Marlins (Luzardo) vs Brewers (Woodruff): 9/11/23, 6:40pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

It would have been fun to sweep the Yankees but ultimately, two out of three is a win. Now comes a slightly more interesting series with postseason implications. The Marlins are fighting for the third Wild Card spot while the Brewers will host the third WC spot if they win the division.

[Brian]

It would be nice to do to the Miami Marlins what we did to the Texas Rangers. 

We also have a few players that played for the Marlins, including Craig Counsell.

Also, Brian Anderson, Christian Yelich, That is all I can think of for now. 

[shanedog19]

Will this be Josh Donaldson's debut? Sure feels that way.

[treego14]

[wibadgers23]

I’m like 99.999% sure Josh Donaldson will be called up and Anderson will be DFA’d today. Makes way too much sense not to happen. 

[Jake McKibbin]

4 minutes ago, wibadgers23 said:

I’m like 99.999% sure Josh Donaldson will be called up and Anderson will be DFA’d today. Makes way too much sense not to happen. 

I think Counsell said this wasn't in their immediate plans? So maybe more like next week, he looked better Friday and Saturday but they'll want a few more consistent examples of power before he comes I think. That being said, I can't argue with you it makes sense

[treego14]

What happened to Brian Anderson?

Why is he not used at all?

[sveumrules]

16 minutes ago, treego14 said:

What happened to Brian Anderson?

Why is he not used at all?

Anderson’s OPS was at .766 over 210 PA thru May 31st.

He then put up a .568 OPS over his next  124 PA before going on the IL and has followed that up with a .441 OPS in a scant 21 PA since returning.

He stopped hitting and Monasterio took advantage of the opportunity.

[wibadgers23]

I really can’t fathom someone not seeing the field for three weeks when there’s no injury. No pinch hits. No defensive replacement. Really bizarre situation.

[Jake McKibbin]

Just now, wibadgers23 said:

I really can’t fathom someone not seeing the field for three weeks when there’s no injury. No pinch hits. No defensive replacement. Really bizarre situation.

A couple of thoughts..

 

He's injured but asked not to be put on IL as it'll hurt him more in the contract stuff next season (though I figure this is unlikely as 3 weeks of no game time looks worse arguably)

His bat has looked way out of sorts even in BP and it's just going not going to play, hence he's a liability, but better than using a 40 man to call up Black if Monasterio got injured. The Brewers like to hog assets as much as possible, so this is most likely the scenario

[TURBO]

7 minutes ago, Jake McKibbin said:

He's injured but asked not to be put on IL as it'll hurt him more in the contract stuff next season (though I figure this is unlikely as 3 weeks of no game time looks worse arguably)

 

Not a chance the Brewers are wasting a roster spot as a favor to Anderson.  

The entire situation is just plain strange.

[Jake McKibbin]

1 minute ago, TURBO said:

Not a chance the Brewers are wasting a roster spot as a favor to Anderson.  

The entire situation is just plain strange.

I agree... it's most likely an insurance policy if Monasterio goes down, and Black isn't ready. It makes sense but in the crucible of a playoff race, Monasterio is performing better. And to be fair, the stereo has an .800 OPS in September, he's performing.

[sveumrules]

BA’s last game was Aug 22. Since then Taylor is 9th on the team in PAs at 46.

Bench players over that time are Rowdy (26 PA), Caratini (22 PA), Wiemer (12 PA), Miller (4 PA). BA (zero).

CC has definitely locked in on a pretty consistent regular lineup since the trade deadline really. In 35 games since August 1st, games started breaks down as…

Contreras (34) Turang (34) Adames (33) Monasterio (33) Santana (32) Yelich (32) Canha (31) Frelick (25) Taylor (18) Wiemer (13) Caratini (10) Rowdy (8) BA (5)

The biggest factor in Anderson still being on the roster is the 14 position player minimum. From his (and Miller’s non-usage) it seems pretty clear they’d prefer a 15th pitcher.

[RobertCrawley]

Please tell me the trade deadline crown jewel Andrew Chafin' is no longer on the roster. That is all I care about.

[sveumrules]

7 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

Please tell me the trade deadline crown jewel Andrew Chafin' is no longer on the roster. That is all I care about.

Chafin was acquired to be 8th on the bullpen depth chart, not sure anyone ever thought he was the crown jewel of anything.

I do recall many posters thinking SantanCanha were polished turds though.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

12 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Chafin was acquired to be 8th on the bullpen depth chart, not sure anyone ever thought he was the crown jewel of anything.

I do recall many posters thinking SantanCanha were polished turds though.

Right. 2nd veteran lefty to take the load off of Milner. Not sure where this "crown jewel" talk comes from, other than as a somewhat backhanded opportunity to take a swipe at the team's deadline moves. And with the way Santana and Canha have performed, that argument is pretty off-the-mark IMO.

[TURBO]

Meh, paint it any way you want to, Chafin needs to go.  Jewell or turd nugget, he has no place on this team.

I don't buy that he was acquired to be our 8th option out of the bullpen, but that is neither here nor there.

He sucks ass and needs to go.

