Brewers at Phillies; Sunday, June 1 @ 12:35 p.m.: José Quintana (2.65 ERA, 4.54 FIP) vs. Ranger Suarez (2.97 ERA, 2.44 FIP)

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[brewcrewdue80]

How close was Chourio getting hbp in 9th inning AB?  6 for 10 coming in to game in series.

Yelich pelted 1st AB 7 for 11 coming in to game in series?

Me thinks some foul intentions on Phillies end.

I ask on Chourio as GameDay shows location through his arm.  He also had 2 later strike zone pitches called balls as if ump/catcher were giving added opportunities for him to be plunked.

Edited June 1, 2025 by brewcrewdue80
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[Brian]

1 minute ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

How close was Chourio getting hbp in 9th inning AB?  6 for 10 coming in to game in series.

Yelich pelted 1st AB 7 for 11 coming in to game in series?

Me thinks some foul intentions on Phillies end.

I thought the exact same thing. The Mets under Showalter did it all the time. 

[brewcrewdue80]

4 minutes ago, Brian said:

I thought the exact same thing. The Mets under Showalter did it all the time. 

I mean I heard the replay on Yelich with Schroeder saying pitcher only had 10 walks on season and one of the better ones in terms of control.

[brewmann04]

This was totally insane sweeping the Phillies love the way the hitting and pitching and good defense. This was a perfect weekend. Great job brewers 

[BruisedCrew]

Just saw Corbin Burnes throw a pitch and immediately signal to the bench and cuss into his glove. 

It looked like he said,”It’s my oblique”.

Could be a long absence for him.

[wiguy94]

8 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Just saw Corbin Burnes throw a pitch and immediately signal to the bench and cuss into his glove. 

It looked like he said,”It’s my oblique”.

Could be a long absence for him.

Looks like he was saying elbow not oblique

[Frisbee Slider]

I feel for Burnes. It is also a data point for the risks of signing players long term after arbitration years are over.

I respect how hard and well Burnes has played throughout his career and wish him a speedy recovery.

[BruisedCrew]

35 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Looks like he was saying elbow not oblique

I flunked lip reading. 

His body language said “significant injury”.

[yfinn6]

5 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I flunked lip reading. 

His body language said “significant injury”.

"My Elbow. It's done."

[wibadgers23]

7 minutes ago, yfinn6 said:

"My Elbow. It's done."

If it's Tommy John, he could very well miss the rest of this season and most if not all of 2026.  Just brutal.

[wiguy94]

Guess whose career Brewers numbers these are - 439 PA, 14 2B, 2 3B, 16 HR, 59 RBI, 17 SB (1 CS)

[brewmann04]

Have to be very careful when signing pitchers to long term deals 

[BrewerFan]

8 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Guess whose career Brewers numbers these are - 439 PA, 14 2B, 2 3B, 16 HR, 59 RBI, 17 SB (1 CS)

Bauers

[wiguy94]

26 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Bauers

You’d be correct. Doesn’t have a good wRC+ (only about 96-97 after today) but the power and run production output has been very solid and he’s been a sneaky good baserunner.

[willie key]

3 hours ago, jay87shot said:

A road sweep of the Phillies, oh yeah. The offense is starting to get more consistent and the pitching staff is getting to full strength. 

Bring on the Reds

The four innings of relief zeroes is what I was happy about.     That’s been our key for years.   We need to get back to that

 

 

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

You’d be correct. Doesn’t have a good wRC+ (only about 96-97 after today) but the power and run production output has been very solid and he’s been a sneaky good baserunner.

I like him...he's a good defender at 1B, he can play in the OF and it's always nice to have LHed bat off the bench.

I'd have guessed a higher wRC+....maybe 110 but then he was pretty bad the early half of last year...I think.

[BrewerFan]

6 hours ago, brewmann04 said:

Have to be very careful when signing pitchers to long term deals 

Sure... I would still keep doing it the way the Brewers have. Just hypothetically, if we'd signed Peralta to the same deal and he lost 12-14 months with TJ, it's still a good deal. 

Ashby...hasn't been a good deal, but there's still time for it to be and it's hardly crippling if it doesn't work out.

