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With the Giannis sweepstakes starting I thought this could be a good thread.

Here is my scenerio for now

1) Giannis to Boston for Jaylen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez and 2 1st (this year and next)

Celtics get Giannis, we can move Brown for more pieces and get a couple late 1st and Gonzalez a late 1st last year. 

2) Brown to Miami for Tyler Herro, Ka'el Ware, Wiggins and #13

I think this is what the Heat offered for Giannis minus a 1st (maybe Rozier instead of Wiggins). Brown and Bam would be a great tandem in Miami.

3) Herro and Turner for Jimmy Butler, Podziemski, and 2 future 1st.

The Warriors get a 2 guard to help Steph and a big to help Draymond. They get younger and help in the 2 spots they need. Priming themselves 1 more chance while they have Steph.

4)Wiggins to for Duncan Robinson, Caris Lavert and #21

Detriot gets rid of 2 bad contracts and gets a solid vet who can help Cade and Duren for a 1st.

1) Rollins 2) Pod 3) Jimmy 4) Ware 5) Bobby  Bench= Gonzalez, Robinson Levert, Green, #10, #13, #21, #27. Maybe money to sign a free agent like KPJ or Dieng

My picks 10= Burries 13=Mara 21=Graves 27=Veesaar

I didn't send Jimmy anywhere because we need a vet to keep this team competitive. If there isn't a good in season trade, after the year he would be a free agent helping our cap situation. It could be possible to trade Robinson, Lavert, or Green to shooting needy team and get an expiring big like Robinson for Vanderbilt to the Lakers.

In all 6 1st, Ware, Pod, Gonzalez, Jimmy for Giannis, Turner, and taking back other 2 bad contracts.

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With Giannis having one year left only he can, if he wants to, control where he goes and limit the return. If he says I will only sign an extension with the Knicks, then the Knicks can lowball the bucks. Now if Giannis says that he will go anywhere and sign an extension as long as he thinks that can win a championship, then its on and we can discuss trade ideas.

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13 hours ago, jay87shot said:

3) Herro and Turner for Jimmy Butler, Podziemski, and 2 future 1st.

Butler would refuse to play in Milwaukee.  You would have to trade Butler or release him so I think that trade is dead in the water unless you can get a third team involved to take on Butler and that probably eats one or both of the picks.  

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12 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Butler would refuse to play in Milwaukee.  You would have to trade Butler or release him so I think that trade is dead in the water unless you can get a third team involved to take on Butler and that probably eats one or both of the picks.  

I am interested in picks, young players  with star potential and expiring contracts. So Butler isn't something I would want back even if he would play here (but he won't).

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3 hours ago, patrickgpe said:

I am interested in picks, young players  with star potential and expiring contracts. So Butler isn't something I would want back even if he would play here (but he won't).

Yeah it'd be just like the current regime to want "veteran, playoff-ready talent" in return. 

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10 hours ago, patrickgpe said:

With Giannis having one year left only he can, if he wants to, control where he goes and limit the return. If he says I will only sign an extension with the Knicks, then the Knicks can lowball the bucks. Now if Giannis says that he will go anywhere and sign an extension as long as he thinks that can win a championship, then its on and we can discuss trade ideas.

I'd still take Jaylen Brown. I think you could turn around and get a lot for him... but I don't see Boston making that trade. 

I'm also fine with veterans as long as you're getting back picks+ young players. Most deals will include bad contracts just due to his deal... but Giannis is going to be 32, he played 36 games and he's got 1 year left on his deal. 

I don't think trading Giannis is going to bring back a particularly big return. I'm seeing the Thunder trade for PG13 on Reddit or other places. These elaborate trades where we get back a guy like SGA and a boatload of future picks from OKC and SA. 

 

I don't like the way things have ended... based on what Portis and others have said, it's mostly an issue with Doc and Giannis(and Doc and the rest of the team) but I just wish this would have ended on better terms. 

Still, he got us a Championship and I'm good with this era. Obviously... I wish we'd have won more, but still, getting to see a title was pretty damn cool. 

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13 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I'd still take Jaylen Brown. I think you could turn around and get a lot for him... but I don't see Boston making that trade. 

I'm also fine with veterans as long as you're getting back picks+ young players. Most deals will include bad contracts just due to his deal... but Giannis is going to be 32, he played 36 games and he's got 1 year left on his deal. 

I don't think trading Giannis is going to bring back a particularly big return. I'm seeing the Thunder trade for PG13 on Reddit or other places. These elaborate trades where we get back a guy like SGA and a boatload of future picks from OKC and SA. 

 

I don't like the way things have ended... based on what Portis and others have said, it's mostly an issue with Doc and Giannis(and Doc and the rest of the team) but I just wish this would have ended on better terms. 

Still, he got us a Championship and I'm good with this era. Obviously... I wish we'd have won more, but still, getting to see a title was pretty damn cool. 

