Robert Murray on Brewers and CC

[MVP2110]

7 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

Heyman says CC expected to make his decision in the next day or 2…….its in a cheerleading article that the Mets should spare no expense to go get him………god I hate the sports media.

 

Interesting he says that $8 million is unrealistic 

[sveumrules]

“an absolute necessity” 

Holy hyperbole, Heyman.

Like what happens if he doesn’t pick NY? Do they get relegated to the International League or something?

[markedman5]

Just now, sveumrules said:

“an absolute necessity” 

Holy hyperbole, Heyman.

Like what happens if he doesn’t pick NY? Do they get relegated to the International League or something?

I mean he’s supposed to be a journalist…….yet he clearly is an advocate for the Mets………openly rooting for big market teams to get whatever they want…….how about just a neutral article about how the process is playing out? Is that too much to ask? 
 

 

[homer]

6 hours ago, markedman5 said:

I mean he’s supposed to be a journalist…….yet he clearly is an advocate for the Mets………openly rooting for big market teams to get whatever they want…….how about just a neutral article about how the process is playing out? Is that too much to ask? 
 

 

He writes for the NY Post. Gotta hook those readers.

[Lathund]

I've read a bunch of the NY Post and SNY homers (Heyman, Martino etc) as this process has played out. They used to sound so certain that Counsell was going to the Mets, but they seem more and more to believe that he won't. If you're not used to the tone and language they use it might not be apparent (due to the heavy bias), but that kind of article is more like a desperate plea from someone who is resigned to it not happening, but who needs to file an article that panders to the fanbase regardless. 

What I also think people are missing with the Mets is that Cohen isn't going to spend big forever. Clearly they will operate with a higher payroll than the Mets did in the past, among the highest in the league for sure. But this "infinite money" narrative doesn't hold water. They spent a ton over the last couple of years, but have openly said it's about trying to be competitive (Which succeeded in 2022, clearly not in 2023) while at the same time building up the farm (and not trading from it). Most of that money was short-term spending too, while the longer term deals are mostly in line with the market. Then there is Stearns. He ran the most value-focused operation in MLB for years. That's not going to stop; he'll just have more money to play with. He's still not going to overspend, or spend for the sake of it. There are expensive deals that are good value, but would just eat up too much of the limited payroll room of a team like the Brewers, that's what we'll see Stearns do, in addition to the same things he did with the Brewers. One example that springs to mind would be Bryce Harper's free agency; I imagine Stearns with the Mets' budget would have been very interested in geting him for $25m AAV. 

Anyway, the point I'm making is this: Mets will pay a lot, but the idea that I've seen some propose that they'll pay him $10m or $12m or whatever just doesn't have a basis in reality. Firstly because Stearns isn't that kind of executive. Secondly, I don't think even Cohen is too keen on it. Whatever their offer ends up being, it'll be at a level the Brewers can afford to match. 

[MVP2110]

 

 

[markedman5]

 

[patrickgpe]

Hopefully this means the CC drama is almost over too. Vogt was one of the 2 guys that intrigued me if we need to hire a manager (DeRosa being the other). 

[Lathund]

16 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

 

 

tbf that does worry me a bit. It would suggest the Brewers have not made a new offer to match whatever the Mets offered (Guardians apparently just hired Stephen Vogt, so they're out), and even a small raise would have been enough to make him the highest paid manager now that Francona retired. But more importantly, this sounds like a leak from the Brewers end, and you have to ask yourself why it would leak? One reason would be as a "look, we tried!" way to placate the backlash if he leaves. 

Now of course, it could also mean that they have made a significant offer to begin with and are in pole position, I don't really know. But I'm feeling nervous. 

Guardians announcing a manager probably does mean CC has turned them down though (Unless they really liked Vogt), so perhaps an announcement is close. 

[torts]

This is getting done today I can feel it in my bones 

[MVP2110]

 

 

 

[dlk9s]

25 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

Looks like the underwater city of Rapture hired Stephen Vogt.

[torts]

I expect you all to update this once it's posted on twitter

[homer]

1 hour ago, MVP2110 said:

I could be wrong, but this feels oddly like "Hey, we offered CC Sabathia over $100m..."

[owbc]

Just now, homer said:

I could be wrong, but this feels oddly like "Hey, we offered CC Sabathia over $100m..."

Seems like a nothing burger to me, everyone already knew the Brewers would make an offer over that threshold. 

I just hope that if he does go to NY it's for some stupid dollar amount that will make me feel better about the whole thing. 

If he stays, then my reaction will be IN YOUR FACE NEW YORK TAKE THAT HAHA. 

[markedman5]

 

[brewerfan82]

 

[homer]

So this means...

 

 

[brewerfan82]

Just now, homer said:

So this means...

 

 

We can lowball CC!

[homer]

 

 

[markedman5]

Astros still could be a factor I suppose ……..but obviously good news

[dlk9s]

Who's tracking private jet flights?

[MrTPlush]

Vogt signing and the Brewers job about to be opening up would be a little surprising. I have to imagine he would have been a top candidate and even if Vogt preferred the Guardians the Brewers could have helped push his price up. I just find that a little hard to believe. He seemed primed to land a managerial role no matter what, so not like he had to sprint out and sign a deal.

Because haven't we just been twiddling our thumbs waiting for golden boy to decide?

[MVP2110]

 

 

[Brewcrew82]