The next level would be signing a guy like Peralta now or Burnes/Woodruff when they had 3 years to go. Buy out the first FA year and then you get a couple of Team Options. I think that's usually worth it IF the pitcher will agree, but that deal will cost a lot more. What would you give Peralta right now(I'm not advocating extending him, just hypothetically). A 4 year 80M dollar extension? 5 years 88M left? Probably favors the Brewers but...I'd pass I think. 

Free Agency? The Brewers aren't even in the discussion for a pitcher of that caliber, so it's kinda moot. 

[Frisbee Slider]

9 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

What would you give Peralta right now(I'm not advocating extending him, just hypothetically). A 4 year 80M dollar extension?

Luis Severino and Jack Flaherty are the two closest comps based on similarity score on Baseball Reference. 

Flaherty signed two years, $35 million and Severino signed three year, $67 million. 

If I were Peralta’s agent, four years $80 million seems like a reasonable ask.

[sveumrules]

Going back to 2022 Freddy has 482 IP of 86 ERA- | 92 FIP- | 10.1 rWAR | 8.3 fWAR.

Over that same stretch Nate Eovaldi has 493 IP of 84 ERA- | 90 FIP- | 10.9 rWAR | 8.4 fWAR.

He just got 3/75 for his age 35-37 seasons.

I don’t think Freddy would consider signing for anything less than $100M in new money and would probably want something closer to 5/125.

[Fear The Chorizo]

5 hours ago, brewmann04 said:

Have to be very careful when signing pitchers to long term deals 

I'd just say, don't do it - pay them the going rates via arbitration during what their actual prime pitching years are if they don't want any sort of longterm guarantee that buys a year or two out of free agency at discount rates, and then wish them well.  

The market hasn't fully come around to this, but pitchers are on their way to becoming the MLB version of what running backs are in the NFL - all the extra roster spots devoted on team 40 man roster and MLB 26 man game day rosters have created tons of space for guys throwing high 90s to make league minimum, get outs, and promptly be cycled through once they start getting expensive/injured.

[BrewerFan]

29 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Luis Severino and Jack Flaherty are the two closest comps based on similarity score on Baseball Reference. 

Flaherty signed two years, $35 million and Severino signed three year, $67 million. 

If I were Peralta’s agent, four years $80 million seems like a reasonable ask.

I probably overshot it as I was trying to come up with a team friendly deal that...would also be acceptable to Peralta, not a fair market deal. 

So make it 4 and 60. If Flaherty is getting 17.5 as a FA, Peralta shouldn't be getting more with 1.5 years of team control. 

I don't like the Severino comp(I don't love either but I get they're just from BRef). 

 

The next deal I'd give a pitcher would be a guy like Gasser. Give him what Ashby got adjusted for inflation. 

Misiorowski, Henderson, I'd try extending most of them...and maybe we do. Signing them early is rare but can be a huge advantage for the team as we're currently seeing. 

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Going back to 2022 Freddy has 482 IP of 86 ERA- | 92 FIP- | 10.1 rWAR | 8.3 fWAR.

Over that same stretch Nate Eovaldi has 493 IP of 84 ERA- | 90 FIP- | 10.9 rWAR | 8.4 fWAR.

He just got 3/75 for his age 35-37 seasons.

I don’t think Freddy would consider signing for anything less than $100M in new money and would probably want something closer to 5/125.

Eovaldi was a FA. Peralta has over 1.5 years before he's a FA.

That's the risk. He could end up in the same situation Burnes is in right now and...conceivably not earn any more money than what is already guaranteed in his contract. 

Going back to Baseball References similarities scores, the #1 match for Peralta at his age....Rich Harden. He was done.

 

Again, I'm not advocating signing him or not, I was more making the point that this situation is as close to spending on a pitcher as we'll get. And I don't think we need to do it with Freddy, I think we are developing so many good arms that we're going to be fine(and we'll find a couple). 

But 5/125 feels closer to free market value than where we are right now. 

[Pugger]

18 hours ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Hiura at 1B and Orlando Arcia at 2B today for Colorado. That should fix things 🙂

I feel bad for those fans fore sure.