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Not blaming Turang, but man chasing on a 3-1 FB when Devin was struggling to throw strikes was brutal. Devin was locating much better against Chourio and Yelich. Feel like Turang giving Devin an out turned that inning around for Devin.

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the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Freddy was very Freddy-ish today, which isn't to say he was bad. Murph just always needs to assume he has to find 12 outs from the pen when he takes the hill. The efficiency I hoped to find as his career unfolded, probably won't happen.

Williams fits the same opening comment. Lotsa baserunners & all three outs he recorded came on full counts. Too bad Turang couldn't find green grass; that was a hell of an AB from him. 

If his spring and the AB he put up today are any indication I think Jake Bauers could be a serviceable LH bench bat.

I would say we were victimized by a slightly crooked Judge in the 7th. Or at least a very lucky one. Capra was there for that grounder.

Other than that, eh. Neither team swung the bats very well; they chased a little less than we did though. Rodon was very good. I didn't like the Yelich AB early w/Turang at 1st. Probably not running vs a LHP but OTOH don't swing at the 1st pitch.

Only 161 left to shake the slump.

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3 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Not blaming Turang, but man chasing on a 3-1 FB when Devin was struggling to throw strikes was brutal. Devin was locating much better against Chourio and Yelich. Feel like Turang giving Devin an out turned that inning around for Devin.

I'd have to look at it again. I didn't think it was a big chase when I saw it live.

Taking 3-1 regardless wouldn't have been a bad idea though.

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2 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'd have to look at it again. I didn't think it was a big chase when I saw it live.

Taking 3-1 regardless wouldn't have been a bad idea though.

That's the spot to attack if you get your pitch against a guy like Devin - not faulting Turang for getting into that hitters count and then taking a rip at a fastball he knew was coming even if it wasn't middle middle

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A few days ago on Chourio from Murph. Feels prescient after today..

“But,” Murphy added, “he’s young, and he’s human like everyone else. I want to warn people that there will be a 1-for-30. There’s going to be one.

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I thought Turang should have held off 3-1, but what are you gonna do there? That's the fastball you're looking for, not that far off from the zone. I get being a little overzealous and trying to do damage.

Chuorio tipped his cap to Devin on K number 5, as he should have. Just a filthy change-up and it was a strike. Nothing you can do. Devin was early-season Devin. Fought it, found the change, and escaped. Hard to think he's available Saturday after nearly 40 pitches, at least.

Generally speaking, that felt like a typical early season game. Yankees got all the breaks (really probably should have only had 1-2 runs), and we struggled to get the big hit. Good fight in the ninth. Good battle from the bullpen.

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2 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'd have to look at it again. I didn't think it was a big chase when I saw it live.

Taking 3-1 regardless wouldn't have been a bad idea though.

It wasn't a crazy chase but it's a 3-1 FB that was up and away. Turang is not going to do damage on a pitch like that. I'd have much rather seen a chase on a changeup dipping below the zone where you're hunting a FB middle or low in the zone than chasing a pitch you're not going to do damage on. Need to keep the bat on your shoulders. FB up and away has been a problem area for Turang with chases. Last year Turang had a 32.8% chase rate on pitches up and away. If you limit it to strictly FB he had a 42.4% chase rate on up and away pitches.

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4 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

 

Chuorio tipped his cap to Devin on K number 5, as he should have. Just a filthy change-up and it was a strike. 

Just part of a what-else-can-go-wrong day for Chourio. Great location, AND like you said, a strike.

Bad throw on the sac fly too. Flush the whole damn day Jackson lol.

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2 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

It wasn't a crazy chase but it's a 3-1 FB that was up and away. Turang is not going to do damage on a pitch like that. I'd have much rather seen a chase on a changeup dipping below the zone where you're hunting a FB middle or low in the zone than chasing a pitch you're not going to do damage on. Need to keep the bat on your shoulders. FB up and away has been a problem area for Turang with chases. Last year Turang had a 32.8% chase rate on pitches up and away. If you limit it to strictly FB he had a 42.4% chase rate on up and away pitches.

That's fair. He's certainly someone you wouldn't mind seeing treating a 3-1 pitch there from DW like it's a 3-0 pitch & watching it.

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11 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

That's the spot to attack if you get your pitch against a guy like Devin - not faulting Turang for getting into that hitters count and then taking a rip at a fastball he knew was coming even if it wasn't middle middle

Yes fault Turang for swinging at a 3-1 FB in a spot he was going to do no damage on. On FB in the up and away corner of the strike zone and up and outside of the strike zone, Turang had a .188 BA and .313 SLG in 2024...If you exclude the ones outside the zone and just look at the ones in the up and away part of the zone Turang had a .053 BA and .053 SLG.

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Just now, Jim French Stepstool said:

That's fair. He's certainly someone you wouldn't mind seeing treating a 3-1 pitch there from DW ike it's a 3-0 pitch & watch it.

I have no issue with him swinging 3-1 but you have to pick a spot you're setting your eyes on and only swing if the pitch is there. A FB up and away is not that spot for Turang.

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Pirates about to lose their opener after leading most of the game

O’Neil Cruz with a brutal misjudgment of a leadoff fly ball in the bottom of the ninth in Miami

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2 hours ago, jw5511986 said:

He was right but how'd he call the first 2 strikes and not the 3rd one? All in the same spot. Unreal consistency on an already poor strike zone.

That's been going on for sooooo long. Umpires that call the 'count' instead of the pitch. Pitcher won't get a similar call once it gets to 0-2 or 1-2.

OTOH, you get the call on the 3rd one if it's 2-0. I'm not nuts about robots for ball/strike calls but for this particular problem it's probably the only solution.

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6 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

That's been going on for sooooo long. Umpires that call the 'count' instead of the pitch. Pitcher won't get a similar call once it gets to 0-2 or 1-2.

OTOH, you get the call on the 3rd one if it's 2-0. I'm not nuts about robots for ball/strike calls but for this particular problem it's probably the only solution.

Robots.

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8 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

That's been going on for sooooo long. Umpires that call the 'count' instead of the pitch. Pitcher won't get a similar call once it gets to 0-2 or 1-2.

OTOH, you get the call on the 3rd one if it's 2-0. I'm not nuts about robots for ball/strike calls but for this particular problem it's probably the only solution.

I agree, I also think the big market teams get more calls just like the NBA. 

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I figured the game was over at 4-1 so the old lady and I went out for a drink after walking the dogs. I get to the tavern and it's 4-1 but the bases are loaded with nobody out. Turang squared that ball up, it just went to the wrong part of the park.

Chourio.. lol.. what can you say about today? Ugly. Thought he had a better at bat at least, but he also had some pitches to hit. Oh well.

Figured Yeli was not going to get 'er done. 

Frustrating loss but damn it's good to have baseball back. 

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3 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Bad throw on the sac fly too.

Which was a function of an early PH for Mitchell, otherwise Chourio would have been in LF and Mitchell likely makes a better throw that gets the runner.

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15 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Which was a function of an early PH for Mitchell, otherwise Chourio would have been in LF and Mitchell likely makes a better throw that gets the runner.

Yes. But I would get used to it. Looking at this roster makeup, when a lefty is out there for the opposition I see it happening fairly often if we're trailing.

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25 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Which was a function of an early PH for Mitchell, otherwise Chourio would have been in LF and Mitchell likely makes a better throw that gets the runner.

It would have been Frelick making the throw not Mitchell.

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