Red Sox bats

[jay87shot]

With Roman Anthony and Marcelo Mayer close to call ups and Yoshida coming off the IL it is clear the Red Sox have some extra bats. We've discussed Triston Casas a bunch in the offseason, we don't really need an OF'er even with Mitchell out. My thought was maybe Trevor Story or at least a David Hamilton reunion, David Hamilton hasn't been good in a small sample this year however.

Story has 2 years remaining after this year on his big contract and that would be a gigantic barrier but putting him at SS would help 2 positions (SS, 3B). I don't think that a Story deal will ever work out unless the Sox eat a majority of that deal. I would love Cases but with Hoskins playing well don't see a deal being obvious because I doubt the Sox would want Hoskins back. 

Story and Cases for Hoskins, a reliever, a prospect or 2 is really clunky. Maybe it would need a 3 team angle.

We get Story the SF gets Rhys and Boston gets Jordan Hicks (move to bullpen) Red Sox eat like 1/2 of Story's remaining contract. EMJ play 1st for us, not a fan of either

[TURBO]

42 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

we don't really need an OF'er even with Mitchell out.

Yeah, I think we DO REALLY need an outfielder.

Are you basing that on the return of Perkins?  Perkins, though he plays stellar defense just isn't going to cut it offensively.

Right now we have Chourio, Frelick, Yelich (kind of...) and Collins/Perkins.  If Yelich starts drawing more DH games, as he should, that leaves us extremely thin at OF.

We may not need an OFer as much as a 3B, but the need is there for a mashing OFer.

[tmwiese55]

Yea I'd take a proven reliable hitting OF if that option were to come up.  Playing the White Sox I thought of the Robert idea again, but he's been off to a horrible start to follow up his bad last year.   But yes an IF is of way more importance.

I assume Story contract makes it a no go for MKE and that Boston will just keep him rather than pay to give him a way.  Seems he's been ok/fine to start the year.   But to be an option for MKE, is his defense still good or has he fallen off with age?   IF he's gone to trash on D then its for sure not an option

[jay87shot]

30 minutes ago, TURBO said:

Yeah, I think we DO REALLY need an outfielder.

Are you basing that on the return of Perkins?  Perkins, though he plays stellar defense just isn't going to cut it offensively.

Right now we have Chourio, Frelick, Yelich (kind of...) and Collins/Perkins.  If Yelich starts drawing more DH games, as he should, that leaves us extremely thin at OF.

We may not need an OFer as much as a 3B, but the need is there for a mashing OFer.

I am taking Perkins coming back and Mitchell will be back in a month or so (from what I understand). To get one of the Red Sox OF's Rafaeala, Abreu, Duran, Anthony it will cost a pretty penny value wise. I don't really count Yoshida as an OF becuase he hasn't played there for so long, however his value is less but again contracts make that to sticky. I don't disagree that for the next couple weeks we could use an OF but if we were to trade for say Wilyer Abreu it will cost at least a top 100 prospect and then we would be left with an extremely overcrowded OF when Perk and Mitchell are back. We have Yeli, Collins, Bauers, and Cameron to cover LF which should be passable for now.

[jay87shot]

26 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

I assume Story contract makes it a no go for MKE and that Boston will just keep him rather than pay to give him a way.  Seems he's been ok/fine to start the year.   But to be an option for MKE, is his defense still good or has he fallen off with age?   IF he's gone to trash on D then its for sure not an option

His defense this year hasn't graded out well but he was a positive defender in the limited games he played the past couple years.

[TURBO]

10 hours ago, jay87shot said:

...but if we were to trade for say Wilyer Abreu it will cost at least a top 100 prospect and then we would be left with an extremely overcrowded OF when Perk and Mitchell are back. We have Yeli, Collins, Bauers, and Cameron to cover LF which should be passable for now.

First off, if all it cost was a top 100 player to get Abreu, I think that deal would already be done.

Secondly, do you really want to go to battle with any of these guys as things sit currently?  We need 3 outfielders that we can count on.  Looks like we have 2 assuming Frelick continues doing what he's doing.  Even he is questionable as we have to have power from someplace in the line up other than Contreras and Chourio.  (I guess you can count Hoskins)  Who knows what we will get from Yelich, but he shouldn't be in the OF every day either, every OFer we have on the roster plays better D than he does.

So you think we are good with Perkins/Mitchell/Collins/Bauers and Cameron?  I don't want any of those guys seeing regular at bats, not one of them.  Those guys plugged into our powerless line-up make me throw up in my mouth.....a lot! 

I stopped counting on Mitchell, to me, he's just a guy who continuously disappoints.  When healthy this season, he was a nothingburger.  Now he's hurt, as shocking as that is.  We simply can't count on him, period.

Perkins is a mostly defense guy who when given extended periods of playing time, doesn't provide enough offense.

Collins in no way projects as an everyday MLB player.  The only reason he has been given an opportunity is because of our endless injuries.

Bauers?  C'mon...

Cameron?  Geez.

So yes, we desperately need another OF who can hit for some power, as we are 100% lacking in that department due to the fact we don't have a SS or 3B that have an ounce of it (power)  Our 1B, which in general should be a power source, just doesn't provide it consistently.