Last year Desmond Bane got 4 1st, a swap, and a couple filler salaries. I would think we should get a much better return than that. I am pretty sure the Heat offered Ware, Herro, a salary matcher (Rozier) and 2 picks (all they had) at the draft they will have 3. In turn, I would almost guarentee the Lakers offers Reaves and all there picks they can trade. Those offers for me are the low point of what we should get, I doubt the Spurs or OKC get involved but there should be interest from just about every other them that was in the playoffs. 1 team should get a little desperate and give us a boatload of picks and some young talent.

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1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

Last year Desmond Bane got 4 1st, a swap, and a couple filler salaries. I would think we should get a much better return than that. I am pretty sure the Heat offered Ware, Herro, a salary matcher (Rozier) and 2 picks (all they had) at the draft they will have 3. In turn, I would almost guarentee the Lakers offers Reaves and all there picks they can trade. Those offers for me are the low point of what we should get, I doubt the Spurs or OKC get involved but there should be interest from just about every other them that was in the playoffs. 1 team should get a little desperate and give us a boatload of picks and some young talent.

Ok. And that's... absolutely nowhere near what the Thunder got for PG13... which was what I said, and I don't think it's nearly as good of a package as the Jaylen Brown trade. 

 

The Lakers can offer the 25th pick this year(not particularly valuable), and then 2 picks in '31 and '33 and Reaves... who is not a young blue chip player. 

That's not near the OKC trade... which is what I was going off of and I don't think it's as valuable as the Jaylen Brown trade that I don't think the Celtics are biting on. 


And maybe every other team that was in the playoffs will have interest. And if Giannis says "I want to go to NYK?" Then ALL those teams are hoping he'll change his mind in a year and sign an extension. So I think those teams will lose interest after that point. 

 

 

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I don't know what is going to happen or how it is going to happen. BUT, with John Horts and Milty steering a vessel sponsored by a heavily involved Jimmy Haslam, I don't know what could go wrong. We got this!

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2 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Last year Desmond Bane got 4 1st, a swap, and a couple filler salaries. I would think we should get a much better return than that. I am pretty sure the Heat offered Ware, Herro, a salary matcher (Rozier) and 2 picks (all they had) at the draft they will have 3. In turn, I would almost guarentee the Lakers offers Reaves and all there picks they can trade. Those offers for me are the low point of what we should get, I doubt the Spurs or OKC get involved but there should be interest from just about every other them that was in the playoffs. 1 team should get a little desperate and give us a boatload of picks and some young talent.

Desmond Bane was traded with 4 years of control, Giannis has one and can dictate his destination by simply refusing to sign an extension with anyone but his preferred team. If Giannis wants to do Milwaukee a solid and does want to move on, he should let this become a true bidding war. Then again, whats his motivation for that? By doing so, it means less assets are owned by his new club. 

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On 5/13/2026 at 12:17 PM, patrickgpe said:

Desmond Bane was traded with 4 years of control, Giannis has one and can dictate his destination by simply refusing to sign an extension with anyone but his preferred team. If Giannis wants to do Milwaukee a solid and does want to move on, he should let this become a true bidding war. Then again, whats his motivation for that? By doing so, it means less assets are owned by his new club. 

Any trade of Giannis is going to require a contract extension, so the only difference is that Bane's contract was complete while Giannis' just needs some lip service. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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Minnesota gets Giannis and Caris Levert

Detriot gets Jrue Holiday and Julius Randle

Portland get Jaden McDaniels and Duncan Robinson

We get Isiah Stewart, Ron Holland, Scoot Henderson, Donte Divencenzo, 2026 Minny 1st #28, 2028 and 2032 Minny, Pistons 1st's 27 and 29, our 2029 own back from Portland and put protections on both swaps we gave top Portland say top 8 protected.

We get 2 upside young players that haven't been great but need some run way and a decent vet (Stewart, I think Divencenzo is hurt all year), 5 or 6 picks including righting some of our Dam picks. Detriot gets a 2nd scorer for no major parts. Portland gets a big upgrade in McDaniels, out of Jrue's bad deal, and a Robinsons shooting. 

I am not a huge fan of this to be honest, Scoot and Holland still could be good players but aren't guys I would build around. There are a lot of picks but none are great except getting our Portland picks back. To be honest, I am not sure Jaden McDaniels is the guy to get them back as proposed. My guess is that a Minnesota deal would need to look like something similar to this.            B-

 

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On 5/13/2026 at 11:32 AM, Joseph Zarr said:

I don't know what is going to happen or how it is going to happen. BUT, with John Horts and Milty steering a vessel sponsored by a heavily involved Jimmy Haslam, I don't know what could go wrong. We got this!

I'm not even sure Red Auerbach in his prime could put together a .500+ team with a doofus extraordinaire owner like Jimmy Haslan being involved. 

