2025 NFL Discussion

[HarryDoyle]

Seriously, Siriani? Why challenge that inconclusive play when you're just going to score on fourth down anyway?

[wOOgiE22]

The refs need to call that false start in the Eagles tush push. I thought I saw them jump before they came back with the replay after the break, but that confirmed it. 

[HarryDoyle]

Yeah, it's over for the Chiefs. I've never seen Mahomes and company this discombobulated. Mahomes never misses that easy deep throw that bad to a receiver that open. All those extra games they play every year takes a big toll on your body.

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, HarryDoyle said:

Yeah, it's over for the Chiefs. I've never seen Mahomes and company this discombobulated. Mahomes never misses that easy deep throw that bad to a receiver that open. All those extra games they play every year takes a big toll on your body.

And then he does that.

[Zad Fnark]

LOL... Vikes think they're top tier after beating Chicago last week.

[HarryDoyle]

Parsons and company are going to have a field day with this Vikings offensive line. Too bad we don't play them until week 12.

[adambr2]

I’m just not really that impressed with JJ McCarthy. I get that he’s super young and all that and probably not a finished product. I dunno. I just don’t really see what made the Vikings so confident to go with him as their Plan A this season.

[nate82]

Did they change the kicking footballs?  The ball seems to be moving in weird ways.  Almost like it has some late movement.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 hour ago, adambr2 said:

I’m just not really that impressed with JJ McCarthy. I get that he’s super young and all that and probably not a finished product. I dunno. I just don’t really see what made the Vikings so confident to go with him as their Plan A this season.

Not sure they really had a choice. Couldn't pay Darnold and high investment in McCarthy. Probably figured they had a good enough team that the set up for him was as good as it would get. 

It's obvious though that we should win this division. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

The Vikings are perenially in between...this is the year they scuffle around 0.500 the whole season - although the way they look against a very average at best ATL team tonight has me thinking 8-9 wins might be their ceiling.

[HarryDoyle]

6 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Not sure they really had a choice. Couldn't pay Darnold and high investment in McCarthy. Probably figured they had a good enough team that the set up for him was as good as it would get. 

It's obvious though that we should win this division. 

Probably the NFC based on what I've seen. It's the Packers, then the Eagles, then 50 feet of crap, then the Bears.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

Probably the NFC based on what I've seen. It's the Packers, then the Eagles, then 50 feet of crap, then the Bears.

I am not quite ready to annoint us. We have to play more games. We've seen the Packers get absolutely rocked in week 1 so I'm giving the Lions some slack. It's just too early to make sweeping generalizations. I expect someone will bring the Packers down to earth a bit soon and expose a weakness along one or both lines running the ball. 

And as it comes to the Packers they could go 17-0 and I would still be nervous they come out flat in the divisional and score 10 points. 

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

1 hour ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I am not quite ready to annoint us. We have to play more games. We've seen the Packers get absolutely rocked in week 1 so I'm giving the Lions some slack. It's just too early to make sweeping generalizations. I expect someone will bring the Packers down to earth a bit soon and expose a weakness along one or both lines running the ball. 

And as it comes to the Packers they could go 17-0 and I would still be nervous they come out flat in the divisional and score 10 points. 

 

It's so much about health between now and the playoffs, but impossible to not see how the Packers are one of the top 2-3 teams in the conference - once the playoffs get here, how Love plays will determine how far they advance assuming their roster isn't decimated by injuries.

And yeah, a team that can run the ball like Philly with weapons on the outside is something that can pose problems for any team/defense.

[OldHeidelberg]

JJ McCarthy has high ankle sprain and is week to week. Translation? He isn't ready and needs more time, Wentz era to start against Bengals this week. Sounds like Jayden Daniels will miss some time with sprained knee too.

[HarryDoyle]

11 minutes ago, OldHeidelberg said:

JJ McCarthy has high ankle sprain and is week to week. Translation? He isn't ready and needs more time, Wentz era to start against Bengals this week. Sounds like Jayden Daniels will miss some time with sprained knee too.

So it will be Wentz vs. Browning? Sounds like Burrow will be out until December.

[Fear The Chorizo]

50 minutes ago, OldHeidelberg said:

JJ McCarthy has high ankle sprain and is week to week. Translation? He isn't ready and needs more time, Wentz era to start against Bengals this week. Sounds like Jayden Daniels will miss some time with sprained knee too.

I dont think he is ready....but I think the injury is also legit.  Vikes actually have a pretty long list of injuries already this season.

Wentz is a quarterback that doesnt get to have an era - he's not good enough, and that oline is still the same awful unit in front of anyone under center

[OldHeidelberg]

33 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

I dont think he is ready....but I think the injury is also legit.  Vikes actually have a pretty long list of injuries already this season.

Wentz is a quarterback that doesnt get to have an era - he's not good enough, and that oline is still the same awful unit in front of anyone under center

He was clearly pretty banged up at the end of the game last night, I don't doubt he is injured. But I think he will be given a long time to heal as long as Wentz is adequate and moves the offense. He does have 156 career TD's, not sure why the wheels came off so bad as I never really followed him the last 2-3 years. Just saying the Vikes got career years out of Darnold and Keenum before, it would not surprise me at all if Wentz did OK.

