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The last regular the Brewers traded for at the deadline was Eduardo Escobar all the way back in 2021. Arnold hasn’t done it as GM.

Thus I assume this year will be no different and they’ll shop for bullpen arms, and bench players. Maybe a back of the rotation starting pitcher like Montas if they can get one by absorbing payroll on an expiring deal. 

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8 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

The last regular the Brewers traded for at the deadline was Eduardo Escobar all the way back in 2021. Arnold hasn’t done it as GM.

Not remotely true. Brewers traded for both Canha and Santana in 2023. They were 3rd and 4th in PA on the team post deadline. 

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Giants almost definitely will sell. Trying to figure out how to fit Arraez into the lineup or Chapman into the budget. Arraez to 2B and Turang to SS? Bring in Chapman for the year and flip him in the offseason? Both highly unlikely. Thought about Wily for a minute (think they would eat salary) but he has a negative WAR and I don’t think he fits the team anymore (not that desperate for a defensive butcher at SS).

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Both Adames and Chapman have no trade clauses so the Giants would have to get the ok from them first before they can even entertain a trade.  Devers is probably the easier one to trade and he has a bigger contract.

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14 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

Not remotely true. Brewers traded for both Canha and Santana in 2023. They were 3rd and 4th in PA on the team post deadline. 

You’re right, although I suppose I should have framed it as the Brewers don’t shop for premium talent, impact players, difference makers, etc. at the deadline, rather they look for role players and  depth pieces.  In fact, both Canha and Santana were approximately league average bats in 2023 depending on the metric you use. Escobar, by contrast, played in the All-Star game in 2021 and was amongst the top 5-6 in homers by MLB 3B when traded. 

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2 hours ago, Jopal78 said:

You’re right, although I suppose I should have framed it as the Brewers don’t shop for premium talent, impact players, difference makers, etc. at the deadline, rather they look for role players and  depth pieces.  In fact, both Canha and Santana were approximately league average bats in 2023 depending on the metric you use. Escobar, by contrast, played in the All-Star game in 2021 and was amongst the top 5-6 in homers by MLB 3B when traded. 

You’d be wrong again. Eduardo Escobar had a 105 wRC+ and the only reason he made the ASG is because every team is required to have an All Star. Canha had a 104 wRC+ and Santana had a 97 wRC+. These were all the same level hitters. 

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1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

You’d be wrong again. Eduardo Escobar had a 105 wRC+ and the only reason he made the ASG is because every team is required to have an All Star. Canha had a 104 wRC+ and Santana had a 97 wRC+. These were all the same level hitters. 

That’s the thing about metrics. There is one to support any point someone wants to make. Escobar got a multi-year deal  after leaving Milwaukee as a free agent. Santana signed a 1 year deal with Minnesota as camp opened the next season and Canha was traded to Detroit in a salary dump 

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I know he would never ok the trade but how awesome would a Yeli, Sal, and pitching prospect for Matt Chapman trade be. Again  I am not saying this would happen. Yeli is a great leader but Chapman would fill a huge void and Vaughn could slide into the DH.

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When Lara comes up are there any potential contollable relievers that we could swap Sal or Mitchell for? I still like Lockridge as a cheap 4th OF with the lefty heavy OF and Bauers and Yeli as depth.

The Guardians and Jays came to mind as an OF needy usually strong bullpen. I know there are probably at least a few other contenders who could use OF help. Jeff Hoffman could be sweet upside swap if the Jay's eat like half his salary this year and next.

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On 6/16/2026 at 1:26 PM, Jopal78 said:

That’s the thing about metrics. There is one to support any point someone wants to make. Escobar got a multi-year deal  after leaving Milwaukee as a free agent. Santana signed a 1 year deal with Minnesota as camp opened the next season and Canha was traded to Detroit in a salary dump 

Well, how about this as a supporting point. The Brewers gave up two prospects who were... never really prospects. Never top 30, even in more mediocre Brewers farm systems. 

I don't think teams are trading him for that if they believe he's "premium talent."

 

So not sure Cooper Hummel and Alberto Ciprian really qualified as "premium talent," compared to the compensation for Canha or Santana and he signed a 2 year 20M contract with the Steve Cohen Mets. You want to take issue with just... flat, objective metrics like WRC+, but you phrase it as though he went out and got some big monster deal. 

 

Also, Canha and Santana both have more WAR in their limited time with the Brewers than Escobar did with his time with the Brewers and the rest of his career through that "multi-year deal." 

 

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We mentioned Reid Detmers, he has been good the last month and has been getting pretty solid national hype.

However what about Jose Soriano? He was amazing the 1st 7 or 8 starts and hasn't been great the past month or so. However that might bring his value down, maybe below Detmers. Soriano throws 97 with a great splitter and solid curveball, he walks to many guys but that seems to be where Hook and company exceed. He has 2 years of control, he would cost a pretty solid package like Detmers but could bea sneaky solid add. I would guess either guy would cost less than Skubal and both have multiple years of control.

 

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22 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

We mentioned Reid Detmers, he has been good the last month and has been getting pretty solid national hype.

However what about Jose Soriano? He was amazing the 1st 7 or 8 starts and hasn't been great the past month or so. However that might bring his value down, maybe below Detmers. Soriano throws 97 with a great splitter and solid curveball, he walks to many guys but that seems to be where Hook and company exceed. He has 2 years of control, he would cost a pretty solid package like Detmers but could bea sneaky solid add. I would guess either guy would cost less than Skubal and both have multiple years of control.

 

Yes, Reid Detmers seems to be getting stronger every outing.  Jose Soriano the exact opposite, Soriano started the season with six great starts followed by eight outings that didn’t go very well. 

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Don’t expect the Angels to sell off pieces.  They may trade from their bullpen or bench players but their owner is the Herb Kohl of MLB.  Major trades are not a thing for this franchise and even some minor ones.  While Detmers is not a major trade he would qualify as one for the Angels.

The Angels owner killed a deal that would have sent Ohtani to the Rays.  The Angels would be a better team right now if they would have done that trade.

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1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Don’t expect the Angels to sell off pieces.  They may trade from their bullpen or bench players but their owner is the Herb Kohl of MLB.  Major trades are not a thing for this franchise and even some minor ones.  While Detmers is not a major trade he would qualify as one for the Angels.

The Angels owner killed a deal that would have sent Ohtani to the Rays.  The Angels would be a better team right now if they would have done that trade.


Well, if Arte is the Herb Kohl of MLB, then... we just need to find a player in the last year of his contract who explicitly says he doesn't want to play in LA, who is looking to win a ring and then trade our franchise cornerstone player who is 27 and comes out and expresses how much he loves Milwaukee and wants to stay here... and we can trade those two players for each other!

And then after that you can trade Glenn Robinson and Sam Cassell, Tim Thomas and blow up a team in a few weeks... for no discernible reason. 

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Arte is not that dumb but one could only hope he would do that. Though one could argue he is the dumbest owner in MLB when they had no chance and didn’t capitalize on a trade of Ohtani.  

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1 hour ago, nate82 said:

Arte is not that dumb but one could only hope he would do that. Though one could argue he is the dumbest owner in MLB when they had no chance and didn’t capitalize on a trade of Ohtani.  

The guy who runs the Rockies is giving him a run for his money

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