[wibadgers23]

26 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Meh, paint it any way you want to, Chafin needs to go.  Jewell or turd nugget, he has no place on this team.

I don't buy that he was acquired to be our 8th option out of the bullpen, but that is neither here nor there.

He sucks ass and needs to go.

Yeah and hasn't their been a couple of instances where he came in to pitch with big leads and they ended up having to get Payamps and/or Williams up?  Dude can't even get the job done in mop-up duty.

[RobertCrawley]

47 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Right. 2nd veteran lefty to take the load off of Milner. Not sure where this "crown jewel" talk comes from, other than as a somewhat backhanded opportunity to take a swipe at the team's deadline moves. And with the way Santana and Canha have performed, that argument is pretty off-the-mark IMO.

Take a look back at the threads and behold the prognostications from the baseball experts here. I can cut and paste direct quotes if you like.

[Jim French Stepstool]

29 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Meh, paint it any way you want to, Chafin needs to go.  Jewell or turd nugget, he has no place on this team.

I don't buy that he was acquired to be our 8th option out of the bullpen, but that is neither here nor there.

He sucks ass and needs to go.

He was acquired to be a 2nd LHP in the bullpen. The other candidates:

Justin Wilson came back from his injury, hurt himself warming up, and is gone for the year.

Clayton Andrews has looked totally outmatched in his couple of outings.

Claudio was up very briefly this spring ("He couldn't be any worse!!!!!!!"). Yeah, he could.

Ashby doesn't appear close to being able to contribute.

Sousa put up a 13.50 ERA in his two outings.

They signed Abad. His most recent outing at Nashville, I think he faced like 5-6 hitters & retired no one.

Gasser is worth debating, but it seems they want to keep him starting as opposed to coming up here & working maybe once a week. Maybe when N'Ville is done playing we'll see him.

That's where they stand.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

Take a look back at the threads and behold the prognostications from the baseball experts here. I can cut and paste direct quotes if you like.

I would actually like to see you cut and paste direct quotes that he was the "crown jewel" of the Brewers' deadline.

You may have had people (like me admittedly) who liked the move because of Chafin's strong seasons the previous few years and his still solid swing and miss numbers (not to mention that Strzelecki wasn't exactly tearing things up), but what you're saying is hyperbole. 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

I would actually like to see you cut and paste direct quotes that he was the "crown jewel" of the Brewers' deadline.

You may have had people (like me admittedly) who liked the move because of Chafin's strong seasons the previous few years and his still solid swing and miss numbers (not to mention that Strzelecki wasn't exactly tearing things up), but what you're saying is hyperbole. 

Agreed. Precisely 0 people called Chafin the crown jewel of the team's deadline moves in the trade thread. The facts said that he had been a veteran MLB relief arm who had been an above average if not elite non-closing RP for a long time. He didn't have those kind of numbers this year. The Brewers obviously hoped he'd be able to right the ship. It obviously hasn't worked out. 

The return on the deal, Strez, has pitched 1 1/3 innings total for the DBacks. 

[treego14]

2 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Anderson’s OPS was at .766 over 210 PA thru May 31st.

He then put up a .568 OPS over his next  124 PA before going on the IL and has followed that up with a .441 OPS in a scant 21 PA since returning.

He stopped hitting and Monasterio took advantage of the opportunity.

I understand all that, BUT he has had "scant" opportunity ... he was an asset as a defensive player certainly, too.

Can't he play 3rd base and A.M. Sterio 2nd base against lefties?

Seems like something else is brewing here ...

[tmwiese55]

Can pick on Chafin all you want and act like he was a horrible pickup, which of course he has been since results matter.  But the guy has been a good solid reliver for a  number of years.  There was nothing to bash about that pickup.  Sometimes relievers have their bad spells and it so happens he's been on one since he got to MKE.   I was hoping he'd figured it out as he'd a few good games there in a row but after yesterday yea he's right down to the bottom of them trusting again.    It just hasn't worked out and he's in a funk now, but just saying he's been good for years.    I'm sure no one feels worse about than him, especially as I'm assuming he's a FA and this is costing him from getting a good reliever contract to likely league min next year. 

[RobertCrawley]

5 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

Can pick on Chafin all you want and act like he was a horrible pickup, which of course he has been since results matter.  But the guy has been a good solid reliver for a  number of years.  There was nothing to bash about that pickup.  Sometimes relievers have their bad spells and it so happens he's been on one since he got to MKE.   I was hoping he'd figured it out as he'd a few good games there in a row but after yesterday yea he's right down to the bottom of them trusting again.    It just hasn't worked out and he's in a funk now, but just saying he's been good for years.    I'm sure no one feels worse about than him, especially as I'm assuming he's a FA and this is costing him from getting a good reliever contract to likely league min next year. 

There are bad spells, and then there are bad spells. Some of us amateur baseball fans were disturbed by his numbers when we signed him, but the internet baseball experts (the IBEs) corrected us.

I hope he figures things out at some point and gets going with his career, but that loss yesterday to the Yankees after Cy's gold-plated outing was a soul destroyer.