This is old news by now, but if anyone wants to get really depressed-

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2026/05/jimmy-haslam-played-active-role-in-browns-2022-deshaun-watson-trade

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On 5/20/2026 at 7:08 AM, jay87shot said:

Minnesota gets Giannis and Caris Levert

Detriot gets Jrue Holiday and Julius Randle

Portland get Jaden McDaniels and Duncan Robinson

We get Isiah Stewart, Ron Holland, Scoot Henderson, Donte Divencenzo, 2026 Minny 1st #28, 2028 and 2032 Minny, Pistons 1st's 27 and 29, our 2029 own back from Portland and put protections on both swaps we gave top Portland say top 8 protected.

We get 2 upside young players that haven't been great but need some run way and a decent vet (Stewart, I think Divencenzo is hurt all year), 5 or 6 picks including righting some of our Dam picks. Detriot gets a 2nd scorer for no major parts. Portland gets a big upgrade in McDaniels, out of Jrue's bad deal, and a Robinsons shooting. 

I am not a huge fan of this to be honest, Scoot and Holland still could be good players but aren't guys I would build around. There are a lot of picks but none are great except getting our Portland picks back. To be honest, I am not sure Jaden McDaniels is the guy to get them back as proposed. My guess is that a Minnesota deal would need to look like something similar to this.            B-

 

Capital Yuck. No thank you whatsoever. That's a bunch of absolute 'Meh'.

Jim O stated this past week that Orlando appears to be gearing up to make another run at Giannis. What would this even look like?

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38 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

Jim O stated this past week that Orlando appears to be gearing up to make another run at Giannis. What would this even look like?

If you believe the Bucks want a superstar back in return for Giannis then it doesn’t work at all.  There is basically no starting point for this trade.  

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47 minutes ago, nate82 said:

If you believe the Bucks want a superstar back in return for Giannis then it doesn’t work at all.  There is basically no starting point for this trade.  

i don't believe that. Maybe they do? If the thinking is Banchero, then that's a Banchero plus a lot of other high end assets. The value just isn't there for a Star-for-Star type of thinking, imho. It is my opinion they should be acquiring young controllable assets - primarily via high end draft picks. The problem here is these draft picks - whatever they may be - will be selected by John Horts and Milt Newman.

 

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24 minutes ago, Joseph Zarr said:

i don't believe that. Maybe they do? If the thinking is Banchero, then that's a Banchero plus a lot of other high end assets. The value just isn't there for a Star-for-Star type of thinking, imho. It is my opinion they should be acquiring young controllable assets - primarily via high end draft picks. The problem here is these draft picks - whatever they may be - will be selected by John Horts and Milt Newman.

 

The current rumors are that the Bucks want a superstar back for Giannis in a trade and are not specifically looking for young players and picks back in a trade.  They will take the young players and picks but what they really want is a replacement for Giannis.  I don't see them trading with Orlando because of this and Banchero I don't think fits that definition of what the Bucks want in return.  

I think it is closer to the Boston proposed trades of Giannis for Brown plus some picks.

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I like the Brown and picks proposal best if we can than flip Brown. 

I wouldnt mind Franz Wagner as a centerpiece in a Giannis deal however I dont think the Magic have enough to add to that to make it work.

I also like a deal with the Heat that could involve some combination of Ware, Herro, Jacques, Wiggins, and Jovic with picks. 

I am also really routing for Wemby to destroy the Thunder the rest of the series. There could be an interesting trade with the Thunder if Wemby wrecks them and they need someone to matchup with him (Hartenstein FA). Jaylin Williams, Ajay Mitchell, and picks???

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12 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

I like the Brown and picks proposal best if we can than flip Brown.

In this scenario the Bucks would keep Brown.  They wouldn't even entertain the idea of flipping Brown.  The rumor is that the Bucks want to be competitive for next season if that means Giannis resigns then that means Giannis resigns.  If they need to trade him it will be for another superstar player to make them competitive for next season. 

From what I have seen there are no plans from the Bucks to tank or to do a full rebuild.  It is either Giannis returns or Giannis is traded for another top tier superstar.  There is no in between for the Bucks.  

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This very very much sounds like a Bucks approach. - especially now that Haslam's low acumen butt is in the primary ownership driving seat. You have one of THE best player development HC's in the NB of A. Let's not focus on filling our depleted draft war chest. Let's go for that Play-In 8th seed competitive zone. Sighs. In no world I live in would I hold on to Jaylen Brown. But, then again, the Bucks will Bucks. And absolutely never trust the Bucks. Thank the heavens for the Brewers. 

I guess, if it is indeed Brown - I mean we already assisted Boston getting Jrue - at least he is a high character young man. Extremely smart. I could in good conscience root that he takes even more steps under Jenkins. That's all I got.😅

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I just dont see a team of Brown, Rollins, Turner, and Bobby really being competitive. I am sure we could give it a year and still trade Brown later.

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3 hours ago, nate82 said:

If they need to trade him it will be for another superstar player to make them competitive for next season.

Yuck! That would of course put them in the exact same position they're in now. Actually worse, since you wouldn't be getting proportional talent back.

Maybe their ambitions changed, since I'd read that when Cleveland called, the Bucks asked for Mobley and all their available picks.

I guess I'll root for Orlando since Jonathan Isaac is my favorite non-Buck (Middleton doesn't count).

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