Brewers at Cubs; Thursday, August 21 @ 1:20 p.m.: Quinn Priester (3.48 ERA, 4.32 FIP) vs. Shota Imanaga (3.06 ERA, 4.32 FIP)

[adambr2]

Great eye by Yeli on a tough pitch to take. He’s been rung up on pitches like that this season. 

[tmwiese55]

4 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Thank you. The reporting of EV on every single contact that we make isn’t all that telling. Hitting a ball 100 MPH with no launch isn’t a great result and we don’t need to act like every 100+ EV ball should have wound up in the outfield gap if it weren’t for the darned bad luck. 

But it is true.   If that ball gets pulled a bit its  a double and they're ahead.  If its a few feet to the right its a single.  By hitting it very hard it increases the chances of all that happening since the D doesn't have time to get to it.   In reality, it is 'luck' in the sense that of where it goes in a say 20-30 ft radius.  The harder you hit it though the higher the chances.  By hitting it so hard it is essentially has to go right at someone, which is bad luck when it does

[treego14]

1 minute ago, tmwiese55 said:

But it is true.   If that ball gets pulled a bit its  adouble and they're ahead.  If its a few fee to the right its a single.  By hitting it very hard it increases the chances of all that happening since the D doesn't have time to get to it.   In reality, it is 'luck' in the sense that of where it goes in a say 20-30 ft radius.  The harder you hit it though the higher the chances.  By hitting it so hard it is essentially has to go right at someone, which is bad luck when it does

wiese is wise!

[BCF]

1 minute ago, tmwiese55 said:

But it is true.   If that ball gets pulled a bit its  adouble and they're ahead.  If its a few fee to the right its a single.  By hitting it very hard it increases the chances of all that happening since the D doesn't have time to get to it.   In reality, it is 'luck' in the sense that of where it goes in a say 20-30 ft radius.  The harder you hit it though the higher the chances.  By hitting it so hard it is essentially has to go right at someone, which is bad luck when it does

I mean the Brewers rely on those type of hits going through. They aren't the team that's gonna drive the ball really into the gap or homer. It's the grounders that get through and line drives for a base hit. 

 

[BCF]

BRICE

[adambr2]

Brice!!

[treego14]

You rang, Turang?

[Brian]

Brice Turang into the wind lol PED's? 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Turangasaurus Brice is on a roll. 

[yfinn6]

Man I love Brice. 

[treego14]

1 minute ago, Brian said:

Brice Turang into the wind lol PED's? 

Weight Work!

[tmwiese55]

1 minute ago, Brian said:

Brice Turang into the wind lol PED's? 

remember he had one last night to that was a rocket to the wall. Don't recall if it was caught or was the one that was almost caught.  But that was a homer almost any other day.  Quite the power run he's been on

[adambr2]

4 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

But it is true.   If that ball gets pulled a bit its  a double and they're ahead.  If its a few feet to the right its a single.  By hitting it very hard it increases the chances of all that happening since the D doesn't have time to get to it.   In reality, it is 'luck' in the sense that of where it goes in a say 20-30 ft radius.  The harder you hit it though the higher the chances.  By hitting it so hard it is essentially has to go right at someone, which is bad luck when it does

I don’t deny that EV matters, and that a hard hit ball is obviously better than a pop fly. But launch angle is part of the equation, too.  An elevated line drive at 105 is different than 105 on the ground.

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, yfinn6 said:

Man I love Brice. 

Not even in the top 10 MLB 2nd basemen per MLB.

[Brewer77]

The growth Turang has shown since he debuted is remarkable. From pure slap hitter to legitimate 20 HR threat

[BCF]

Interesting strategy by Counsell sitting Shaw and Cassie today when they were the reasons why they won the past 3 games...

[Team Canada]

19 minutes ago, MuckyFingers said:

Yes, Contreras has mastered the 105 MPH ground ball right at the SS.

Welcome!

[nate82]

8 HR’s in the month of August for Turang!  That is probably his expected yearly total or there about.

[adambr2]

8 minutes ago, Brian said:

Brice Turang into the wind lol PED's? 

I’ve seen it legitimately thrown around as a suggestion lately, because that’s what some people go right to when a guy gets hot and they have no other suggestion to turn to.

I remember the Cubs whining about Eric Thames a few years ago and some Cubs coach throwing out a baseles accusation. I think it was Chris Bosio.

[yfinn6]

Gah c'mon Vaughn. 

[Brian]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

I’ve seen it legitimately thrown around as a suggestion lately, because that’s what some people go right to when a guy gets hot and they have no other suggestion to turn to.

I remember the Cubs whining about Eric Thames a few years ago and some Cubs coach throwing out a baseles accusation. I think it was Chris Bosio.

Except now days everyone gets tested Spring Training: All players are tested for performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs), during the season approximately 3,200 more are tested. That means everyone tested a minimum of 3x per year.

[Nola Beery]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I mean...kinda? I think it means a lot more to this forum than reality. With the tiebreaker out the window this isn't really any different from beating the Giants and the Cubs dropping a game on any other day. Time is on the Brewers side though, so I would think that the odds shift pretty drastically each day the Cubs don't pick up a game. 

It's an important game; all of them from this point on are important, but the point stands that the odds are on our side even with a loss today, likely overwhelmingly so. We're just seeing recency bias collide with emotion.

It's a mistake to confuse this forum with reality!  😉😂  This is the space to panic or to get crazy-euphoric, although it's occasionally interrupted by stats and other intelligent talk. 

[Brian]

11 minutes ago, Nola Beery said:

It's a mistake to confuse this forum with reality!  😉😂  This is the space to panic or to get crazy-euphoric, although it's occasionally interrupted by stats and other intelligent talk. 

The bipolar thread me included. 

[yfinn6]

That was an ugly inning. 

[Nola Beery]

I read a book about backgammon years ago. The author called it the cruelest game because it was like baseball: you play all the right odds, but the roll of the dice (or a bounce or the wind or some freaky variable) cancels all of your brilliance.