP are what kept him off for now.

[Joseph Zarr]

13 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Shears is for sure on the radar but the 31 BB | 9 HBP | 13 WP in 41 IP are what kept him off for now.

Lemme tell ya', my good internets friend, umps don't know how to call him. Catchers don't know how to catch him. Last week, alone, C Matt Wood cost him 2 WP's on balls he very easily should have caught had he a comfort level with Shear's nasty or an idea of how to follow how his pitches move. And, make no mistake, Shears is nasty. You carry on. Having watched 80% of his games...I trust that raw stuff. It's a baseline we just don't have in a lot of other places. IF he can even further dial the violence in every aspect of his pitching we have an MLB trajectory. He throws that heater 95-96. Unafraid up and in. His whip curve is ridiculously filthy (the scouting reports from the last couple years would call it a slider - I suggest the shape has evolved in 2023 it's more than a slider in my book). Fine tune this wild stallion and we are cooking with gas. 

I respect your criteria and rationale. Sound thinking. 

I know what I see. We'll have to see where the chips fall as he furthers his MiLB career.