[CheezWizHed]

2025 results for the QBs the Vikings had last year:

Name	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
JJ McCarthy	22	MIN	NFL	QB	2	2	1-1-0	24	41	58.5	301	2	4.9	3	7.3	12	36.0	50	7.3	5.02	12.5	150.5	67.2	52.6	9	47	18.00	5.08	3.18	1	1

Name	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
Sam Darnold	28	SEA	NFL	QB	2	2	1-1-0	38	56	67.9	445	2	3.6	2	3.6	19	42.4	43	7.9	7.05	11.7	222.5	88.8	56.0	3	21	5.08	7.19	6.34	0	1

Name	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
Daniel Jones	28	IND	NFL	QB	2	2	2-0-0	45	63	71.4	588	2	3.2	0	0.0	30	60.0	44	9.3	9.97	13.1	294.0	111.1	87.5	2	20	3.08	8.74	9.35	1	1

[True Blue Brew Crew]

11 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I am not quite ready to annoint us. We have to play more games. We've seen the Packers get absolutely rocked in week 1 so I'm giving the Lions some slack. It's just too early to make sweeping generalizations. I expect someone will bring the Packers down to earth a bit soon and expose a weakness along one or both lines running the ball. 

And as it comes to the Packers they could go 17-0 and I would still be nervous they come out flat in the divisional and score 10 points. 

 

After your outlook early in training camp, the surprise would have been if you were now ready to anoint them

[adambr2]

Counting on Nick Chubb as your RB1 even with Nixon out is crazy. He is so washed. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

3 hours ago, True Blue Brew Crew said:

After your outlook early in training camp, the surprise would have been if you were now ready to anoint them

Are you referring to my realistic take that I couldn't put a pulse on the kind of team the Packers would be? Where I said I think anyone could rationalize anything between 7 and 13 wins?

I predicted the Packers to go 11-6 before they traded for Parsons. Not sure what you're getting at. I never thought the Packers would suck. I've said this like 10 thousand times but the same 3 posters continue misconstruing it. They looked like the same playoff team they had been without any blockbuster move to get them over the top. 

Apparently the general manager agreed. 

 

[young guns]

We've seen running backs go down in more clear end the game situations, but I wonder if things like that will be extended out for situations like Houston was in.  Maybe I'm thinking too much with a madden mindset, but if you go down just passed the first down, you can eat the 2 minute warning and all 3 of their timeouts and if you get another first down you can likely eat the rest of the clock and/or still get a td.

Additionally, that seems like a 2 point attempt that wasn't worth it.  Not sure going up 3 with 6 seconds left is worth risking them getting the, Admittedly super rare, defensive 2 point conversion to win the game.

[BrewerFan]

On 9/14/2025 at 3:03 PM, JosephC said:

I'm looking at the ole' Bears message board, and it seems they've finally figured out that Darnell Wright just isn't very good,  But Pro Football Focus will probably have all of those Bear offensive linemen with good grades.

Yeah, I've seen that. Talking about how they should have drafted Carter and that's more important than RT. That's... revisionist(from them IMO). They desperately needed an OT for the young QBs who they've paraded through their, a #2 overall pick, the #11 pick and now the #1 pick.

I think Wright is just about one of the good decisions Poles has made. I haven't watched this year real closely. I saw he got beat on some bad technique, but I thought he'd been one of the few bright spots the last couple years for the Bears on offense.

I did see that Davenport sack where he just does a little up and under and beats Wright. IDK man... they really just seem cursed. Imagine if they'd just kept Fields, traded back when they got the Panthers 1st pick, taken Joe Alt, Odunze seemed like a good pick. But  it's everything else. Loveland instead of Warren. Taking a punter in the 4th rd. You do that when you're finishing a team. They weren't finishing! 

 

I remember Merrill Hodge who has been...shockingly accurate on some QB predictions and he said he'd piss off his OL by leaving the pocket early. Him, Thuney... I kinda thought they were fine. It's Dalman, Jackson and then Braxton Jones...speaking of bad PFF grades, he's bad IMO. 

I also thought Kiran Amegadjie and then Trillo this past year were both good young OTs and... I think they were both healthy scratches. 

 

So they're not doing something to develop OL. And I might be wrong on Wright or maybe he's just struggled this year, but get rid of Poles! I mean, I hope they don't, but trading an early 2nd for Claypool, trading a 2nd for Sweat when... he was going to be a FA and then paying him market value. Early 2nd, that's where you draft OL. Maybe not OTs, but OGs...

I'm enjoying it though. Maybe they let Wright leave, we pick him up cheap and finally a team leaves one NFCN team and he actually gets better. 

[HarryDoyle]

Bengals signed Sean Clifford for quarterback insurance. I’m surprised they didn’t inquire us about Malik Willis.

[BrewerFan]

4 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

Bengals signed Sean Clifford for quarterback insurance. I’m surprised they didn’t inquire us about Malik Willis.

They did. They offered a 6th apparently.