2024-25 Offseason Ideas

[jay87shot]

10 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Perkins for Baty might work as Stearns values defense quite highly.   That could definitely be a win-win based trade.

And absolutely no to Contreras at first.   Trade him before moving him to first (but keep him this year and trade him next off season).

Willson Contreras, William's brother on the Cards. Keep William at C and trade for Willson. It isn't my favorite idea but I could boost the offense.

[Scooterfletcher]

2 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Willson Contreras, William's brother on the Cards. Keep William at C and trade for Willson. It isn't my favorite idea but I could boost the offense.

Gotchya.  I think Hoskins in a contract year is going to do quite well and a sizable improvement over last year, so I am good with 1B as is.   

[TURBO]

6 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Gotchya.  I think Hoskins in a contract year is going to do quite well and a sizable improvement over last year, so I am good with 1B as is.   

Hopefully we get a much better offensive player, but it's hard to stomach his defense at times...

[Scooterfletcher]

Is baty for Perkins not fair and right up stearns alley??

[True Blue Brew Crew]

I read this forum once a day and this morning half the posts, spread across multiple places have been about Brett Baty. And all by the same poster. Bad ideas are bad

[ClosetBrewerFan]

12 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Is baty for Perkins not fair and right up stearns alley??

Why do they need Perkins? They have Taylor and Siri

[wibadgers23]

I think this might end up being the quietest Brewers offseason we've seen in quite some time.  Outside of having to replace Adames and possibly a Devin Williams trade, I don't see much going on unless Arnold can get creative.  Maybe we swing a trade for a starting pitcher?  We don't have much money to spend thanks to Hoskins opting in so I don't see much happening at all in free agency.

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, wibadgers23 said:

I think this might end up being the quietest Brewers offseason we've seen in quite some time.  Outside of having to replace Adames and possibly a Devin Williams trade, I don't see much going on unless Arnold can get creative.  Maybe we swing a trade for a starting pitcher?  We don't have much money to spend thanks to Hoskins opting in so I don't see much happening at all in free agency.

Yeah, depending how things shake out a potential Devin trade could be a two birds one stone kind of thing too if it brings back an MLB ready infielder or starting pitcher.

I think the easiest fill is Tyler Black into the vacated Bauers role. Would also be fine dealing for a guy like Brandon Lowe from TBR to fill that spot.

Would like to see someone brought in to improve on Monasterio. Nothing fancy, Brandon Rodgers is a proven lefty crusher and shouldn’t cost too much as a Turang platoon partner.

Have to imagine they’ll sign some random SP they like on a one year deal for depth/competition.

Replacing Adames is definitely the hard one. I don’t really like any of the options that have been floated. Josh Smith from TEX would probably be my first choice since he’s younger, has a nice DRS at 3B and showed some signs of life with the bat last year.

Depending on the medicals Kim could be an option too on a one plus one Hoskins kind of deal. 

[brewmann04]

The Brewers need to replace at least half off Wiily HR production. The question is most likely  a FA on the come back trail. I still think Williams is moved before  the start of the season. I am thinking they look to add a Reclaimation Project for the rotation.

[wallus]

I am more optimistic on this off-season than most. 

We need to replace the WAR of Adames, Bauers and Sanchez offensively.

I think Haase has a chance to give us about what Sanchez did (0.2 WAR) so I won't include him here.

Adames (3.1 WAR)

Bauers (-0.4 WAR)

Assuming we trade Williams, I have confidence that we can replace that production within our budget this off-season.

[nate82]

Expect a very quiet off season for the Brewers is what I am hearing.  Don't expect Williams to be traded during the off season.  The Brewers are treating Williams more like Adames than they are treating him like Burnes from the previous off season.  Williams is available but the price is high. 

[MNBrew]

The Brewers will never "win" the off-season.  But there are a few likely moves coming at some point -- even if the players acquired seem underwhelming -- because there are some roster spots available.  I could see...

- at least one starting-caliber corner IF acquisition

- a Williams trade

- at least 1 if not 2 SP acquired (not glitzy/stud types, more Ross-type moves)

- another potential arm or two for the BP

- depth guys for AAA (hardly interesting most of the time, but we've learned how frequently good moves here can have some MLB payoffs)

- probably at least a couple utility middle-IF types to "up" the bar from Monasterio's 2024 contributions (at least offensively)

.... and it's possible 1 or more of these are addressed in the return for Williams if he's traded.

That's a decent amount of moves.  And if we've learned anything from Matt Arnold, it's that some of the seemingly-nobody-types they'll sign could turn out to be far more relevant and impactful than we'd ever think at the time.

Also, we've learned well that some moves could well still be coming even once ST has begun.

[jay87shot]

13 hours ago, brewmann04 said:

The Brewers need to replace at least half off Wiily HR production. The question is most likely  a FA on the come back trail. I still think Williams is moved before  the start of the season. I am thinking they look to add a Reclaimation Project for the rotation.

I think some of that can come internally. I would expect Chourio to hit like 30 this year, Rhys can top 26 easily, Mitchell should probably hit 20 if he stays healthy, same for Yeli, Sal/Perk/Ortiz/Turang combined for 26 I think that should hopefully be more like 40 next year. I don't think we need to shoot for the entire 32 Willy hit but if we add a 3rd baseman it would be nice to get someone who could hit 20, but if we end up going cheap it can be sustained with furthering the good defense and baserunning over power. 