Ugh.

[Brewer77]

The Brewers outfield is the least of its problems right now. Even with Mitchell stinking it up and Chourio being more good than great, they’re still top 10 in OF WAR and 15th in OF wRC+

If there’s an avenue to add a really good player out there, then by all means go for it. But it pales in comparison to the need in the infield

[brewmann04]

Calling Boston offering them Hoskins 

[Madhawk23]

Curious to get thoughts here on what we could get from Boston if we packaged Fred and Rhys together? Could we get Mayer and a couple of their pitching prospects? If so, what pitching prospects could we realistically hope for?

[nate82]

4 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

Curious to get thoughts here on what we could get from Boston if we packaged Fred and Rhys together? Could we get Mayer and a couple of their pitching prospects? If so, what pitching prospects could we realistically hope for?

If you include Peralta with Hoskins you are getting back a few prospects but nothing close to Mayer talent wise.

[TURBO]

Can Mayer play 3B?

If not, can Pratt?

[ghostdrew]

3 hours ago, TURBO said:

Can Mayer play 3B?

If not, can Pratt?

Why does it matter if Pratt can play 3rd he is a ss 

[TURBO]

1 hour ago, ghostdrew said:

Why does it matter if Pratt can play 3rd he is a ss 

So is Mayer,,

If there was a single chance in hell that we would trade for Mayer (which will never happen) he is a SS, and with Pratt on the way, one of them would have to move to 3B.

 

 

[brewers888]

Who needs a third baseman when you have pee wee Durbin who can barely reach first base with his throws.

[endaround]

25 minutes ago, TURBO said:

So is Mayer,,

If there was a single chance in hell that we would trade for Mayer (which will never happen) he is a SS, and with Pratt on the way, one of them would have to move to 3B.

 

 

More likely Pratt is part of the package sent for Mayer (which is still not happening)

[Jopal78]

On 5/1/2025 at 9:32 PM, TURBO said:

First off, if all it cost was a top 100 player to get Abreu, I think that deal would already be done.

Secondly, do you really want to go to battle with any of these guys as things sit currently?  We need 3 outfielders that we can count on.  Looks like we have 2 assuming Frelick continues doing what he's doing.  Even he is questionable as we have to have power from someplace in the line up other than Contreras and Chourio.  (I guess you can count Hoskins)  Who knows what we will get from Yelich, but he shouldn't be in the OF every day either, every OFer we have on the roster plays better D than he does.

So you think we are good with Perkins/Mitchell/Collins/Bauers and Cameron?  I don't want any of those guys seeing regular at bats, not one of them.  Those guys plugged into our powerless line-up make me throw up in my mouth.....a lot! 

I stopped counting on Mitchell, to me, he's just a guy who continuously disappoints.  When healthy this season, he was a nothingburger.  Now he's hurt, as shocking as that is.  We simply can't count on him, period.

Perkins is a mostly defense guy who when given extended periods of playing time, doesn't provide enough offense.

Collins in no way projects as an everyday MLB player.  The only reason he has been given an opportunity is because of our endless injuries.

Bauers?  C'mon...

Cameron?  Geez.

So yes, we desperately need another OF who can hit for some power, as we are 100% lacking in that department due to the fact we don't have a SS or 3B that have an ounce of it (power)  Our 1B, which in general should be a power source, just doesn't provide it consistently.

Ugh.

There’s Chourio, then Mitchell and Frelick both of whom are pre-arbitration eligible former first round picks. Given the pedigree, bonuses, etc. the Brewers simply aren’t going to pull the plug on any of them anytime soon and certainly are not going to trade capital to acquire an outfielder to have one of those 3 ride the bench. 
 

And yes Mitchell is made of glass, but he also has a 3.7 career war in 141 games. That production (plus what they have invested in him) means he’ll have every chance to try to get and stay healthy.

Most realistic is if the Brewers are floating around contention in July, I could see them adding a veteran bat as a 4th OFer.

[jay87shot]

If we were to acquire Mayer or just have Pratt explode and get a call up my guess is that either of them would just play SS. Move Ortiz back to 3B where he was great defensively (if the bat come back around).

[Outlander]

Red Sox may start feeling the pressure of playing Nick Sogard and Abraham Toro on a regular basis. Quality first basemen are not just going to arrive on their doorstep and it is a long way to the end of July. The Brewers could be in position of getting the Red Sox to overpay for Hoskins if they want to stay in the playoff picture. Turnabout is fair play, payback for the Priester trade.

[Underachiever]

2 hours ago, Outlander said:

Red Sox may start feeling the pressure of playing Nick Sogard and Abraham Toro on a regular basis. Quality first basemen are not just going to arrive on their doorstep and it is a long way to the end of July. The Brewers could be in position of getting the Red Sox to overpay for Hoskins if they want to stay in the playoff picture. Turnabout is fair play, payback for the Priester trade.

Wasn't the Priester trade payback for getting Shaw, Dubon and Pennington for Tyler Thornburg? Or perhaps a thank you for taking JBJ back?