[NOMAAM]

How cheap does Torres need to be for it to be a fit for Brewers?  I guess how bad is the glove to trade off for the offense?

[wallus]

Brewers: Yandy Diaz (23.3 BTV)

Rays: Frelick (21.4 BTV) and Adams (3.4 BTV)

[wntrtxn21]

On 12/9/2024 at 9:21 AM, NOMAAM said:

How cheap does Torres need to be for it to be a fit for Brewers?  I guess how bad is the glove to trade off for the offense?

Torres was a minus 5.9 UZR and a minus 5 FRV.. One of the worst 2B in all of baseball. For a team like Milwaukee that puts such a premium on defense, I believe he's way out of the picture. 

[jay87shot]

I am thinking Brett Baty would be an ideal add for 3rd base especially if his value has gone down some and we aren't looking to make any huge deals after the Devin trade. I know he was rough his rookie year defensively and the bat has been iffy but there is upside there. We could send them like Peguero and Monesario maybe a lower level prospect or possiblt just Tyler Black and Baty could play some 1B and 3B.

[Lloyd330]

12 hours ago, wallus said:

Brewers: Yandy Diaz (23.3 BTV)

Rays: Frelick (21.4 BTV) and Adams (3.4 BTV)

Im not the biggest Frelick guy, but that's too much for a 33 year old 3B that has to hit .300 to have value

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

I know he was rough his rookie year defensively and the bat has been iffy but there is upside there.

You mention Black as a possible swap. If Baty's defense is rough and his bat iffy, what would be the point of swapping Black for him then? Black has those same issues.

[wallus]

Any interest in Willi Castro from the Twins? The Twins have excess infielders and Castro is projected to make about 6 million. He only has team control for one year so shouldn't be very hard to trade for.

In 2023, Castro was a 2.7 WAR player and he was 1.6 last year. He played all over for the Twins last year. He wouldn't be super exciting but he is one of quite a few options for 3B.

Brewers: Castro (8.7 BTV)

Twins: Lara (8 BTV)

[wallus]

Any interest in Casey Schmitt from the Giants? Here's another guy that's pretty much blocked now that the Giants signed Willy and Chapman long term. He has a lot of team control and is cheap.

He was a former shortstop which we kinda like moving those guys to third base. He was bad in limited at bats in 2023 but was much better in even more limited at bats in 2024. 

Brewers: Schmitt (3.4 BTV)

Giants: Peguero (5.9 BTV)

Schmitt hits LHP well and Durbin hits RHP well so it's setup for a "soft" platoon at 3B.

[wallus]

A guy that has drawn a lot of interest and is definitely on the market, Jesus Luzardo. He does not cost a ton and you would have two years of control on him. I believe we could use another starter for this season and definitely for next season.

Brewers: Luzardo (21.9 BTV)

Marlins: Frelick (21.4 BTV) and Uribe (7.4 BTV)

[sveumrules]

Interesting ideas @wallus

Castro had an 85 wRC+ over his first 1,082 PAs with DET but has kicked it into a new gear with a 108 wRC+ over his last 1,044 PAs since joining MIN.

Steamer isn’t really buying it though with a 99 wRC+ projection for next year and looking at his StatCast page I can kinda see why.

Has played 4.000 combined innings at OF/SS/2B with bad DRS (-36) and middling FRV (+1). Only has 458 innings at 3B with +1 DRS | +2 FRV.

Is a switch hitter, but has pretty pronounced splits with an 87 wRC+ vs LHP | 116 wRC+ vs RHP since finding his stroke with the Twins.

Could maybe be something there if the Brewers think he’s a viable 3B defender and buy into his new hitting results more than the publicly available projections do.

Schmitt has posted nice small sample marks at 3B with +3 DRS | +2 FRV in 295 innings, but the metrics haven’t been a fan of his work at SS/2B with -7 DRS | -6 FRV in 432 combined innings.

Hasn’t really hit at all in AAA (95 wRC+ over 568 PAs) or MLB (73 wRC+ over 390 PAs with just a 4.4 BB%) though.

Steamer (89 wRC+) and ZiPS (93 OPS+) think better days are ahead, but barring some kind of breakthrough or swing change his offensive game seems pretty limited. Pass.

Luzardo would all depend on the medicals. If the Brewers staff think he’s got another 279 IP of 80 ERA- | 80 FIP- in him like he racked up from 2022-23, I’d trust their judgement.

Would guess the Marlins will want players with zero service time coming back though since they aren’t realistically lined up to compete soon,

[nate82]

I think if you want to take a gamble on a recovering pitcher Alcantara would be a better option but I believe the Marlins have stated they won’t trade him this offseason.  He isn’t a FA until 2028 the only thing is he is owed about $55mm from his contract extension in 2022.  The contract is back loaded so $17mm in 2025-2026 and then $21mm with a $2mm buyout in 2027.  If he returns to what he was pre injury that is an under pay.

The Marlins would probably want what he would have demanded before the injury.  He would be worth it but not sure what kind of a pitcher he will be post injury.  Probably would have to start with Quero and Misio plus more and that is just not worth it with the injury concerns.

[Underachiever]

Cub fans believe that a trade for Luzaedo is imminent.